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PostSubject: Re: Chinese Virus May Have Infected Hundreds   Chinese Virus May Have Infected Hundreds - Page 6 EmptyTue Mar 30, 2021 7:47 pm

Germany suggest AZ vaccine for over-60s only after unusual blood clots discovered in 31 people who had received the vaccine

Canada also suspending use in people under 55

AZ officials are still insisting that the benefits of the vaccine far outweigh the risks.

AZ getting a right old kicking just of late !!.  

This will further put off folk who have not been vaccinated yet in the UK.


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It’s about time AZ told these people to feck off. They should ask how many people in the groups they will vaccinate and only supply the number given.

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PostSubject: Re: Chinese Virus May Have Infected Hundreds   Chinese Virus May Have Infected Hundreds - Page 6 EmptyTue Mar 30, 2021 9:09 pm

I reckon there is something in the story that the kicking the AZ vaccine is getting is quite probably down to lobbying from other big Pharma companies desperately trying to discredit the AZ as it’s is so successful & is being sold at cost price, making it the no-brainer goto vaccine
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Could well be and that the eu are slagging it off to take criticism away from them over their shit vaccine rollout.

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PostSubject: Re: Chinese Virus May Have Infected Hundreds   Chinese Virus May Have Infected Hundreds - Page 6 EmptyTue Mar 30, 2021 11:22 pm

I've seen no evidence that you get an increased chance of blood clots by having the AZ vaccine and if you apply the same scrutiny to any other vaccine you would see the same results. It's another angle from the anti vax mob being utilised by politicians that are totally inept at doing their jobs. That's the real story by the way Harve.
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That's just it. These anti vaxers and inept politicians use the weak minded and the plain stupid people in society to pass on these lies.

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Which, sadly, a lot of lesser thinking people are falling for.

All of this is clearly to discredit OX/AZ. Rival pharma, for, as said above, because of the intent by OX/AZ to supply this vaccine for no or very little profit - which for this day and age is totally absurd.

And clearly, for all to see, there's a combined effort by disgruntled and incompetent EU leaders to discredit the vaccine and the UK for A: Brexit and B: our immensely successful vaccine program, and C: to deflect attention away from their disastrous vaccine roll out program.

Blood clots: a study in the US into deaths thru blood clots found that around 90k people there die from them annually. Statistically, 31 in around 3 million is insignificant. It's 0.000001%! According to other learned sources (the BMJ) there are an equal number dying from the Pfizer one - the the EU don't scare-monger about THAT!

That's it. That's the crux of the whole shitty situation.

So, don't listen to MSM, Throbbers running the EU and social media experts. Get yer fooking jab so we can all get to the pub, watch footy with mates (and chauffeurs) and FFS, live music, gimme live music.

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Italy set to exceed the UK deaths per head of population in the next few days, deaths in Hungary and Poland out of control, France warning it's health service about to be overwhelmed, meanwhile here in the sunlight uplands of dear old Blighty Boris surges to a ten point lead in the polls over that bloke supposed to be running Labour. ...
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There’s somebody running labour !!!!
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PostSubject: Re: Chinese Virus May Have Infected Hundreds   Chinese Virus May Have Infected Hundreds - Page 6 EmptyWed Mar 31, 2021 11:58 am

Just been reading a report in the Mirror where disease experts are suggesting vaccines will be useless in 12 months - or less than - due to new variants getting around said vaccines.

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Interesting news regarding the Pfizer jab.

UK not looking at vaccinating youngsters as yet though , so I read.

Europeans now looking at getting hold of the Russian vaccine to help in its battle with covid-19 - Vlad the Cad will happy with this turn of events.

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Covid will mutate just like the flu does the likeliest scenario is booster jabs every autumn.
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PostSubject: Re: Chinese Virus May Have Infected Hundreds   Chinese Virus May Have Infected Hundreds - Page 6 EmptyWed Mar 31, 2021 1:10 pm

The crap UK press really love their Covid scare stories. It's well know the vaccines will need to be tweeked and given annually to keep ahead of the mutations just like the flu vaccine needs to be given annually.
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Every virus that ever was, mutated into tens, hundreds, thousands of different strains.

We've been tweaking vaccines to counter this for donkeys.

Move along. Nothing to see.

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This was an interesting read about viruses and bacteria trapped in very old ice.
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The EU has been criticised for the pace of its vaccination programme - only 16% of its population has received the jab, compared with 52% in the UK.
No doubt HahaHarve has figures showing the reverse is actually true, he gets more like comical Ali every day.
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Covid outbreak at Rittal-CSM

I know a few who work up up there.
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So true......

'What a truly hateful little man he is. Macron has monumentally lost control in France. French people are dying, lots of French people, because of his ego. Got that? People are dying at the altar of this little man's ego. And he's looking to shift the blame. Macron has mismanaged France's Covid response from day one. He has been, by his own admission, too slow, too scared and too stupid to grasp the scale of the problem. He is perhaps too used to diktats from the EU taking responsibility out of his hands - but he can't shirk this one.

He has utterly failed the French people and is now using that last refuge of the political scoundrel - bare-faced nationalism - in an attempt to shift the blame to Britain.

It's our fault you see.

Our fault for responding quickly to what was clearly a major world crisis (Macron took six weeks to even think about doing anything) and obviously our fault for investing heavily and early in a successful vaccine.

Macon meanwhile has sat idle seemingly only finding time to so comprehensively bad-mouth Britain's AstraZeneca vaccine he started to sound like a crazed anti-vaxxer.

Initially he cynically wanted to buy time for a potentially lucrative French vaccine in development to come to market - but when French scientists failed and abandoned the project he still couldn't bring himself to back Britain.

Meanwhile his repeated false claims over the Oxford-AstraZeneca vaccine have led to him stockpile millions of unused jabs and his only achievement is convincing more than 60 percent of the French public the AstraZeneca/Oxford jab is unsafe.

They are dying because of ignorance and stupidity and nationalism - and of course Macron's political ego.

The European Medicines Agency has certified the AstraZeneca jab as safe - but this is not about facts, it's about smears and point-scoring.

A week ago the EU (and Macron) were attacking Russia (still subject to EU sanctions for annexing Crimea, with some Kremlin officials also under international restrictions for the poisoning and jailing of opposition activist Alexei Navalny remember).

Yet yesterday Macron took his begging bowl to the Kremlin imploring Putin to consider sending the EU some of Russia's completely unapproved Sputnik vaccine.

It's called Sputnik for a reason - to recall that world-shaking former Soviet scientific success - and Putin has been using it around the world as a similarly spectacular example of Moscow's soft power.

Macron and Merkel have just handed this tyrant a PR coup beyond his wildest dreams.

Desperate EU begs Mother Russia for help anyone?

Meanwhile millions of safe, certified British vaccines lie unused in cupboards in Paris and Berlin.

Even the most ardent Remainer must now be thinking "blimey, we might have dodged a bullet here" such is the EU's open hostility.

A few days ago Macron broadcast a stage-managed mea-culpa where he promised to do better. He said his ambition had been lacking and now admired nations which had grasped the nettle sooner, like the USA.

Not a single mention of Britain.'

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It will be interesting to see how much our population goes up this weekend. Story on Spotlight saying how loads of Airbnb places are still advertising down here yet only people with certain exceptions allowed to travel. We have had several inquiries in the last six weeks and have just told people we were booked on a long let because I know they would have lied about being essential workers or similar.
We are booked solid for April from the 12th but people are still not committing much to longer term planning.
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mouldyoldgoat wrote:
So true......

A few days ago Macron broadcast a stage-managed mea-culpa where he promised to do better. He said his ambition had been lacking and now admired nations which had grasped the nettle sooner, like the USA.

Not a single mention of Britain.'

Did he mention Harve ?

If this should come to fruition it'll cramp his style and excuses even more.


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Blood clots now discovered in UK after AZ vaccine.

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VillageGreen wrote:
Blood clots now discovered in UK after AZ vaccine.

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I read earlier today that the number of blood clots found per head of population was in line with the average number found to be naturally occurring in people, regardless of their vaccination status.

Even if there were to be a proven link, the maths are incomparable in relation to risk of actual death from Covid.
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0.0016%
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VillageGreen wrote:
Blood clots now discovered in UK after AZ vaccine.

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I read earlier today that the number of blood clots found per head of population was in line with the average number found to be naturally occurring in people, regardless of their vaccination status.

That's true as the yearly sum total of deaths from blood clots were recorded even before Covid reached our shores.

Here's something I hadn't realised....

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Hugh Midde wrote:
Czarcasm wrote:
VillageGreen wrote:
Blood clots now discovered in UK after AZ vaccine.

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I read earlier today that the number of blood clots found per head of population was in line with the average number found to be naturally occurring in people, regardless of their vaccination status.  

That's true as the yearly sum total of deaths from blood clots were recorded even before Covid reached our shores.

Here's something I hadn't realised....

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A point conveniently unreported by MSM and all who's agenda is to derail, discredit OX/AZ.

The tragedy in all this is that certain people are falling for it and cancelling, or not turning up for their allotted jab because of this project fear- which in turn, if not used could go to waste.

There's some nefarious shit going on here.

The truth will out in the end. I'm sure.
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POI wrote:
Hugh Midde wrote:
Czarcasm wrote:
VillageGreen wrote:
Blood clots now discovered in UK after AZ vaccine.

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I read earlier today that the number of blood clots found per head of population was in line with the average number found to be naturally occurring in people, regardless of their vaccination status.  

That's true as the yearly sum total of deaths from blood clots were recorded even before Covid reached our shores.

Here's something I hadn't realised....

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A point conveniently unreported by MSM and all who's agenda is to derail, discredit OX/AZ.

The tragedy in all this is that certain people are falling for it and cancelling, or not turning up for their allotted jab because of this project fear- which in turn, if not used could go to waste.

There's some nefarious shit going on here.

The truth will out in the end. I'm sure.



As with any new vaccine there will be a small few who have adverse reactions , while the majority do not.

I will still take my 2nd jab in June unless told otherwise.

I can't find anywhere what the age of the people are , what sex they are and how long after receiving the OAZ did the clots develop ?
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