Thatcher, Thatcher, the Milk Snatcher Dies

"Where there is discord may we bring harmony.
Where there is error may we bring truth.
Where there is doubt may we bring faith.
Where there is despair may we bring hope."

Out of her own mouth she presciently defined her failure.

The most divisive leader we have had since the civil war.

alannotivvy wrote:

AT FUKIN LAST, hope the BITCH suffered. CIDER PARTEEEEEEEEE

Having lived through the Margaret Thatcher era there were many things she did that I disagreed with but to wish suffering on another human being is totally out of order.

alannotivvy you are a fuckwit

Has anyone seen el presidente's reaction to the news? I can envisage the cnut slating her saying how she helped the rich get richer etc whilst dining with Brent and looking over the plans again.

feckin turncoat champagne socialist fraud. I hope he goes on strike and gets sacked but more likely he'll accept a back hander from da management and inform his comrades it's best they back down again.

People on Twitter think Cher has died.

#nowthatthatchersdead

LOL

I personally don't care. I wrote a satirical play about Thatcher for my degree - she was pretty evil.

knecht wrote:

"Where there is discord may we bring harmony.
Where there is error may we bring truth.
Where there is doubt may we bring faith.
Where there is despair may we bring hope."

Out of her own mouth she presciently defined her failure.

The most divisive leader we have had since the civil war.

What an insult this women was......quoting the prayer of Saint Francis.....AND DOING THE OPPOSITE.

Discord for harmony.

Error for truth.

Doubt for faith.

And turning many peoples hope into total despair.

Making it hard to support a trade union openly in many situations.....making it impossible to have any representation with management.....destroying the engineering background of a once proud nation.....dividing the country into those that have and those that have not.

I shall avoid the TV re- arranged programmes tonight.

hairy j wrote:

I personally don't care. I wrote a satirical play about Thatcher for my degree - she was pretty evil.

The fact that you had to write a "satirical play" to get a degree says it all.

"Evil" ?

Pol Pot was evil, Bliar took us into a war that cost hundreds of British lives and countless thousands of innocent Iraqis so he could get a well paying if immoral gig, in comparison to either Maggie was a mild nuisance.

What a bunch of drama queens there are on here, no offence intended.

I just hope Thatcherism and Conservatism dies with her

It has been said that you either loved her, or loathed her. I was in the second category........... but RIP Mrs Thatcher.

Gone but will never be forgotten but not with fondness in my eyes. She did however do what she thought was right for the right reasons and she was also someones mum so R.I.P Mrs T.

To be honest it was her LadyBalls that got her a grudging respect from me.

The Falklands typified that. Her response to the Argentine invasion was... 'if you think you're going to fuuuck all over our British citizens in the Falklands, then your fuuking going to get it, Galtieri'.

And they did.

(I guess I'm a sucker for a powerful woman...)

Czarcasm wrote:

To be honest it was her LadyBalls that got her a grudging respect from me.

The Falklands typified that. Her response to the Argentine invasion was... 'if you think you're going to fuuuck all over our British citizens in the Falklands, then your fuuking going to get it, Galtieri'.

And they did.

(I guess I'm a sucker for a powerful woman...)

But she was an ugly fecker.

Lord Tisdale wrote:

hairy j wrote:

I personally don't care. I wrote a satirical play about Thatcher for my degree - she was pretty evil.

The fact that you had to write a "satirical play" to get a degree says it all.

"Evil" ?

Pol Pot was evil, Bliar took us into a war that cost hundreds of British lives and countless thousands of innocent Iraqis so he could get a well paying if immoral gig, in comparison to either Maggie was a mild nuisance.

What a bunch of drama queens there are on here, no offence intended.

Hook, line, sinker.

i have never firmly been a supporter of Maggie nor an ardent Tory she lowered top rates of income tax from 95 per cent to less than 50 per cent. She denationalized the heartland of the British economy. She sold off council houses as a means of establishing a secure foundation for property-owners. The Falklands war was a close run thing given, i think a lot of people dont really know just how close to defeat we were at one point.
Margaret Thatcher was so much despised by many Britons, that much is true, credit where credit is due... she created an environment where one succeeds or fails on the basis of hard-work and ability, not on inheritance, patronage, or a social security blanket from the cradle to the grave.

Rip Maggie

punchdrunk wrote:

i have never firmly been a supporter of Maggie nor an ardent Tory she lowered top rates of income tax from 95 per cent to less than 50 per cent. She denationalized the heartland of the British economy. She sold off council houses as a means of establishing a secure foundation for property-owners. The Falklands war was a close run thing given, i think a lot of people dont really know just how close to defeat we were at one point.
Margaret Thatcher was so much despised by many Britons, that much is true, credit where credit is due... she created an environment where one succeeds or fails on the basis of hard-work and ability, not on inheritance, patronage, or a social security blanket from the cradle to the grave.

Rip Maggie

Yep that's about the size of it for me too, especially the last bit. Great post, punch.

its interesting when you hear all these maggie was this and that and this and destroy this area and that area..

yet she won 3 general elections!

Czarcasm wrote:

akagreengull wrote:

Czarcasm wrote:

In laymans terms, if Labour had been in power in 1982, the British citizens of the Falklands would now probably be speaking Spanish.

So what!

Great argument.

I'm beat.

At the start of the war, the Falklands meant nothing to the population than a name on a postage stamp, the tories withdrew any kind of military prescence or British presence, such was its value. Thatcher escalated the situation by sinking the Belgrano and started a British rescue mission at a time at a time when her goverments popularity was badly waning. Three hundred Belgrano lives sacrificed and 250 British servicemen some only 16 yrs of age, millions spent each year of taxpayers money on protecting a small island. I'm just waiting for more revelations under the 30yr rule to expose the lies and treachery even more.

I struggle to see any reason at all to wish death on someone. A family has lost a mother and a grandmother.

If you wanted to work thatcher helped you, if you wanted a life on the dole she didn't, i agree with having a welfare state, but you should not stay on it for ever and have loads of kids costing the tax payer a fortune, i did not really like her patronising tone but she was sincere which is more than you can say for most of the tossers in any party or union today

akagreengull wrote:

Czarcasm wrote:

akagreengull wrote:

Czarcasm wrote:

In laymans terms, if Labour had been in power in 1982, the British citizens of the Falklands would now probably be speaking Spanish.

So what!

Great argument.

I'm beat.

At the start of the war, the Falklands meant nothing to the population than a name on a postage stamp, the tories withdrew any kind of military prescence or British presence, such was its value. Thatcher escalated the situation by sinking the Belgrano and started a British rescue mission at a time at a time when her goverments popularity was badly waning. Three hundred Belgrano lives sacrificed and 250 British servicemen some only 16 yrs of age, millions spent each year of taxpayers money on protecting a small island. I'm just waiting for more revelations under the 30yr rule to expose the lies and treachery even more.

When you're dealing with uttercuntery (tm Mocko) of this level, then you either bow down or you come out fighting. Abandoning the Brits on those Islands wouldn't have been a problem for many, like yourself.

If I'm honest, I struggle with that mentality.

What the mentality of arguing against imperialism, and the jingoism at the time, even some of the cabinet at the time were not supportive of a task force as recently released cabinet papers show.
Thatcher will become the most discredited P.M of all time with further relevations.

It's common knowledge she was advised in some quarters against sending the task force. There were bound to be differing takes on the situation when it was as serious as it was. But she wasn't acting unilaterally.

The public gave their view on it at the next General Election, which she won in a landslide.

akagreengull wrote:

What the mentality of arguing against imperialism, and the jingoism at the time, even some of the cabinet at the time were not supportive of a task force as recently released cabinet papers show.
Thatcher will become the most discredited P.M of all time with further relevations.

It wasn't jingoism or imperialism,it was the eviction of forces sent to invade a sovereign territory by a military junta of a country complicit in the shielding of many nazi war criminals and who were essentially of the same disposition as their "guests".They got their arses kicked and deservedly so.I didn't vote for Thatcher in any of the three elections that she won and there would be a strong case for blaming the incompetence of the Tory government as the root cause of the Falklands conflict but once the Argentinians invaded,then there was no alternative but to kick them out by whatever means it took.War is a filthy business-my cousin and still one of my best mates was very lucky not to be killed when a 1000lb bomb passed through the helicopter pad of HMS Broadsword and didn't explode-don't think the Argies would have been shedding too many tears for him if they had won and it had been Galtieri or any of his loathsome acolytes who died today instead of Thatcher.

I think if we had lost one more ship we would have been heading for the back door, the Galahad fiasco was one of the biggest military feck ups of recent British military times...i knew a few Welsh Guardsmen who were on that boat when it got hit and they are still bitter to this day about why they were not brought ashore before the Jets came.
Not that Maggie had any doing in that just saying like.

I know I lived in the horrors of Thatcherite Britain, and fought the attacks against the unions,the poll tax, wholesale privatisation and the promotion of "loads of money" Britain. Patriotism, discrimination and jingoism have always been the weapons of the ruling class and their politician stooges. The Americans twice voted in Bush and Regan, they are hardly held in high esteem now by the American people.

This did make me laugh