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PostSubject: Re: Truss and the economy.   Truss and the economy. - Page 6 EmptyMon Oct 24, 2022 6:12 pm

Clodagh Rubbish wrote:
Earwegoagain wrote:
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I reckon that Boris will play the Leadsom role in the May election this time, you know get down to his favourite candidate and him then step aside so there is no contest. Might as well draw names out of a hat.

Yeah right, like his ego would allow him to step aside for anyone. Hie still thinks he was stabbed in the back.

He's shit stirring and its being lapped up by his arse lickers in the press, theres no serious interest right now

1. Its not clear he's get the required number of nominations
2. He wouldn't want to inherit the current shit show and have to announce tax rises and spending. He lives to be popular, 

3. He isn't as popular as the Tories like to think he is, currently polling -21% approval
4. His fame as a so called proven winner is based on election victories against Ken Livingstone and Jeremy Corbyn
5. If you think its chaos now, if he wins about a quarter of the parliamentary parliamentary would resign the whip and he would barely fill a cabinet. The Parliamentary being a minority of supporters and a majority of those he's thrown under a bus or ignored.
6. He picked Brexit because he thought it would help him become PM, now that Brexit has been defeated and the Government is basically run by a cabal of remainers (Shapps, Hunt ) trying to salvage the UK's fecked global reputation, you'll see a very different  Johnson
7. It wasn't that long ago he was booted out by his MP's after barefacedly lying to protect a sex pest. Not a great look same MPs bringing him back

He's also currently on holiday, this is despite being paid to represent the constituents of Uxbridge in parliament and that parliament is still sitting.

The country needs to get the feck over this lying fat layabout, ASAP. It managed it with Farage so it can be done.

I know it's not in the arsenal of your average shouty remainer but you really should listen to me a lot more mate. cheers cheers cheers

I see, so you reckon Boris Johnson wanted the bloke that literally brought him down to become Prime Minister .  scratch

That would be a bit of an about turn considering he publicly backed the woman who stood against him last time.  scratch

Nothing to do with the fact he had nowhere near the required support oh no.

I know its not in the arsenal of your average red faced reality denying Brexiter to consider the facts but perhaps you want to go back and have a little think about that one.  lol!

Rubbish, what I said came true, own it. No way was he ever going to stand again now because the job is a poisoned chalice for whoever takes it, maybe that is why he has helped give Rishi the keys? Do you ever think for yourself?

If you weren't such a rage filled contrarian you might see I pointed all that out. However If he were that keen on handing "Rishi the keys", why didn't he do it last month?

Instead he's tried to play kingmaker and having not had anywhere near the support he claimed he had, got jointly told to do one by both Mordaunt and Sunak. So now he's got his tail well and truly between his fat cheeks.

For a candidate that you now confidently claim was never going to stand, you seemed very keen that  he win though?

Read what I wrote at the head of all this blather and that is just what has happened, he has taken votes away from Mordant to hand Rishi the keys to Downing St. no doubt on a promise of some job or other either now or in the near future. you really are a tool despite what I said being in black and white you still cant accept that I was right.
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PostSubject: Re: Truss and the economy.   Truss and the economy. - Page 6 EmptyMon Oct 24, 2022 6:16 pm

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Thought Wiggo was off to sort the revolution on the streets of London.

What are you doing so much then wanker? I bet as far as you get to rebellion is liking Harves posts on Facebook. No wonder we have this shitshow to deal with.
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Freathy wrote:
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And so on to the Sunak era, will he reunite the Tories and bring the country out of its current mess ?
Of course not.  The tory party is way too hopelessly divided.  There may be a short period of giving the impression of uniting but that will be very short lived and then splits the size of the grand canyon will re-appear as sunak and hunt ditch big chunks of the manifesto because they want very deep spending cuts which adversely affect the 'red wall'.  The general election cannot be put off just because the billionaire wants to play at being PM for a few months.

SUNAK OUT NOW!!!!!!

I would love to see this lot out on their arses but Im wondering if they need to be given until Christmas or new year to sort the markets out and protect our pensions. No doubt the knives will be out but they really need to put that all aside for at least a few months. Not sure the Labour party is much better mind I still remember the hatchet job they did on Corbyn after getting overwhelming support from the party.
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PostSubject: Re: Truss and the economy.   Truss and the economy. - Page 6 EmptyTue Oct 25, 2022 7:46 am

Sunak's a robot. I've seen more charisma in a mud flap. I'll give him 3 months, then it's GE time.
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PostSubject: Re: Truss and the economy.   Truss and the economy. - Page 6 EmptyTue Oct 25, 2022 10:26 am

Great comment from the Telegraph,
"just like the X Factor, except no one actually voted for the winner".
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much like with Truss i dont imagine him lasting very long as pm before the careerists in the tory party start to oust him as leader
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Angry wrote:
much like with Truss i dont imagine him lasting very long as pm before the careerists in the tory party start to oust him as leader
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Thing is could a faction oust Sunak and avoid a GE? I think not and that would end up with most MP,'s out of a job and they must know that shorely?
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PostSubject: Re: Truss and the economy.   Truss and the economy. - Page 6 EmptyTue Oct 25, 2022 1:17 pm

Today: Moggy gone, Brandon Lewis now gone. The Resignations continue. Oh dear Rishi lad.

Call a GE now. Get the Liebour loons in so we can have a real belly laugh!

It's a pity Guy fawkes is long gone. I'd have a job for him!
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Earwegoagain wrote:
Angry wrote:
much like with Truss i dont imagine him lasting very long as pm before the careerists in the tory party start to oust him as leader
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Thing is could  a faction oust Sunak and avoid a GE? I think not and that would end up with most MP,'s out of a job and they must know that shorely?

they are out of a job regardless, the general election will be blistering to the tories on a par to 97 if sunak doesnt pull off a hail mary and wins the public around and keep the game of thrones cosplayers waiting to oust him for the leadership at bay they may just lessen the damage coming their way.
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Angry wrote:
Earwegoagain wrote:
Angry wrote:
much like with Truss i dont imagine him lasting very long as pm before the careerists in the tory party start to oust him as leader
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Thing is could  a faction oust Sunak and avoid a GE? I think not and that would end up with most MP,'s out of a job and they must know that shorely?

they are out of a job regardless, the general election will be blistering to the tories on a par to 97 if sunak doesnt pull off a hail mary and wins the public around and keep the game of thrones cosplayers waiting to oust him for the leadership at bay they may just lessen the damage coming their way.

Trouble is that a GE is two years away so tax rises (which Im not opposed to in principle but we are getting fleeced at the pumps and on energy) along with cuts to non existent services. If we were faced with a GE now they would have to raid the energy companies to fill the money pit and bribe us all with help to the energy bills. We have a very tough two years ahead foreshore.
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PostSubject: Re: Truss and the economy.   Truss and the economy. - Page 6 EmptyWed Oct 26, 2022 7:36 am

Dewy-eyed Sunak having replaced the hapless Truss pledges to ‘fill tomorrow with hope’. Then appoints a ministerial code-breaching, human-rights-scorning, cruelty-fetishising ghoul as Home Secretary. Why? Because his grubby deal with her and her ERG nutters trumped the wellbeing of the country.
Grim and hopeless
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Read the paragraph above from my un'learned friend and it gives some kind of idea what Rishi and the country face in trying to rebuild. We have some quite obvious problems to fix yet some people haven't got past 2016 on the calendar.
The idea is to try and unite the different factions in a Mao like fashion, keep your friends close and your enemies closer.
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The biggest problem that we have is gov debt which rose steeply from 2010 until 2020 then went off the scale with Sunaks ridiculous help for all scheme during Covid. Sure we should have helped a.lot of people but not the wealthy and the ftse companies. Truss has now done the same with the energy bills giving help to anybody in fact Wealthy Rishi will get the same help as you or I. The cuts in public services they are talking about now are to plug an immediate £40bn black hole yet that could be taken from the banks and energy companies today which would then calm the markets and bring down interest rates to affordable levels.
Lets see what he does?
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PostSubject: Re: Truss and the economy.   Truss and the economy. - Page 6 EmptyWed Oct 26, 2022 1:04 pm

Ah, the proposed spending cuts will no doubt harm the poor and vulnerable. They will suffer more than most with the new austerty measures the Tories will bring in. No idea how many years it will go on for - absolutely shocking too !!




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I fail to see what cuts in public spending old fishy Rishi can implement. They're all cut to the bone already! FFS.
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Cheesy-Chips wrote:
I fail to see what cuts in public spending old fishy Rishi can implement. They're all cut to the bone already! FFS.
the bastards will find something to cut don’t worry about that
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I fail to see what cuts in public spending old fishy Rishi can implement. They're all cut to the bone already! FFS.

The biggest one I can think of which wouldn’t hit the common man so much but would mean cutting losses, would be to shelve HS2. Billions already spent, but many more Billions still potentially saved.

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I fail to see what cuts in public spending old fishy Rishi can implement. They're all cut to the bone already! FFS.




They will find something, like reg said.


The last time the Tories brought in austerity measures, thousands rightfully on sickness benefits were reassessed and a great many had benefits cut, with many suffering badly and many more taking cuts to a tribunal.




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Cheesy-Chips wrote:
I fail to see what cuts in public spending old fishy Rishi can implement. They're all cut to the bone already! FFS.




They will find something, like reg said.


The last time the Tories brought in austerity measures, thousands rightfully on sickness benefits were reassessed and a great many had benefits cut, with many suffering badly and many more taking cuts to a tribunal.





I was one of those people following a car accident and literally couldn't walk downstairs some days yet French firm ASOS gave me 0 points out of 15 meaning that I instantly lost my benefits despite having numerous medical notes including one from the top spinal specialist in the country at the time yet they were allowed to ignore any of my evidence and used the evidence of an OT instead. Ive always worked, I couldn't wait to get back to work FFS.
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I was listening to a guy on Radio 4 t'other night whilst trumbling up the M5 (honk honk)!

He spewed out an endless list of government funds going abroad for feckin ridiculous amounts of dosh for equally ridiculous purposes - and no, I can't even remember them there were so many. I do remember tens of millions going to places like Qatar, UAE and the like for training teachers, their army etc. Another one was something like £70 million a year to China! £300 million for an airport for the island of St Helena that can't be used! As I say, the list went on and on.

Why isn't there a government department to specifically stop this complete waste of money? Madness! Old fishi Rishi telling us he's going to cut public spending, while at the same time, we're spaffing billions away on utter bollocks.

You couldn't make it up.
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Think of all the money we saved by leaving the single market and customs union, lol,
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Think of all the money we saved by leaving the single market and customs union, lol,

Funny that should bring that up (lol) last night on Spotlight they had the Looe Monkey Sanctuary on saying how they have been left with a massive shortfall of funds and will have to close because they are losing their EU funding. I mean Monkeys are quite cool but they are taking pet monkeys and looking after them, and now its basically a Monkey zoo and we are paying taxes that get handed around by our civil servants then given to the EU civil servants who then hand it back to our civil servants who then hand the half that's left to a fooking Monkey zoo! Is it any wonder Cornwall and a majority of the British public voted out?
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VillageGreen wrote:
Cheesy-Chips wrote:
I fail to see what cuts in public spending old fishy Rishi can implement. They're all cut to the bone already! FFS.




They will find something, like reg said.


The last time the Tories brought in austerity measures, thousands rightfully on sickness benefits were reassessed and a great many had benefits cut, with many suffering badly and many more taking cuts to a tribunal.




most likely to be cutting sickness benifits yet again as of 2 weeks ago didn’t they state there clamping down again & reassessing people yet again already I believe ..Absolutely disgusting
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Death to Cornish Monkees, yes that was on the side of the bus.
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Braverman's a spoilt, entitled lit trail of dynamite that's going to blow because she insists on doing whatever she likes. She's allergic to rules and propriety. I reckon she'll bring Sunak down: either by gross misconduct in office, or in revenge, if he sacks her.
James Cleverly speaking on Sky news claiming that Sunak is an “incredibly clever politician”. The evidence of the ministerial appointments, especially Braverman, rather disproves that.
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