Bye bye Sheridan (Confirmed)

Neil Warnock as owner?

Greenskin wrote:

X Isle wrote:

Good point, especially if their not going to relocate to Plymouth. We need a full time, locally based manager.

Defends Sheridan [living in Leeds since his appointment] for some time. Results don't go as absurdly anticipated and section of fanbase turns against Sheridan. Turns with the wolf pack on the manager. Now manager must be locally based. Says it all really.

I think Shezza has been to Home Park far more times than Xisle! Some of the Lame Brains want old man Warnock, thats a no from me.. Or No track record at all but he's local Wotton..wtf! Stick with the only Proffessinal at Homepark John Sheridan, while the Dreadful no ambition Brent Regime cling on, there's no one better.

X Isle wrote:

Good point, especially if their not going to relocate to Plymouth. We need a full time, locally based manager.

I'm shocked, shorely deliberate.

X Isle wrote:

Good point, especially if their not going to relocate to Plymouth. We need a full time, locally based manager.

Yet Leeds is roughly the same travel time as London yet he still manages to get here more than you!

How can a professional football manager do a job this full on a part time basis lol and thats for all football league clubs not just argyle. This part time crap is nothing more than a pasoti fact which means its an outright lie becasue he goes home after away games and lets his coaching team take training on a monday as they are paid to do.

Continual motorway or rail travelling every week will surely knock the edge off anyones performance.

I understand that childrens education needs to be routed in consistency and that always seems to be a reason for not uprooting family and home.

So do you go for older managers who'd kids have fled the nest and WILL move to the club area to be available for nine months of the year.....this is more relevant to clubs like PAFC who are on the periphery of the main population areas allowing shorter journey times, and of course not so far to travel means less necessity to move.

Now if Plymouth had an Airport that could cut travelling times down.

zyph wrote:

Continual motorway or rail travelling every week will surely knock the edge off anyones performance.

I understand that childrens education needs to be routed in consistency and that always seems to be a reason for not uprooting family and home.

So do you go for older managers who'd kids have fled the nest and WILL move to the club area to be available for nine months of the year.....this is more relevant to clubs like PAFC who are on the periphery of the main population areas allowing shorter journey times, and of course not so far to travel means less necessity to move.

Now if Plymouth had an Airport that could cut travelling times down.

It really doesnt matter where someone lives aslong as they do the job required. No manager or player moving to Plymouth is going to make them do any better in the role or worse.

Greenskin wrote:

X Isle wrote:

Good point, especially if their not going to relocate to Plymouth. We need a full time, locally based manager.

Defends Sheridan [living in Leeds since his appointment] for some time. Results don't go as absurdly anticipated and section of fanbase turns against Sheridan. Turns with the wolf pack on the manager. Now manager must be locally based. Says it all really.

Does say it all even read on Pashitty a few calling for (local boy Tisdale to come and take over) there really is no imagination at this club is there from top to bottom - Bring back Luggy I say - oh too late gone to Yeovil.

When Sheridan did stay here full time for the play offs we were total embarrassingly crap.
The further he stays away from the club the better IMO

Angry wrote:

X Isle wrote:

Good point, especially if their not going to relocate to Plymouth. We need a full time, locally based manager.

Yet Leeds is roughly the same travel time as London yet he still manages to get here more than you!

How can a professional football manager do a job this full on a part time basis lol and thats for all football league clubs not just argyle. This part time crap is nothing more than a pasoti fact which means its an outright lie becasue he goes home after away games and lets his coaching team take training on a monday as they are paid to do.

Some fans wouldn't mind a manager that likes the place enough to live here and be among his players.

When Holloway was here his enthusiasm, false and clichéd or not, was infectious. It gave fans and the team a real feel good factor. Ollie signed players like Ebanks-Blake, Hayles, Seip, Halmosi and Timar to 'little old Plymouth'. Sheridan is the opposite end of the scale. Doesn't want to live here, dour demeanour, openly swears at players when they are struggling and gives them abuse. Is he popular in the dressing room? Does not being with the team from matchdays to Tuesday imply a certain detachment and resentment from his 'troops'?

The team very clearly had visibly poor team spirit against Ainsworth's Wycombe. They were chalk and cheese in their management styles, and it wasn't Argyle's '7th - 9th' placed budget that came out on top against Wycombe's 21st-24th budget. Something else made the difference.

To me it is part of a wider package and I just don't get much confidence out of Sheridan's command of Argyle footballing operation. Not living in Plymouth is a big part of it. You can scoff all you like that it has no impact. But Argyle at times looked like the best side in the division last season, other times we looked awful and were outplayed by average sides. Delve into the reasons for the inconsistency and I think some confidence, stability and ability from the top wouldn't have harmed our promotion chances.

As we discuss this, Sheridan is likely courting job offers in the north. Some people don't mind our players and management being on the merry go round, but it doesn't bode well for the club next season at all. How can you expect the players to show commitment and sign, and play for the shirt 100%, when the manager isn't overly arsed about the club and the place himself? And that clearly is the case.

ejh wrote:

Angry wrote:

X Isle wrote:

Good point, especially if their not going to relocate to Plymouth. We need a full time, locally based manager.

Yet Leeds is roughly the same travel time as London yet he still manages to get here more than you!

How can a professional football manager do a job this full on a part time basis lol and thats for all football league clubs not just argyle. This part time crap is nothing more than a pasoti fact which means its an outright lie becasue he goes home after away games and lets his coaching team take training on a monday as they are paid to do.

Some fans wouldn't mind a manager that likes the place enough to live here and be among his players.

When Holloway was here his enthusiasm, false and clichéd or not, was infectious. It gave fans and the team a real feel good factor. Ollie signed players like Ebanks-Blake, Hayles, Seip, Halmosi and Timar to 'little old Plymouth'. Sheridan is the opposite end of the scale. Doesn't want to live here, dour demeanour, openly swears at players when they are struggling and gives them abuse. Is he popular in the dressing room? Does not being with the team from matchdays to Tuesday imply a certain detachment and resentment from his 'troops'?

The team very clearly had visibly poor team spirit against Ainsworth's Wycombe. They were chalk and cheese in their management styles, and it wasn't Argyle's '7th - 9th' placed budget that came out on top against Wycombe's 21st-24th budget. Something else made the difference.

To me it is part of a wider package and I just don't get much confidence out of Sheridan's command of Argyle footballing operation. Not living in Plymouth is a big part of it. You can scoff all you like that it has no impact. But Argyle at times looked like the best side in the division last season, other times we looked awful and were outplayed by average sides. Delve into the reasons for the inconsistency and I think some confidence, stability and ability from the top wouldn't have harmed our promotion chances.

As we discuss this, Sheridan is likely courting job offers in the north. Some people don't mind our players and management being on the merry go round, but it doesn't bode well for the club next season at all. How can you expect the players to show commitment and sign, and play for the shirt 100%, when the manager isn't overly arsed about the club and the place himself? And that clearly is the case.

Some fans need to realise with the climate of football in the state its in with hardly any manger lasting 18 months in any job no one unless they have a monster contract and guaranteed stability for a number of years is going to uproot a family to a new area let alone from the north. Same with players they will always choose to commute if they can.

It makes not a jot of difference on how they perform the job in question whether they live next door to home park or live in zimbabwe and commute. It wouldnt even be an issue if sheridan was popular in the fanbase aswell you know.

you mention, Ebanks-Blake, Hayles, Seip, Halmosi and Timar signing for 'little old Plymouth becasue ollie lived in plymouth being a factor. All of those players left the club very quickly when Sturrock became manager and he lived in plymouth too so it makes no sense. THey had release clauses in their contracts and where prepared to come here on inflated wages the club couldnt afford with the promise they could go if a bigger club triggered a release clause or indeed bidded for them... WIth the exception of Seip who decided to stay because the lynx bottle that was passed around the locker room was too good.

ejh wrote:

Angry wrote:

X Isle wrote:

Good point, especially if their not going to relocate to Plymouth. We need a full time, locally based manager.

Yet Leeds is roughly the same travel time as London yet he still manages to get here more than you!

How can a professional football manager do a job this full on a part time basis lol and thats for all football league clubs not just argyle. This part time crap is nothing more than a pasoti fact which means its an outright lie becasue he goes home after away games and lets his coaching team take training on a monday as they are paid to do.

Some fans wouldn't mind a manager that likes the place enough to live here and be among his players.

When Holloway was here his enthusiasm, false and clichéd or not, was infectious. It gave fans and the team a real feel good factor. Ollie signed players like Ebanks-Blake, Hayles, Seip, Halmosi and Timar to 'little old Plymouth'. Sheridan is the opposite end of the scale. Doesn't want to live here, dour demeanour, openly swears at players when they are struggling and gives them abuse. Is he popular in the dressing room? Does not being with the team from matchdays to Tuesday imply a certain detachment and resentment from his 'troops'?

The team very clearly had visibly poor team spirit against Ainsworth's Wycombe. They were chalk and cheese in their management styles, and it wasn't Argyle's '7th - 9th' placed budget that came out on top against Wycombe's 21st-24th budget. Something else made the difference.

To me it is part of a wider package and I just don't get much confidence out of Sheridan's command of Argyle footballing operation. Not living in Plymouth is a big part of it. You can scoff all you like that it has no impact. But Argyle at times looked like the best side in the division last season, other times we looked awful and were outplayed by average sides. Delve into the reasons for the inconsistency and I think some confidence, stability and ability from the top wouldn't have harmed our promotion chances.

As we discuss this, Sheridan is likely courting job offers in the north. Some people don't mind our players and management being on the merry go round, but it doesn't bode well for the club next season at all. How can you expect the players to show commitment and sign, and play for the shirt 100%, when the manager isn't overly arsed about the club and the place himself? And that clearly is the case.

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Greenskin wrote:

ejh wrote:

Angry wrote:

X Isle wrote:

Good point, especially if their not going to relocate to Plymouth. We need a full time, locally based manager.

Yet Leeds is roughly the same travel time as London yet he still manages to get here more than you!

How can a professional football manager do a job this full on a part time basis lol and thats for all football league clubs not just argyle. This part time crap is nothing more than a pasoti fact which means its an outright lie becasue he goes home after away games and lets his coaching team take training on a monday as they are paid to do.

Some fans wouldn't mind a manager that likes the place enough to live here and be among his players.

When Holloway was here his enthusiasm, false and clichéd or not, was infectious. It gave fans and the team a real feel good factor. Ollie signed players like Ebanks-Blake, Hayles, Seip, Halmosi and Timar to 'little old Plymouth'. Sheridan is the opposite end of the scale. Doesn't want to live here, dour demeanour, openly swears at players when they are struggling and gives them abuse. Is he popular in the dressing room? Does not being with the team from matchdays to Tuesday imply a certain detachment and resentment from his 'troops'?

The team very clearly had visibly poor team spirit against Ainsworth's Wycombe. They were chalk and cheese in their management styles, and it wasn't Argyle's '7th - 9th' placed budget that came out on top against Wycombe's 21st-24th budget. Something else made the difference.

To me it is part of a wider package and I just don't get much confidence out of Sheridan's command of Argyle footballing operation. Not living in Plymouth is a big part of it. You can scoff all you like that it has no impact. But Argyle at times looked like the best side in the division last season, other times we looked awful and were outplayed by average sides. Delve into the reasons for the inconsistency and I think some confidence, stability and ability from the top wouldn't have harmed our promotion chances.

As we discuss this, Sheridan is likely courting job offers in the north. Some people don't mind our players and management being on the merry go round, but it doesn't bode well for the club next season at all. How can you expect the players to show commitment and sign, and play for the shirt 100%, when the manager isn't overly arsed about the club and the place himself? And that clearly is the case.

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Angry wrote:

Greenskin wrote:

ejh wrote:

Angry wrote:

X Isle wrote:

Good point, especially if their not going to relocate to Plymouth. We need a full time, locally based manager.

Yet Leeds is roughly the same travel time as London yet he still manages to get here more than you!

How can a professional football manager do a job this full on a part time basis lol and thats for all football league clubs not just argyle. This part time crap is nothing more than a pasoti fact which means its an outright lie becasue he goes home after away games and lets his coaching team take training on a monday as they are paid to do.

Some fans wouldn't mind a manager that likes the place enough to live here and be among his players.

When Holloway was here his enthusiasm, false and clichéd or not, was infectious. It gave fans and the team a real feel good factor. Ollie signed players like Ebanks-Blake, Hayles, Seip, Halmosi and Timar to 'little old Plymouth'. Sheridan is the opposite end of the scale. Doesn't want to live here, dour demeanour, openly swears at players when they are struggling and gives them abuse. Is he popular in the dressing room? Does not being with the team from matchdays to Tuesday imply a certain detachment and resentment from his 'troops'?

The team very clearly had visibly poor team spirit against Ainsworth's Wycombe. They were chalk and cheese in their management styles, and it wasn't Argyle's '7th - 9th' placed budget that came out on top against Wycombe's 21st-24th budget. Something else made the difference.

To me it is part of a wider package and I just don't get much confidence out of Sheridan's command of Argyle footballing operation. Not living in Plymouth is a big part of it. You can scoff all you like that it has no impact. But Argyle at times looked like the best side in the division last season, other times we looked awful and were outplayed by average sides. Delve into the reasons for the inconsistency and I think some confidence, stability and ability from the top wouldn't have harmed our promotion chances.

As we discuss this, Sheridan is likely courting job offers in the north. Some people don't mind our players and management being on the merry go round, but it doesn't bode well for the club next season at all. How can you expect the players to show commitment and sign, and play for the shirt 100%, when the manager isn't overly arsed about the club and the place himself? And that clearly is the case.

Football manager swears at players shock!

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I like yours Angry but this fella wins hands fackin dain

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ejh wrote:

Angry wrote:

X Isle wrote:

Good point, especially if their not going to relocate to Plymouth. We need a full time, locally based manager.

Yet Leeds is roughly the same travel time as London yet he still manages to get here more than you!

How can a professional football manager do a job this full on a part time basis lol and thats for all football league clubs not just argyle. This part time crap is nothing more than a pasoti fact which means its an outright lie becasue he goes home after away games and lets his coaching team take training on a monday as they are paid to do.

Some fans wouldn't mind a manager that likes the place enough to live here and be among his players.

When Holloway was here his enthusiasm, false and clichéd or not, was infectious. It gave fans and the team a real feel good factor. Ollie signed players like Ebanks-Blake, Hayles, Seip, Halmosi and Timar to 'little old Plymouth'. Sheridan is the opposite end of the scale. Doesn't want to live here, dour demeanour, openly swears at players when they are struggling and gives them abuse. Is he popular in the dressing room? Does not being with the team from matchdays to Tuesday imply a certain detachment and resentment from his 'troops'?

The team very clearly had visibly poor team spirit against Ainsworth's Wycombe. They were chalk and cheese in their management styles, and it wasn't Argyle's '7th - 9th' placed budget that came out on top against Wycombe's 21st-24th budget. Something else made the difference.

To me it is part of a wider package and I just don't get much confidence out of Sheridan's command of Argyle footballing operation. Not living in Plymouth is a big part of it. You can scoff all you like that it has no impact. But Argyle at times looked like the best side in the division last season, other times we looked awful and were outplayed by average sides. Delve into the reasons for the inconsistency and I think some confidence, stability and ability from the top wouldn't have harmed our promotion chances.

As we discuss this, Sheridan is likely courting job offers in the north. Some people don't mind our players and management being on the merry go round, but it doesn't bode well for the club next season at all. How can you expect the players to show commitment and sign, and play for the shirt 100%, when the manager isn't overly arsed about the club and the place himself? And that clearly is the case.

According to Guy blockhead Branston, yes he is, and I can't see why he'd lie considering Shez showed him the door at HP.

akagreengull wrote:

Greenskin wrote:

X Isle wrote:

Good point, especially if their not going to relocate to Plymouth. We need a full time, locally based manager.

Defends Sheridan [living in Leeds since his appointment] for some time. Results don't go as absurdly anticipated and section of fanbase turns against Sheridan. Turns with the wolf pack on the manager. Now manager must be locally based. Says it all really.

Does say it all even read on Pashitty a few calling for (local boy Tisdale to come and take over) there really is no imagination at this club is there from top to bottom - Bring back Luggy I say - oh too late gone to Yeovil.

Tisdale lives in Bath.

Les Miserable wrote:

ejh wrote:

Angry wrote:

X Isle wrote:

Good point, especially if their not going to relocate to Plymouth. We need a full time, locally based manager.

Yet Leeds is roughly the same travel time as London yet he still manages to get here more than you!

How can a professional football manager do a job this full on a part time basis lol and thats for all football league clubs not just argyle. This part time crap is nothing more than a pasoti fact which means its an outright lie becasue he goes home after away games and lets his coaching team take training on a monday as they are paid to do.

Some fans wouldn't mind a manager that likes the place enough to live here and be among his players.

When Holloway was here his enthusiasm, false and clichéd or not, was infectious. It gave fans and the team a real feel good factor. Ollie signed players like Ebanks-Blake, Hayles, Seip, Halmosi and Timar to 'little old Plymouth'. Sheridan is the opposite end of the scale. Doesn't want to live here, dour demeanour, openly swears at players when they are struggling and gives them abuse. Is he popular in the dressing room? Does not being with the team from matchdays to Tuesday imply a certain detachment and resentment from his 'troops'?

The team very clearly had visibly poor team spirit against Ainsworth's Wycombe. They were chalk and cheese in their management styles, and it wasn't Argyle's '7th - 9th' placed budget that came out on top against Wycombe's 21st-24th budget. Something else made the difference.

To me it is part of a wider package and I just don't get much confidence out of Sheridan's command of Argyle footballing operation. Not living in Plymouth is a big part of it. You can scoff all you like that it has no impact. But Argyle at times looked like the best side in the division last season, other times we looked awful and were outplayed by average sides. Delve into the reasons for the inconsistency and I think some confidence, stability and ability from the top wouldn't have harmed our promotion chances.

As we discuss this, Sheridan is likely courting job offers in the north. Some people don't mind our players and management being on the merry go round, but it doesn't bode well for the club next season at all. How can you expect the players to show commitment and sign, and play for the shirt 100%, when the manager isn't overly arsed about the club and the place himself? And that clearly is the case.

According to Guy blockhead Branston, yes he is, and I can't see why he'd lie considering Shez showed him the door at HP.

Ps... being "popular"  can backfire and players can see it as a weakness, many managers over the years have been successful by using the fear based method, not the popularity one. I'm not saying one method is better than the other, I have no idea, maybe a mixture of the two but people like Clough and Ferguson weren't particularly worried about their popularity.

Depends on who you ask,

Before going any further I have no idea whatsoever as to what Sheridan's domestic arrangements are.

Just how are we supposed to recruit a manager? If we are going to insist that he he lives permanently down here then we have to assume that his wife and kids are going to come down too. There may well be understandable reluctance to get the kids to move schools and Mrs Manager might have a job too good to give up. Would we then not select the best candidate from the recruitment process on this basis?

And how would we enforce it if Mr Manager inferred there'd be no problem and that he'd start house-hunting as soon as he was offered the job but 6 months later he hadn't found somewhere suitable and wife & kids were still elsewhere?

There's nowhere to go with this line of thinking, is there? It's just unworkable.

If we want the best man for the job we then have to allow him to sort all of this out as he sees fit and if we don't then we give up on getting the best man for the job and insist on somebody who lives locally then we are reduced to ex-players like Wotton, who seems to be almost universally unpopular for reasons I can't quite fathom, or poaching managers off Plymouth Parkway or whoever.

Speaking of which: Nicky Marker.

Pretty close to being a club legend, lives in Ivybridge (is that close enough to qualify or would he have to move?), he's all badged-up, has experience from coaching at the Ivies for years, I think, and must be well-connected in the football world following his time at Blackburn. However you cut it he's proper football.

Otherwise we have to stick to older managers whose kids have grown up. Which means if he is any good we couldn't afford him or afford to keep him if he did come down here.

I think this whole residence issue is a red herring but in many ways Sheridan has brought it on himself by being so obviously reluctant to engage with the club's fans. I wonder if he's been stitched-up in some way in the past?

Greenskin wrote:

ejh wrote:

Angry wrote:

X Isle wrote:

Good point, especially if their not going to relocate to Plymouth. We need a full time, locally based manager.

Yet Leeds is roughly the same travel time as London yet he still manages to get here more than you!

How can a professional football manager do a job this full on a part time basis lol and thats for all football league clubs not just argyle. This part time crap is nothing more than a pasoti fact which means its an outright lie becasue he goes home after away games and lets his coaching team take training on a monday as they are paid to do.

Some fans wouldn't mind a manager that likes the place enough to live here and be among his players.

When Holloway was here his enthusiasm, false and clichéd or not, was infectious. It gave fans and the team a real feel good factor. Ollie signed players like Ebanks-Blake, Hayles, Seip, Halmosi and Timar to 'little old Plymouth'. Sheridan is the opposite end of the scale. Doesn't want to live here, dour demeanour, openly swears at players when they are struggling and gives them abuse. Is he popular in the dressing room? Does not being with the team from matchdays to Tuesday imply a certain detachment and resentment from his 'troops'?

The team very clearly had visibly poor team spirit against Ainsworth's Wycombe. They were chalk and cheese in their management styles, and it wasn't Argyle's '7th - 9th' placed budget that came out on top against Wycombe's 21st-24th budget. Something else made the difference.

To me it is part of a wider package and I just don't get much confidence out of Sheridan's command of Argyle footballing operation. Not living in Plymouth is a big part of it. You can scoff all you like that it has no impact. But Argyle at times looked like the best side in the division last season, other times we looked awful and were outplayed by average sides. Delve into the reasons for the inconsistency and I think some confidence, stability and ability from the top wouldn't have harmed our promotion chances.

As we discuss this, Sheridan is likely courting job offers in the north. Some people don't mind our players and management being on the merry go round, but it doesn't bode well for the club next season at all. How can you expect the players to show commitment and sign, and play for the shirt 100%, when the manager isn't overly arsed about the club and the place himself? And that clearly is the case.

Football manager swears at players shock!

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Please don't confuse my gripe with Sheridan as being disturbed by his use of profanity.

It is more concern with the effect of the regular negative, belittling, arms folded foul mouthed sniping of his own team (in earshot of subs and even supporters - Cobi has reported it many times for instance).

I can't honestly see what angrily calling a player a 'f***ing c***' (in front of others but behind the player's back) because he missed a header is meant to achieve. That one was picked up by sky cameras. And it was at Banton, one of the only players making him look like he had a clue in the playoff games!

If my manager at work, or of my amateur football sides ever spoke about me like that to others, I would think he is a tosser and be FAR less arsed about trying for him than I was before. If I overheard him say it about a colleague or friend I knew was trying their hardest, I would feel the same. Any subsequent effort would be for my teammates and myself more than him.

Getting the players in the dressing room and giving them a group/individual hairdryer dressing down is an altogether different prospect. It is not done in a nasty, cowardly or horrible manner. It is confronting a group and demanding answers and responsibility out of them. Half time bollockings might connect, provoke a burst of adrenaline and get a reaction - I can see the purpose and the strategy in that management.

In Sheridan I just see and angry frustrated man stressed out because he has no real command of his team when in a losing positionand rejecting/disowning and distancing himself from them when they aren't winning. No surprises from me that Shez has not turned a match around from a losing position for years given his negative methods and man management.

Hence the questions about the team spirit, and are the players really playing for Shez?

I have mentioned it before but I am envious of Ainsworth at Wycombe having seen him and his team - a small club on a small budget, and Ainsworth has a poorly paid squad of players trying their absolute hardest. Even in defeat Ainsworth is bursting with pride at the way they played for him. Seems like the kind of manager a group of players would be proud to try for, much more than Sheridan's negative style.

ejh wrote:

Greenskin wrote:

ejh wrote:

Angry wrote:

X Isle wrote:

Good point, especially if their not going to relocate to Plymouth. We need a full time, locally based manager.

Yet Leeds is roughly the same travel time as London yet he still manages to get here more than you!

How can a professional football manager do a job this full on a part time basis lol and thats for all football league clubs not just argyle. This part time crap is nothing more than a pasoti fact which means its an outright lie becasue he goes home after away games and lets his coaching team take training on a monday as they are paid to do.

Some fans wouldn't mind a manager that likes the place enough to live here and be among his players.

When Holloway was here his enthusiasm, false and clichéd or not, was infectious. It gave fans and the team a real feel good factor. Ollie signed players like Ebanks-Blake, Hayles, Seip, Halmosi and Timar to 'little old Plymouth'. Sheridan is the opposite end of the scale. Doesn't want to live here, dour demeanour, openly swears at players when they are struggling and gives them abuse. Is he popular in the dressing room? Does not being with the team from matchdays to Tuesday imply a certain detachment and resentment from his 'troops'?

The team very clearly had visibly poor team spirit against Ainsworth's Wycombe. They were chalk and cheese in their management styles, and it wasn't Argyle's '7th - 9th' placed budget that came out on top against Wycombe's 21st-24th budget. Something else made the difference.

To me it is part of a wider package and I just don't get much confidence out of Sheridan's command of Argyle footballing operation. Not living in Plymouth is a big part of it. You can scoff all you like that it has no impact. But Argyle at times looked like the best side in the division last season, other times we looked awful and were outplayed by average sides. Delve into the reasons for the inconsistency and I think some confidence, stability and ability from the top wouldn't have harmed our promotion chances.

As we discuss this, Sheridan is likely courting job offers in the north. Some people don't mind our players and management being on the merry go round, but it doesn't bode well for the club next season at all. How can you expect the players to show commitment and sign, and play for the shirt 100%, when the manager isn't overly arsed about the club and the place himself? And that clearly is the case.

Football manager swears at players shock!

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Please don't confuse my gripe with Sheridan as being disturbed by his use of profanity.

It is more concern with the effect of the regular negative, belittling, arms folded foul mouthed sniping of his own team (in earshot of subs and even supporters - Cobi has reported it many times for instance).

I can't honestly see what angrily calling a player a 'f***ing c***' (in front of others but behind the player's back) because he missed a header is meant to achieve. That one was picked up by sky cameras. And it was at Banton, one of the only players making him look like he had a clue in the playoff games!

If my manager at work, or of my amateur football sides ever spoke about me like that to others, I would think he is a tosser and be FAR less arsed about trying for him than I was before. If I overheard him say it about a colleague or friend I knew was trying their hardest, I would feel the same. Any subsequent effort would be for my teammates and myself more than him.

Getting the players in the dressing room and giving them a group/individual hairdryer dressing down is an altogether different prospect. It is not done in a nasty, cowardly or horrible manner. It is confronting a group and demanding answers and responsibility out of them. Half time bollockings might connect, provoke a burst of adrenaline and get a reaction - I can see the purpose and the strategy in that management.

In Sheridan I just see and angry frustrated man stressed out because he has no real command of his team when in a losing positionand rejecting/disowning and distancing himself from them when they aren't winning. No surprises from me that Shez has not turned a match around from a losing position for years given his negative methods and man management.

Hence the questions about the team spirit, and are the players really playing for Shez?

I have mentioned it before but I am envious of Ainsworth at Wycombe having seen him and his team - a small club on a small budget, and Ainsworth has a poorly paid squad of players trying their absolute hardest. Even in defeat Ainsworth is bursting with pride at the way they played for him. Seems like the kind of manager a group of players would be proud to try for, much more than Sheridan's negative style.

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X Isle wrote:

Good point, especially if their not going to relocate to Plymouth. We need a full time, locally based manager.

Yet Leeds is roughly the same travel time as London yet he still manages to get here more than you!

How can a professional football manager do a job this full on a part time basis lol and thats for all football league clubs not just argyle. This part time crap is nothing more than a pasoti fact which means its an outright lie becasue he goes home after away games and lets his coaching team take training on a monday as they are paid to do.

Some fans wouldn't mind a manager that likes the place enough to live here and be among his players.

When Holloway was here his enthusiasm, false and clichéd or not, was infectious. It gave fans and the team a real feel good factor. Ollie signed players like Ebanks-Blake, Hayles, Seip, Halmosi and Timar to 'little old Plymouth'. Sheridan is the opposite end of the scale. Doesn't want to live here, dour demeanour, openly swears at players when they are struggling and gives them abuse. Is he popular in the dressing room? Does not being with the team from matchdays to Tuesday imply a certain detachment and resentment from his 'troops'?

The team very clearly had visibly poor team spirit against Ainsworth's Wycombe. They were chalk and cheese in their management styles, and it wasn't Argyle's '7th - 9th' placed budget that came out on top against Wycombe's 21st-24th budget. Something else made the difference.

To me it is part of a wider package and I just don't get much confidence out of Sheridan's command of Argyle footballing operation. Not living in Plymouth is a big part of it. You can scoff all you like that it has no impact. But Argyle at times looked like the best side in the division last season, other times we looked awful and were outplayed by average sides. Delve into the reasons for the inconsistency and I think some confidence, stability and ability from the top wouldn't have harmed our promotion chances.

As we discuss this, Sheridan is likely courting job offers in the north. Some people don't mind our players and management being on the merry go round, but it doesn't bode well for the club next season at all. How can you expect the players to show commitment and sign, and play for the shirt 100%, when the manager isn't overly arsed about the club and the place himself? And that clearly is the case.

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Please don't confuse my gripe with Sheridan as being disturbed by his use of profanity.

It is more concern with the effect of the regular negative, belittling, arms folded foul mouthed sniping of his own team (in earshot of subs and even supporters - Cobi has reported it many times for instance).

I can't honestly see what angrily calling a player a 'f***ing c***' (in front of others but behind the player's back) because he missed a header is meant to achieve. That one was picked up by sky cameras. And it was at Banton, one of the only players making him look like he had a clue in the playoff games!

If my manager at work, or of my amateur football sides ever spoke about me like that to others, I would think he is a tosser and be FAR less arsed about trying for him than I was before. If I overheard him say it about a colleague or friend I knew was trying their hardest, I would feel the same. Any subsequent effort would be for my teammates and myself more than him.

Getting the players in the dressing room and giving them a group/individual hairdryer dressing down is an altogether different prospect. It is not done in a nasty, cowardly or horrible manner. It is confronting a group and demanding answers and responsibility out of them. Half time bollockings might connect, provoke a burst of adrenaline and get a reaction - I can see the purpose and the strategy in that management.

In Sheridan I just see and angry frustrated man stressed out because he has no real command of his team when in a losing positionand rejecting/disowning and distancing himself from them when they aren't winning. No surprises from me that Shez has not turned a match around from a losing position for years given his negative methods and man management.

Hence the questions about the team spirit, and are the players really playing for Shez?

I have mentioned it before but I am envious of Ainsworth at Wycombe having seen him and his team - a small club on a small budget, and Ainsworth has a poorly paid squad of players trying their absolute hardest. Even in defeat Ainsworth is bursting with pride at the way they played for him. Seems like the kind of manager a group of players would be proud to try for, much more than Sheridan's negative style.

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Why are we waiting, why are we waiting, why are we waiting, oh why do we wait.

As this drags on, other League Two clubs make headway in agreeing deals.

At this rate we will be scrapping the bottom of the barrel for new signings and if the 2015-16 season turns out to be utter crap, then i will blame James Brent.

I wonder where Sheridan and family are right now, probably sat on a Northern seaside beach, eating plenty of ice-cream and fish and chips.

I can just imagine Sheridan now, knotted hanky on his head and trousers rolled up to the knees, wearing a kiss me quick hat as he goes for a paddle in the sea..

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Why are we waiting, why are waiting, why are we waiting, oh why do we wait.

As this drags on, other League Two clubs make headway in the transfer market.

At this rate we will be scrapping the bottom of the barrel for new signings and if the 2015-16 season turns out to be utter crap, then i will blame James Brent.

It's the Brent way - thought you realised that.

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Why are we waiting, why are waiting, why are we waiting, oh why do we wait.

As this drags on, other League Two clubs make headway in the transfer market.

At this rate we will be scrapping the bottom of the barrel for new signings and if the 2015-16 season turns out to be utter crap, then i will blame James Brent.

Only if he takes till mid june. Most players are away on holidays till then. Sheridan is most probably on his as we speak. I expect him to say im staying/going by D=Day.