Labour Party Implosion

What IS the point of the Labour party?

You could ask the same about the flip flop limp dense.

PatDunne wrote:

Labour tried swinging to the left with Corbyn, the voters rejected them, Blair won three elections by going Tory Lite, not one country in the world has a true socialist society.

Corbyn had a massive swing of support in his first year, who can forget Galstonbury with all the middle class urban weekend hipsters singing his name? Loads of grass roots labour people were feeling very positive yet it was Corbyns lack of ruling ability and flip flopping of anti semitism and Brexit that cost him his job and support of the voters. Brexit is the main reason that Boris got a massive majority recently in the second vote.
Anyway I'm not advocating a socialist society I am advocating having differing priorities over representing the working man or the corporations in the two parties which will bring politics into more central ground which most people of the UK really support, it's all about balance IMO.

Reading the Sun today it seems the Labour Party are still pining for Corbyn

If the Labour party are not happy with Sir Kier than change him.

Yvette Cooper scares Johnson shitless whenever they are in contact and her holding the oaf to account at zoom meetings is a joy to watch.

Whilst I'm labour through and through (now) we need to do whatever is required to get the current filth out of power. Mind you the income tax rise thats coming to pay for the covid disaster will rattle a few who up to now on ATD think Johnsons pure incompetence and idiocy is a jolly jape

Am I the only one completely bemused by the irony of the government voted out due to “incompetence”  & replaced by Labour .
WTF do you start with that one. Out of the frying pan etc.etc.
Sorry Harve. Ain't going to happen. The common sense of the British public would see to that.

Lord Melbury wrote:

Am I the only one completely bemused by the irony  of the government voted out due to “incompetence”  & replaced by Labour .
WTF do you start with that one. Out of the frying pan etc.etc.
Sorry Harve. Ain't going to happen. The common sense of the British public would see to that.

No Milord your not the only one totally confused, I tried to imagine the likes of Corbyn, Abbot, MacDonald et al running the country during the pandemic and I had suicidal thoughts.

The thing that makes me chuckle is Harves belief that the corridors of power are really zoom rooms and twitters echo chambers. And let's not forget the housewives favourite GMB.

Zoom rooms, GMB and Twitter are for people who don't vote but like a good whinge.

Starmer just can’t help hi self can he. Such a subversive twat at every opportunity.
When questioned just now on whether he was surprised at the proposed ten year jail sentences for quarantine breakers he replied, “I’ve prosecuted many people on ten year sentences over the years & I know an empty threat when I see one”
In times like these when he’s not going to get a sniff of an election for four years you’d think the immature cnut would be trying to pull in the same direction for the sake of the country.

"Reading the Sun today" LOL

Liars to get 10 years, coming from Doris and his chums that must be an empty threat.

Labour found out via GMB....

'During the interview with Ben Shepard and Kate Garraway, Mr Ashworth admitted that he "gets things wrong all the time". Good Morning Britain viewers took to social media to share their thoughts on the Labour Party, with one Twitter user stating that watching Mr Ashworth made him "happy" that Labour are not in charge of the UK.

One Twitter user said: "It would be good to know what Mr Ashworth and the Labour Party have actually got right in recent times? After the Corbyn experiment one wonders where the Labour Party is going to go next?

"A Labour MP calling for clarity! This doesn't get any funnier. Ashworth & his cohort of the Labour Party's obfuscation machine have been trying to sit on every fence available to the point that nobody knows what they stand for as long as it is the opposite of the government."

Another tweeted: "Here we go Mr Ashworth no ideas but full of questions. It sums Labour up really."

A third wrote: "Watching Jonathan Ashworth on @GMB makes me so happy that Labour is not in charge."

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Sir smarmy squirms......

'Sir Keir Starmer repeatedly declined to be drawn on whether he was a "woke guy". Speaking to Sophy Ridge on Sky News, he responded that he was "values-driven" and dismissed labels. Ms Ridge followed up the grilling by pointing out that Labour is "still behind in the polls" despite a pandemic health crisis and the worst economic hit since the early 1700s.

The Sky News host said: "Lisa Nandy said in an interview that Joe Biden was a woke guy whose victory was a source of hope for Labour. Are you a woke guy?"

Sir Keir responded: "What I think about Joe Biden is the values that drove his campaign, I admire his values, I am a values-led guy."

Ms Ridge followed up: "But, is that a woke guy?"

The Labour leader continued to doge the question, saying: "I am values driven.

"I am utterly determined we can do something to tackle inequality, tackle insecurity and we can do that sooner than we think if we pull together as a party, pull together as a movement."

Ms Ridge hit back: "You can say you can turn it around but we have had 160,000 deaths related to Covid, the worst economic hit since the early 1700s.

"And yet you are still behind the polls."

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More bad news for smarmy.....

'SIR KEIR STARMER faced an awkward grilling on ITV, as he reacted to former Labour voters' brutal opinions on his leadership record.

Sir Keir Starmer suffered an embarrassing interview moment on ITV this week, after he was shown former Labour voters' brutal opinions of his leadership record. Sir Keir tried to relaunch his party leadership this week with a speech outlining his response to a post-pandemic Britain. However, almost a year after being elected leader of the Labour Party, he has faced stalling poll numbers and has fallen behind the Conservatives among voters.

ITV Political Correspondent Daniel Hewitt confronted the Labour leader on the embarrassing poll numbers, asking: "Why do you think you are behind the Conservatives in the opinion polls?"

When Sir Keir cited the general election result in November 2019, Mr Hewitt fired back: "So it's all Jeremy Corbyn's fault that you're behind?"

The Labour leader did not deny he was blaming Jeremy Corbyn, simply adding: "We have a lot of work to do.

"As leader of the Labour Party now, it is my duty to make that argument about where we go next. "

In one awkward exchange, the Labour leader was played a video showing people in the former Labour seat of Leigh commenting on his leadership so far.

All of the reviews were scathing, with one person suggesting Manchester Mayor Andy Burnham would be a better leader and another saying he would be voting Tory again in the next election.

One former Labour voter said: "He is quite a weak personality. I don't think he is as strong as he made out to be in his beliefs."

Another added: "I'm not a fan of how he seems to put a lot of negativity across, but doesn't have any solutions."

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Basically he is a feckin clueless flip flopper.

Much the same as the incompetent Johnson then!

And with better behaved hair!

harvetheslayer wrote:

Whilst I'm labour through and through (now) we need to do whatever is required to get the current filth out of power.

Ah, filth! I only recently brought up the fact that Labour luvvie Alistair Campbell penned "sexed up" porno stories for Forum Magazine and "sexed up" dossiers which gave Tony Blair the impetus to attack Iraq even though there was never any evidence that Saddam possessed weapons of mass destruction.

Still, the mention of "filth" jogged my memory about this little story...

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harvetheslayer wrote:

Yvette Cooper scares Johnson shitless whenever they are in contact and her holding the oaf to account at zoom meetings is a joy to watch.

Whilst I'm labour through and through (now) we need to do whatever is required to get the current filth out of power.

Ms Cooper and hubby Ed Balls were hardly the paragons of virtue...

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Bad news for smarmy and his ATD poster boy.....

'By contrast, the Tories only have a four-point lead with middle-class voters. Labour was founded to provide political representation to the working-class making the result an embarrassment for Sir Keir Starmer.

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By contrast, the Tories only have a four-point lead with middle-class voters. Labour was founded to provide political representation to the working-class making the result an embarrassment for Sir Keir Starmer.

The YouGov survey, conducted for The Times, found 45 percent of the public would vote Conservative in a general election versus 32 percent for Labour.

However, the result becomes even more dramatic when social class is factored in.

According to the survey 52 percent of C2DE voters, which covers the working-class and those not working, would back the Tories with only 27 percent picking Labour.

However amongst ABC1, or middle-class, voters Labour has 36 percent support with the Conservatives only just ahead on 40 percent.

The survey shows how dramatic the class realignment in British politics has been over the past few years, driven in part by Brexit.

Academic and author Matt Goodwin tweeted: "A 25-point lead for Conservatives among working-class.

"Same old problem for Labour as 2019. 71 percent of Leavers rally round Conservatives, 47 percent Remainers rally around Labour.

"Basic problem for Labour is geography. Votes stacked high in places where it doesn't need them - little evidence it is breaking through in places where it needs them."

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Those damned Northern former red wall voters simply keep insisting on voting the 'wrong' way, they must be racist and thick, and if we call them racist and thick loud enough they will flock back to Labour, and start eating organic fruits and vegetables, giving their children nice names, driving decent cars and stop supporting that awful football.

Academic and author Matt Goodwin tweeted: "A 25-point lead for Conservatives among working-class.


Read that and weep you champagne socialists happy to march behind a Miners Union banner once a year.

Starmer really has to step us his game or stand down and quickly at that

When he was asked about Hancocks High Court guilty decision over contracts he actually stated no need for him to resign..... Johnson caught lying to the Commons (again) over same contracts and another guilty ruling in Court care of Jo Maugham yesterday but yet again no demands for Johnson to stand down

I know another boardie here thinks Starmer is a closet Tory and I'm beginning to think there is some merit to it

Graiser wrote:

Reading the Sun today it seems the Labour Party are still pining for Corbyn

How I would welcome his return as Labour's head honcho. I suspect the decent folk on these fair Islands would react very much as before by turning away from his brand of politics. It seems his "fame" has now spread to Canada...

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harvetheslayer wrote:

Starmer really has to step us his game or stand down and quickly at that

When he was asked about Hancocks High Court guilty decision over contracts he actually stated no need for him to resign..... Johnson caught lying to the Commons (again) over same contracts and another guilty ruling in Court care of Jo Maugham yesterday but yet again no demands for Johnson to stand down

I know another boardie here thinks Starmer is a closet Tory and I'm beginning to think there is some merit to it

Wakey Wakey.

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harvetheslayer wrote:

Starmer really has to step us his game or stand down and quickly at that.

After all he's recently had to say about lobbyists he might well start with this bit of Labour totty....


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