The HHP hotel

I see that Newell has a created a pasoti poll (we all know how reliable they are), anyway, the poll is "If we had a 25k capacity stadium would you still object to the hotel or cinema".

You know where this is going don't you!

Yeah but your view is only valid if you live in Muff.

nothing like a corrupt forum owner hosting a rigged poll is there lol

Yeah, saw that.
What exactly is this frankly disturbing obsession with bad-mouthing supporters who happen to live away from Plymouth?
Seems a sure-fire way of alienating even more people.

knecht wrote:

Damon.Lenszner wrote:

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PCC paid JB/Akkeron £1.6 million for the stadium.

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At the risk of sounding like a stuck record ..... that is one of the reasons that is at least as important as the capacity of the stand. That footprint belongs to PCC and is leased to Argyle. How can PCC or Mr Brent justify using any of that to divert long-term income away from the club!?

We should be shouting this from the rooftops (not blocking sea views of course) how do we do it?

Local councillors. Local MPs. Local press. National press. That Argyle supporter you work with/lives next door to/meet in the pub/on the bus/......

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If we had a 25k capacity stadium would you still object to the hotel or cinema".

Yes, I would still object most strongly. There is no need for a cinema in the park and I object to a plethora of private businesses taking over parts of the existing Home Park footprint underneath the new stand ... it's a steal. I also object to a corner of the ground being taken over by a school.
He is trying everything he can to divided the opposition to these plans for his mate James ... embarrassing.

Embarrassing and as time goes on, increasingly desperate.


As Knecht has said, build it for a 50,000 capacity, it matters not if it cannot be funded.

E asn't bin payin attention, as e? Some of us have been speaking out against the hotel, the cinema, the road and the school for weeks. It's a park, FFS!

And I certainly see it as my job to be discussing this with as many people as I can, whether or not they're Argyle supporters. Strangely, the reactions I've been getting are not very closely aligned to those of Napoleon.

Schools and other bits of building sticking into the stadium it's feckin embarrassing.

Can you please keep the noise down you disturbing the hotel guests -- Piss off

[quote="knecht"]Local councillors. Local MPs. Local press. National press. That Argyle supporter you work with/lives next door to/meet in the pub/on the bus/......[/qu

I posted this on another thread, The e-mail was sent to Pauline Murphy of Efford the only one to reply though through Mr Evans, I have ask her again what her personal view are, I still waiting for a reply

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Reply from one of my e- mail sent to Labour Concilors, who past it on to Mr Evans to make the reply

Dear

RE: Home Park Development

Thank you for your correspondence regarding the Home Park Development proposals.
The owner of Plymouth Argyle Football Club, Akkeron Group LLP, is currently in discussion with the Plymouth City Council as Local Planning Authority over a redevelopment proposal that will include the redevelopment of the Mayflower Stand. We exercise our statutory duties as Local Planning Authority through officers in the Planning Department and councillors who sit on the Planning Committee.
These discussions are completely separate from any land owner discussions and are subject to the legislation that governs how planning matters must be considered by local authorities. At the moment Akkeron has not submitted a formal planning application, but is seeking the advice of the Planning Department on issues that will need to be considered as part of any planning application.
As part of the discussions Planning Officers are involving particular specialists to advise on different aspects of the proposals. They are also strongly advising Akkeron to undertake as much public consultation as possible before any planning application is made, as this will help Akkeron to understand public concerns and have a chance to address them before the planning application is formally submitted.
Once a planning application has been submitted it will be subject to a formal consultation process which will include giving all interested parties and members of the public the chance to give their views. An application of this nature will undoubtedly need to be considered by the Planning Committee which is an open, public meeting at which the applicant, ward councillors and objectors can speak. The Planning Committee will be required to consider all comments received on the planning application before a decision is reached.


Finally, I have passed on your comments to the Planning Officers who will in turn ensure that Akkeron are aware of the comments. However please be aware that it will be very important to also voice any concerns you have through the formal planning application process.

Yours sincerely,
Councillor Tudor Evans
Leader, Plymouth City Council

I'll happily give up my season ticket if James Brent and/or any of his board agree with his p(r)oxy director that anyone outside of Plymouth shouldn't have a view on the development.

James Brent needs to get his PR sorted out. Whether he likes it or not IJN is seen as Brent's wingman (and chauffeur) and outrider. A bit of rough to Brent's monied cherub faced upper middle class smooth.

Peggy * wrote:

E asn't bin payin attention, as e? Some of us have been speaking out against the hotel, the cinema, the road and the school for weeks. It's a park, FFS!

And I certainly see it as my job to be discussing this with as many people as I can, whether or not they're Argyle supporters. Strangely, the reactions I've been getting are not very closely aligned to those of Napoleon.

Didn't he say his grandad was chairman of Friends of Central Park in the 1970s?

At last the penny is dropping with many- Central park is a park and not a retail one!

honestly, a 30-35k wavering/exiled supporters, = a massive amount of cash.

but we'd rather stick with the 5k, thanks.

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Sufferedsince68 wrote:

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GOB wrote:

I see that Newell has a created a pasoti poll (we all know how reliable they are), anyway, the poll is "If we had a 25k capacity stadium would you still object to the hotel or cinema".

You know where this is going don't you!

What Newell and his chums with dozens of multis each to rig the result in their favor?! who would have thought it
And how dare those from outside Plymouth have an opinion....Bleddy ferriners!!

Just had time to trawl it and it now looks desperate up there - is that X geezer on the payroll to, he's IJN's shadow support!! Must say that Graham Clark just saunters up and lamps the top dog with sheer logic - there's a guy who didn't sell out, in the centre but both sides can respect him!!

punchdrunk wrote:

GOB wrote:

I see that Newell has a created a pasoti poll (we all know how reliable they are), anyway, the poll is "If we had a 25k capacity stadium would you still object to the hotel or cinema".

You know where this is going don't you!

What Newell and his chums with dozens of multis each to rig the result in their favor?! who would have thought it
And how dare those from outside Plymouth have an opinion....Bleddy ferriners!!

They are rattled and this is yet another indication that there is a major wobble going on and that matters because if the plan is unacceptable even to Argyle fans then it stands no chance at all in the wider world. Hence a bent poll with a pre-ordained and favourable result but it won't work because the plan is so obviously crap that no amount of spin will ever convince otherwise.

Unfortunately for them the Trust WG came up with a plan, a far better plan, that could have worked and which also allowed for future expansion proving that it could be done as long as one of the major component parts was relocated which is key to any version of the plan being workable.

The best part of the whole "you ain't from 'round 'ere" mantra is that there's going to be a hotel. Obviously, as a resident of Plymouth, I often stay in hotels in Plymouth. Idiocy of the highest order.

If people weren't born within the boundaries of Central Park, under a bush by the pitch and putt golf course, they shouldn't have a right to post anything at all about the subject.

X throbber and nool the dream team have as many polls as you like nooly baby speccy's shanty won't get built

Bandwagon wrote:

Just had time to trawl it and it now looks desperate up there - is that X geezer on the payroll to, he's IJN's shadow support!! Must say that Graham Clark just saunters up and lamps the top dog with sheer logic - there's a guy who didn't sell out, in the centre but both sides can respect him!!

Very true Bandy. He holds the centre ground very well with a little dignity. They soon got rid of him, and by the way he has already been lined up by the ne'er do wells as the one whose fault it will be when the REAL truth of the long term Mastpoint deal comes out that PL2 tried to whitewash a few months ago through Vital, when company details were published. Nothing to see here said el presidente. No ?

worried of penzance wrote:

Bandwagon wrote:

Just had time to trawl it and it now looks desperate up there - is that X geezer on the payroll to, he's IJN's shadow support!! Must say that Graham Clark just saunters up and lamps the top dog with sheer logic - there's a guy who didn't sell out, in the centre but both sides can respect him!!

Very true Bandy. He holds the centre ground very well with a little dignity. They soon got rid of him, and by the way he has already been lined up by the ne'er do wells as the one whose fault it will be when the REAL truth of the long term Mastpoint deal comes out that PL2 tried to whitewash a few months ago through Vital, when company details were published. Nothing to see here said el presidente. No ?

Proper nest of vipers up there all round - I can't remember a more divided fanbase, and still you get the insiders stoking the fires and Brent just stands by mute!!

Angry of Mayfair wrote:

nothing like a corrupt forum owner hosting a rigged poll is there lol

You mean that poll is rigged? No way. I can't believe it. I won't believe it.

Giving the benefit of doubt and assuming that newell and pasoti have no reputation of corruption and that no multi's are voting and that the poll isn't being manipulated, if only 50% of Argyle fans are happy to accept the bribery of a 25,000 capacity Home Park with the developments is a huge condemnation of the proposal and that's even without those of us on ATD that would have given a negative vote of newell's point of view.

And, considering that most of Plymouth's citizens are not even Argyle fans than the majority view of the proposal will be a complete and utter rejection.

At the start of last year Brent had the respect and trust of virtually everyone, now thanks to his greed and his friends and associates shenanigans and corruption he's lost that. He will find it difficult to get planning permission for a rabbit hutch in his own back garden now.