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PostSubject: Re: January Transfer Window   January Transfer Window - Page 8 EmptyFri Jan 26, 2024 5:10 pm

Surprised hes not come out and said we are looking for a number 9.
What dirt does Waine have on someone at the club to keep playing games?
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PostSubject: Re: January Transfer Window   January Transfer Window - Page 8 EmptyMon Jan 29, 2024 3:57 pm

The local rag reports foster is looking to bring in one more before thursday.

lets say he does that overall taking into account the incomings and departures re we better off now than December 31st? i would say we have just replaced like for like atm and the squad number hasn't increased
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PostSubject: Re: January Transfer Window   January Transfer Window - Page 8 EmptyMon Jan 29, 2024 6:05 pm

Why do we need to increase squad numbers? No point in having players on decent money when they might only get a few 20 minute runs off the bench.

Also the loan players probably come on the understanding (from their Clubs) that they start most of our games.
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PostSubject: Re: January Transfer Window   January Transfer Window - Page 8 EmptyMon Jan 29, 2024 6:45 pm

Grovehill wrote:
Why do we need to increase squad numbers? No point in having players on decent money when they might only get a few 20 minute runs off the bench.

Also the loan players probably come on the understanding (from their Clubs) that they start most of our games.

Because we don't have a decent size squad to begin with which shows once injuries start to pile up. Before any business took place we needed 2 players a striker and a defender so far we have just replaced the outgoings and T. Wright who to be fair wasnt playing but i assume Issaka will take his spot in the first team plans.

While i accept we wont bring in a defender which i feel is a mistake as we seen this season Scarr isnt a championship player, Galloway wont stay fit despite being good and Pleguezuelo is hit and miss. Leaving just Gibson and the new guy Phillips and seeing as we are going back to a back 3 its a gamble to rely on just those 5 alone without another. With that said we need a striker and i hope thats what the club bring in.
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PostSubject: Re: January Transfer Window   January Transfer Window - Page 8 EmptyMon Jan 29, 2024 7:56 pm

Perhaps Foster is the sort of coach who tries to get the best out of the players at his disposal before spending money, he might think that Issaka and Roberts can do enough when called on and that Butcher or Forshaw can fill in at CB in an emergency.

With 3 midfielders joining recently we have already had questions about how that will impact on Rendell and Houghton. There's no need to spread more uncertainty in the squad.
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PostSubject: Re: January Transfer Window   January Transfer Window - Page 8 EmptyMon Jan 29, 2024 8:44 pm

Grovehill wrote:
Perhaps Foster is the sort of coach who tries to get the best out of the players at his disposal before spending money, he might think that Issaka and Roberts can do enough when called on and that Butcher or Forshaw can fill in at CB in an emergency.

With 3 midfielders joining recently we have already had questions about how that will impact on Rendell and Houghton. There's no need to spread more uncertainty in the squad.

they dont play in defence or attack so they will be ok as before again we only replaced not added 3 for 3. There places in the team arent going be affected much we have many games to play.
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PostSubject: Re: January Transfer Window   January Transfer Window - Page 8 EmptyMon Jan 29, 2024 11:21 pm

so Whittaker to Lazio is the latest rumour now.




very random indeed so lets see how desperate is to stay over a move to rome.
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PostSubject: Re: January Transfer Window   January Transfer Window - Page 8 EmptyTue Jan 30, 2024 7:46 am

Hallett will take the first bid that comes in for Whittaker. Lazio know Argo are not Sunderland and will sell players way less than their worth. He's gone.
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PostSubject: Re: January Transfer Window   January Transfer Window - Page 8 EmptyTue Jan 30, 2024 11:06 am

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Hallett will take the first bid that comes in for Whittaker.  Lazio know Argo are not Sunderland and will sell players way less than their worth.  He's gone.

Lazio aren't as rich as some fans seem to believe they are so i don't see them offering what the club would settle for even a "Plymouth price" let alone the actual asking price if they do bid so i dnt think he is off just yet.

I dont rule it out though cause it would be typical argyle to sell him for cheap at the last minute leaving no time at all to sign a replacement on deadline day.

edited to add.

If they do happen to accept any bid for him now and that goes for any club not just Lazio there should be a loan deal for him to remain here till the end of the season, Whatever fee is offered worth mentioning again that swansea have a sell on clause so iany accepted bid needs to be fantastic imo so we benefit greatly financially a least even with that factor in place.
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PostSubject: Re: January Transfer Window   January Transfer Window - Page 8 EmptyTue Jan 30, 2024 12:29 pm

Lazio's bid for Whittaker has been turned down - £8m apparently. Argyle have re-iterated that he is not for sale.
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PostSubject: Re: January Transfer Window   January Transfer Window - Page 8 EmptyTue Jan 30, 2024 12:35 pm

PlymptonPilgrim wrote:
Lazio's bid for Whittaker has been turned down - £8m apparently. Argyle have re-iterated that he is not for sale.

‘Not for Sale’ usually means ‘up your offer’. Hopefully their pursuit of Rowe comes to something.

Who’d have thought it eh? Little’ol Argyle turning down what would quadruple our record sale price.
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PostSubject: Re: January Transfer Window   January Transfer Window - Page 8 EmptyTue Jan 30, 2024 1:08 pm

Czarcasm wrote:
PlymptonPilgrim wrote:
Lazio's bid for Whittaker has been turned down - £8m apparently. Argyle have re-iterated that he is not for sale.

‘Not for Sale’ usually means ‘up your offer’. Hopefully their pursuit of Rowe comes to something.

Who’d have thought it eh? Little’ol Argyle turning down what would quadruple our record sale price.


If they've really turned down 8 mill then fair play to uncle si, as you say though, are they trying to sqeeze a bit more from the romans? Don't like it one bit but 10 mill would be a ridiculous amount for a club like argo to snub.
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PostSubject: Re: January Transfer Window   January Transfer Window - Page 8 EmptyTue Jan 30, 2024 1:32 pm

PlymptonPilgrim wrote:
Lazio's bid for Whittaker has been turned down - £8m apparently. Argyle have re-iterated that he is not for sale.
I don’t believe that ..hallett & the board would bite your hand off for 5 mill…though it won’t happen till the summer cos there’d be a massive scream if he left and we hit a bad run and get relegated (they know that) and another thing I think they have been talking to clubs privately/listening to what’s going on for a summer deal but there deny that that’s why there saying his not for sale ..but come summer it will be the same old bollox ..it was a lot of money plus we didn’t want to stand in his way of any young player furthering His career & playing in the PL blah blah blah ..and few other excuses there add to that as well …I can already imagine the kind of statement that they will make
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PostSubject: Re: January Transfer Window   January Transfer Window - Page 8 EmptyTue Jan 30, 2024 3:11 pm

Is Morgan Whittaker another Joey Beauchamp? (Went from Oxford to West Ham but never settled)

And people seem to seem forgotten that even after Morgan has been sold, we will have Mike Cooper to cash in?

Foster & Dewsnip could have a VERY health transfer kitty this summer.
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PostSubject: Re: January Transfer Window   January Transfer Window - Page 8 EmptyTue Jan 30, 2024 3:33 pm

Grovehill wrote:
Is Morgan Whittaker another Joey Beauchamp? (Went from Oxford to West Ham but never settled)

And people seem to seem forgotten that even after Morgan has been sold, we will have Mike Cooper to cash in?

Foster & Dewsnip could have a VERY health transfer kitty this summer.
But don’t think there get top dollar as was expected before the two injuries though with cooper there still get a payday but nothing like the figures that was being banded about he got injured but someone will take a gamble on him but the massive pay day went west soon as he done his ACL(worse kind you could get I believe) and rushing him back playing so they could reserect salvaged a deal for January done him no favours whatsoever only made it worse
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PostSubject: Re: January Transfer Window   January Transfer Window - Page 8 EmptyTue Jan 30, 2024 4:48 pm

PlymptonPilgrim wrote:
Lazio's bid for Whittaker has been turned down - £8m apparently. Argyle have re-iterated that he is not for sale.

if they offered £8m the board would have frogged marched him to gatwick and made sure he got on the plane we are not a rich enough club to turn that down. Another thing if we are rich enough to turn down £8m why couldnt we find £2m to sign Azaz or even signed some players on perm deals and not heavily rely on loans.

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PostSubject: Re: January Transfer Window   January Transfer Window - Page 8 EmptyTue Jan 30, 2024 5:51 pm

It's the figure I was given by someone who knows a lot more than I do, but right or wrong, the club don't need to sell him and why would they? The stated aim is to stay in the Championship this season so why would they put that at risk by selling one of their best players? They don't need the money, and Whittaker wants to be here.

It may happen in the future, who knows, but the club have a plan to be a competitive championship club in 5 years, and selling a prized asset at this stage makes no sense at all.

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PostSubject: Re: January Transfer Window   January Transfer Window - Page 8 EmptyTue Jan 30, 2024 6:19 pm

RegGreen wrote:
Grovehill wrote:
Is Morgan Whittaker another Joey Beauchamp? (Went from Oxford to West Ham but never settled)

And people seem to seem forgotten that even after Morgan has been sold, we will have Mike Cooper to cash in?

Foster & Dewsnip could have a VERY health transfer kitty this summer.
But don’t think there get top dollar as was expected before the two injuries though with cooper there still get a payday but nothing like the figures that was being banded about he got injured but someone will take a gamble on him but the massive pay day went west soon as he done his ACL(worse kind you could get I believe) and rushing him back playing so they could reserect salvaged a deal for January done him no favours whatsoever only made it worse


I don't think an ACL injury devalues a player like it did years ago. Most players go on to play a full career with no side effects.
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PostSubject: Re: January Transfer Window   January Transfer Window - Page 8 EmptyTue Jan 30, 2024 6:49 pm

To get a bit of real-time accuracy on the sort of figures highly rated Championship players are fetching here and now, in this window….Morgan Rodgers (2goals 6 assists), who is very similar to Whittaker in style, has just gone to Villa for £14m rising to £16m. Adam Wharton (Blackburn to Palace) is £18m with£4m in add-ons.

Whittaker - 15 goals 6 assists - would then appear rather undersold at that £8m figure.
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PostSubject: Re: January Transfer Window   January Transfer Window - Page 8 EmptyTue Jan 30, 2024 7:04 pm

PlymptonPilgrim wrote:
It's the figure I was given by someone who knows a lot more than I do, but right or wrong, the club don't need to sell him and why would they? The stated aim is to stay in the Championship this season so why would they put that at risk by selling one of their best players? They don't need the money, and Whittaker wants to be here.

It may happen in the future, who knows, but the club have a plan to be a competitive championship club in 5 years, and selling a prized asset at this stage makes no sense at all.


i don't dispute your source or what you were told however If it was a genuine offer the club would have accepted they certainly would have done no question about it if it was £15m that like the news have said it was.

The club are struggling to fund that leisure centre at the brickfields, cant afford the corner stands and cant afford to sign players for a fee even £2m is too much and had to attract an unknown to be head coach to coach what they have and what the club can bring in cause they cant fund budgets a manager would want to compete in this league. These are not the actions of a club that can afford to turn down £15m or even £8m.

While i agree if you want to solidify your championship status for the next several years you want to keep players like Morgan and bring in players of his calibre here and build on that ready for the next step pushing for playoffs.
But the thing is certain whether its this week or not Whittaker wont be here for long and will be heavily touted in the summer with the club hoping to get a nice payday on him which they missed out on the lucrative pay day from cooper who wont be sold for anything like they hoped for due to his knee issues.
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PostSubject: Re: January Transfer Window   January Transfer Window - Page 8 EmptyTue Jan 30, 2024 7:07 pm

We may (or may not Suspect ) have turned down £8m for Whittaker but we definitely know he will leave for WAY less this window than both Morgan Rodgers and Adam Wharton have been sold to Prem clubs for.
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PostSubject: Re: January Transfer Window   January Transfer Window - Page 8 EmptyTue Jan 30, 2024 10:30 pm

I'd love MW to stay but the question that has to be asked is:

Which would be better, the current squad including MW or a squad without MW (and Cooper) but with half a dozen players of the standard of Mumba or Aziz?
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PostSubject: Re: January Transfer Window   January Transfer Window - Page 8 EmptyWed Jan 31, 2024 10:40 am

Wycombe Wanderers open talks to sign Plymouth Argyle midfielder Matt Butcher

Butcher, 26, is in the final six months of his contract at Plymouth.

League One side Wycombe are hoping to land the former Bournemouth man on a permanent deal before Thursday’s (1 February) deadline.

The defensive midfielder has made 18 appearances in all competitions for Championship side Plymouth so far this season.

But only five of those have come as part of the starting lineup and he could now be tempted by a move away in search of regular first-team action.

Butcher was part of the Plymouth side which won the League One title last season.
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PostSubject: Re: January Transfer Window   January Transfer Window - Page 8 EmptyWed Jan 31, 2024 10:53 am

Femi Azeez of Reading is a rumoured target.

Tgwu wrote:
Wycombe Wanderers open talks to sign Plymouth Argyle midfielder Matt Butcher

Butcher, 26, is in the final six months of his contract at Plymouth.

League One side Wycombe are hoping to land the former Bournemouth man on a permanent deal before Thursday’s (1 February) deadline.

The defensive midfielder has made 18 appearances in all competitions for Championship side Plymouth so far this season.

But only five of those have come as part of the starting lineup and he could now be tempted by a move away in search of regular first-team action.

Butcher was part of the Plymouth side which won the League One title last season.

I would let him leave now he can do a job for someone in league one as he showed last weekend. Forshaw coming in and Roberts getting elevated squad status it seems his playing time will be reduced more so and has pretty much ended his time here unfortunately for him so no point in keeping him here till the summer. Did well here useful player indeed.
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PostSubject: Re: January Transfer Window   January Transfer Window - Page 8 EmptyWed Jan 31, 2024 11:11 am

Angry wrote:
Femi Azeez of Reading is a rumoured target.

Tgwu wrote:
Wycombe Wanderers open talks to sign Plymouth Argyle midfielder Matt Butcher

Butcher, 26, is in the final six months of his contract at Plymouth.

League One side Wycombe are hoping to land the former Bournemouth man on a permanent deal before Thursday’s (1 February) deadline.

The defensive midfielder has made 18 appearances in all competitions for Championship side Plymouth so far this season.

But only five of those have come as part of the starting lineup and he could now be tempted by a move away in search of regular first-team action.

Butcher was part of the Plymouth side which won the League One title last season.

I would let him leave now he can do a job for someone in league one as he showed last weekend. Forshaw coming in and Roberts getting elevated squad status it seems  his playing time will be reduced more so and has pretty much ended his time here unfortunately for him so no point in keeping him here till the summer. Did well here useful player indeed.

Yep, sorry to see Butch go if it happens. Bit of a disaster at Cardiff but made the pass of the season to put Bundu in at Leeds,versatile player who was well worth signing and played a significant part in getting the club where it is today. Slowly but surely the promotion squad is being dismantled.
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