Avivas suggest Bretonside "protest".

Iggy wrote:

I am pretty sure that the money that Brent has recieved for the ice rink from the council will pay to maintain it or run it for ten years?

I understand the Ice rink is likely to close at the end of the year regardless if there is a replacement rink or not.
The type of refrigerant used for the rink (probably R22) becomes illegal then so without investment in new refrigerant equipment the rink will not be allowed to continue to operate.

Protest against Bretonside plan? Are they serious?

One thing is absolutely certain though and that's when Brent's HHP plan is finally, publicly ditched (it's been dead a long time now) it won't be Brent's fault for trying to squeeze a DD-cup tit into a B cup bra or not being able to finance it or setting a prohibitively inappropriate spec to start with or being too greedy or incompetent or negligent or not consulting or not showing any common sense or empathy for the environment whatsoever it'll be my fault or ATD's fault or AFT's fault or FoCP's fault or PCC's fault or breeze blocks'll be too expensive or macroeconomics'll be taking a dive or rain'll be too feckin wet.

Definitely nothing to do with the fact that Brent's plan was always going to collapse simply because it was completely crap from the get go.

FY 310 wrote:

Iggy wrote:

I am pretty sure that the money that Brent has recieved for the ice rink from the council will pay to maintain it or run it for ten years?

The Ice rink will close at the end of the year regardless if there is a replacement rink or not.
The type of refrigerant used for the rink (probably R22) becomes illegal then so without investment in new refrigerant equipment the rink will not be allowed to continue to operate.  

Two quotes

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Mr Brent's plans include a residential and retail development, sport and leisure facilities to complement the Plymouth Life Centre and a proposed new grandstand at Plymouth Argyle's Home Park.

He said the ice rink at the Pavilions - the only permanent one west of Bristol - would remain open until the new rink was built.

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Mr Brent’s Akkeron Group bought the Pavilions from Plymouth City Council in 2012.

The deal included a £2 million dowry from the council, which had been subsidising the Pavilions to the tune of £1.5million a year.

Mr Brent is required to provide a new ice rink for the city before he can push ahead with ambitious plans to redevelop the site and expand the arena.

SFD, you prat! I've just spit beer all over the place.  

If this forum has helped spread the word of the inherant crapness of the clusterfuck and contributed in the smallest of ways to its ultimate demise, I am very happy.

Sir Francis Drake wrote:

Protest against Bretonside plan? Are they serious?

One thing is absolutely certain though and that's when Brent's HHP plan is finally, publicly ditched (it's been dead a long time now) it won't be Brent's fault for trying to squeeze a DD-cup tit into a B cup bra or not being able to finance it or setting a prohibitively inappropriate spec to start with or being too greedy or incompetent or negligent or not consulting or not showing any common sense or empathy for the environment whatsoever it'll be my fault or ATD's fault or AFT's fault or FoCP's fault or PCC's fault or breeze blocks'll be too expensive or macroeconomics'll be taking a dive or rain'll be too feckin wet.

Definitely nothing to do with the fact that Brent's plan was always going to collapse simply because it was completely crap from the get go.

Newell and posty are allready laying the foundations for the blame game when hhp never happens and we can`t pay the balloon payment.

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Sir Francis Drake wrote:

Protest against Bretonside plan? Are they serious?

One thing is absolutely certain though and that's when Brent's HHP plan is finally, publicly ditched (it's been dead a long time now) it won't be Brent's fault for trying to squeeze a DD-cup tit into a B cup bra or not being able to finance it or setting a prohibitively inappropriate spec to start with or being too greedy or incompetent or negligent or not consulting or not showing any common sense or empathy for the environment whatsoever it'll be my fault or ATD's fault or AFT's fault or FoCP's fault or PCC's fault or breeze blocks'll be too expensive or macroeconomics'll be taking a dive or rain'll be too feckin wet.

Definitely nothing to do with the fact that Brent's plan was always going to collapse simply because it was completely crap from the get go.

Newell and posty are allready laying the foundations for the blame game when hhp never happens and we can`t pay the balloon payment.

It is sounding more and more like the fact that Brent will not look at a plan B then Brent will pull the plug on Argyle, is this acceptable to the dogs of war FFS!
The fine gentleman isn't afraid of a little blackmail it would seem.

Amusing read.

"What do we need a Premier League capacity bus station for when most of the year we don't need it?"

You can smell the desperation.

This whole Argyle has no future without HHP line is so defeatist, why roll over and die, when you can at think of practical solutions on how to raise 2m over 2 years.

Think there are a few dented egos and hurt pride over James not being able to deliver.

Harry Potter has to look at Plan B now.


That would be either build a decent stand with top corporate facilities and a actual ice arena worthy of building or sell up.

I simply cannot believe there's no plan b. And if there isn't there sure as hell ought to be.

Plan B is get the club promoted and then sell it to the old guard ain't it? Then the idiots on pasoti will be demanding we to be grateful that they saved us.

I think we'd be foolish to underestimate the cunning of Mr Brent, a wounded amimal is a dangerous thing, I'm pleased the original plans seem doomed to failure but I'm still very uneasy about what may happen next.

Angry wrote:

Harry Potter has to look at Plan B now.


That would be either build a decent stand with top corporate facilities and a actual ice arena worthy of building  or sell up.

He hasn't got investors/tenants . He can't build a grandstand , or anything else without them.

Tringreen wrote:

Angry wrote:

Harry Potter has to look at Plan B now.


That would be either build a decent stand with top corporate facilities and a actual ice arena worthy of building  or sell up.

He hasn't got investors/tenants . He can't build a grandstand , or anything else without them.

im sure if he offered naming rights to the stand and maybe the stadium he will find it easier to attract them.

Angry wrote:

Tringreen wrote:

Angry wrote:

Harry Potter has to look at Plan B now.


That would be either build a decent stand with top corporate facilities and a actual ice arena worthy of building  or sell up.

He hasn't got investors/tenants . He can't build a grandstand , or anything else without them.

im sure if he offered naming rights to the stand and maybe the stadium he will find it easier to attract them.

Doubt it. He wants any rent/profits.

Where have you been hiding anyway, Angrybloke ? Not that I'm complaining   

I think Postey has just had a bit of an epiphany, he just noticed that Brent has asset stripped the land needed for a plan B away from the club, my way or the highway then?
How feckin thick are these people?

Iggy wrote:

I think Postey has just had a bit of an epiphany, he just noticed that Brent has asset stripped the land needed for a plan B away from the club, my way or the highway then?
How feckin thick are these people?

Thick as   shit

When Newell and PL2 are reduced to entertaining talk of alternatives to the Clusterfuck, you know that the whole half-arsed plan really is dead in the water.

Happy Days.

Newell admits that HHP is unlikely to start-

Brent's BFF wrote:

Paul - What do you think we should do. We've got an owner who's always declared he wouldn't be sinking his own money into PAFC, he's in a situation for whatever reason, the HHP is started yet and looks unlikely to.

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Shut the door on yer way out Jim!       

What I find most astounding is how they still can't see the effect a new or well finished stadium with room for expansion, can have on the potential fanbase. HP is in a great location in the city and the impact of it being finished with the 'wow effect' would likely result in increased attendance figures, in line with what has been achieved at clubs like Swansea and Hull, who ten years ago were where we are now.

The boxed in 17k version will only attract the usual suspects. The average age of those poor devils, inevitably increases.

Saying that if we ever get to the PL we can buy a new ground is farcical. Firstly, we'd need the money to try to stay in the division and more importantly with no 'wow effect' attendances won't rise significantly. For big games at the top of Div 1 or the Championship, we'd be denying at least 10k the chance to get in to watch and all that lost revenue.

Agreed Tring, but it seems a built in mindset in Plymouth to never aim for more than you have been, or leave open the possibility of improving. A fatalistic negatively which if wasn't present would perhaps have resulted in Argyle achieving a season or more in the top flight or a cup final in the 125 year history. The 17k boxed in microstand is ok with me mentality is just a continuation of that backward we are not good enough mentality. Shamelessly proud of their ignorance too