The Mankover all action Thread.

Tgwu wrote:

Live from around HP, seats back in Barn Park end, there was a leak going down into the play area below.
Three men are putting together a heavy metal frame for the control room where the old disable stand use to sit. Small concrete pillars are built against the old wall and concrete footing. SWH for PCC are going to resurface Blunts Lane and into the entrance  where the ice rink will be.

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And this is the way Argyle prune trees. I wonder in the Friends Of Central Park will report it or are they still in Brents pocket

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pruning more like smashing the granny out of em!
Plus is that the sexy fence that they spent all that nice Liverpool money on is it

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This is where they have broken the planning conditions. They have to discharge all 10 conditions before they can erect anything control rooms, bogs, anything

Brents involved what do you all expect, par for the course.

akagreengull wrote:

Brents involved what do you all expect, par for the course.

Agreed utterly clueless but at the same time this project manager Jon Back would be the geezer whose neck is on the block.
Paul Duncan friend of mine said PCC had 13 complaints all up.

John Lloyd has posted on freechat reading from Planning Portal..... He may repost it here but basically drainage problems is stopping the revelopment of the Grandstand and currently wont be going anywhere until resolved

so it is all going down the drain, or not so to speak.

seadog wrote:

so it is all going down the drain, or not so to speak.

This was JLs post

"For those who are keeping an eye on the Grandstand redevelopment, a new document can be seen on PCC’s planning portal.

In it, the Council’s Drainage Engineer indicates that he has not authorised the discharge of planning condition 19, which specifically relates to surface water drainage.

His comments suggest that more work - and delays - may be necessary before his approval can be granted on the redevelopment phase of the project.

All pre-commencement conditions need to be discharged before starting work on the Grandstand itself.

All the other conditions appear to have been satisfied, but the surface drainage plan potentially involves the greatest cost and the most detailed engineering requirements.

Until this is resolved, it’s unlikely that much more can be done."

Followed up with...............

" Back to the point, six months after the initial planning permission was given, why is it taking so long to discharge these conditions?

Given that we’ve been told recently that the schedule is very tight indeed, with suggestions of there being unavoidably awkward moments during the process, wouldn’t it be preferable to discharge the planning conditions as soon as possible?

harvetheslayer wrote:

seadog wrote:

so it is all going down the drain, or not so to speak.

This was JLs post

"For those who are keeping an eye on the Grandstand redevelopment, a new document can be seen on PCC’s planning portal.

In it, the Council’s Drainage Engineer indicates that he has not authorised the discharge of planning condition 19, which specifically relates to surface water drainage.

His comments suggest that more work - and delays - may be necessary before his approval can be granted on the redevelopment phase of the project.

All pre-commencement conditions need to be discharged before starting work on the Grandstand itself.

All the other conditions appear to have been satisfied, but the surface drainage plan potentially involves the greatest cost and the most detailed engineering requirements.

Until this is resolved, it’s unlikely that much more can be done."

all coming along nicely

Jethro wrote:

harvetheslayer wrote:

seadog wrote:

so it is all going down the drain, or not so to speak.

This was JLs post

"For those who are keeping an eye on the Grandstand redevelopment, a new document can be seen on PCC’s planning portal.

In it, the Council’s Drainage Engineer indicates that he has not authorised the discharge of planning condition 19, which specifically relates to surface water drainage.

His comments suggest that more work - and delays - may be necessary before his approval can be granted on the redevelopment phase of the project.

All pre-commencement conditions need to be discharged before starting work on the Grandstand itself.

All the other conditions appear to have been satisfied, but the surface drainage plan potentially involves the greatest cost and the most detailed engineering requirements.

Until this is resolved, it’s unlikely that much more can be done."

all coming along nicely

Kellyshacks made the point that we'd be looking at a vacant grandstand when the season kicks off months and months ago.....looking nailed on a certainty now.
Club is a complete basket case off the field

harvetheslayer wrote:

Jethro wrote:

harvetheslayer wrote:

seadog wrote:

so it is all going down the drain, or not so to speak.

This was JLs post

"For those who are keeping an eye on the Grandstand redevelopment, a new document can be seen on PCC’s planning portal.

In it, the Council’s Drainage Engineer indicates that he has not authorised the discharge of planning condition 19, which specifically relates to surface water drainage.

His comments suggest that more work - and delays - may be necessary before his approval can be granted on the redevelopment phase of the project.

All pre-commencement conditions need to be discharged before starting work on the Grandstand itself.

All the other conditions appear to have been satisfied, but the surface drainage plan potentially involves the greatest cost and the most detailed engineering requirements.

Until this is resolved, it’s unlikely that much more can be done."

all coming along nicely

Kellyshacks made the point that we'd be looking at a vacant grandstand when the season kicks off months and months ago.....looking nailed on a certainty now.
Club is a complete basket case off the field

Least he can take the seats out

Me and Bees have mentioned the drainage issues I was told by a mate of mine in the council a couple of days ago. I'm presuming and Bees could probably confirm is that all the runoff from the site, which become your problem to deal with once you develop a site, is to be directed down towards the pond/marsh at the bottom of Barn Park. All the drains down there have been fooked for years and always erupt when we have a lot of rain which is not unknown. I've had to wade through two foot of water more than once to get out that way.
I'm guessing Brent will have to lay drains all through the park, could be a scary bill.
The big story here and always has been, no matter how many people Porky bans for saying it is that this wouldn't have happened without Brent's ridiculous contiguous planning application, none of this relates to the refurb and was totally avoidable as we pointed out at the time.
Brent's incompetence never ceases to amaze me.

Earwegoagain wrote:

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Brent's incompetence never ceases to amaze me.

Since he pulled the emergency parachute routine at Citibank the useless individual has lurched from one catastrophe to another.
How the hell have we got this lamebrain attempting a refurbishment of a grandstand when his own website has been under development for 5 years

seadog wrote:

so it is all going down the drain, or not so to speak.

very good seadog

RegGreen wrote:

seadog wrote:

so it is all going down the drain, or not so to speak.

very good seadog

Thing is now Reg its now become quite feasible that the countdown (up) clock could well go to 365+ days
The chancer is caught between a rock and a hard place. Sort the drainage out which will be £100,000's + obviously because feck all is being built till you do
The geezer has knocked down structures on a time schedule that even he admits is tight and we're now in complete no mans lands

James Brent talking this afternoon to Jon Back with Council Planning in attendance

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harvetheslayer wrote:

RegGreen wrote:

seadog wrote:

so it is all going down the drain, or not so to speak.

very good seadog

Thing is now Reg its now become quite feasible that the countdown (up) clock could well go to 365+ days
The chancer is caught between a rock and a hard place. Sort the drainage out which will be £100,000's + obviously because feck all is being built till you do
The geezer has knocked down structures on a time schedule that even he admits is tight and we're now in complete no mans lands

There are signs around the park warning that drainage work is taken place.

Six months Mankover progress report.....

Wonder if he's reconsidering having a majority share in the club to pay for said drains. Be interesting to see what Silent Si would do if he had more of a say, might get something done or there might be fighting in the boardroom over the mankover

Could bury lengths of Gabian baskets in the soil then channel the run off into that, wouldnt be cheap though.

Planned this well havnt they?

Every other 'development' brent has been involved in has turned to complete rat shit and so it seems this one has inevitably gone the same way. Good! Now f*** off brent and let a proper owner take over.

"This ground ah ha, is coming like a ghost ground"

How the feck has my name become part of a thread on the farm lol

The legend grows without any input these days

Your getting very famous mate

Also it's very amusing at how they are now claiming all kinds of pathetic rubbish about derailing etc, when the truth is it was done on the back of a fag packet from day 1, the latest example being illustrated today.

Move along nothing to see here.

PASOTI w*****S

harvetheslayer wrote:

How the feck has my name become part of a thread on the farm lol

The legend grows without any input these days

paranoia they think your after them