Plymouth Argyle v Liverpool Match thread

beesrus wrote:

You start out defensively with a negative attitude, and you will get what you get., and from a very average L1 standard bunch of kids plus a couple of names. Classic brand bullying where you can serve substandard coffee and still charge.
Both Warnock and Gerrard thought Argyle should have had a more positive attitude. Too right, but the great ATD/Despoti/Chat Janner knew best.
Wasted opportunity to do a Lincoln, a Yeovil.

Agreed................backs to the wall performances will not win promotion. Goals need to be scored.

We scored four last weekend.

akagreengull wrote:

We scored four last weekend.

Argyle have the third best scoring record in the division, which would not really suggest that each week they have their backs to the wall. A one off cup tie against a team with obviously superior talent and resources wouldn't necessarily indicate the general pattern of the season. Admittedly Argyle are not an all out attacking outfit- the defensive record is also the third best in the division- but possibly that reflects practicalities and that necessity is sometimes the mother of invention when it comes to cutting the available cloth, if you excuse the mixed metaphors.

Looking like a terrible result now

Les Miserable wrote:

Looking like a terrible result now

Possession; Liverpool 73% Southampton 27%. Saints did an Argyle on them, they were lucky in that Jack Stephens got away with a tackle which was a penalty about a minute before Long broke away to score and finish the tie. Good to see these teams are taking notice of how master tactician Adams went about his business in quelling the Liverpool threat.

Swansea match exactly the same, has Klippity Klopp been rumbled?

Argyle should have tried to test Liverpool more than they did. Three touches in the opposing box will always produce the square root of nothing.

beesrus wrote:

Argyle should have tried to test Liverpool more than they did. Three touches in the opposing box will always produce the square root of nothing.

Testing Liverpool with Div2 players isn't quite the same as testing them with Premiership players.....that's why 0-0 became 0-1.

beesrus wrote:

Argyle should have tried to test Liverpool more than they did. Three touches in the opposing box will always produce the square root of nothing.

We got a draw. So evidently not always, Beez.

And so it came to pass, we should've blown them away

Kloppo starting to look a bit ploppo, only January and their season is over.

Les Miserable wrote:

And so it came to pass, we should've blown them away

I agree with that, Les. We were quite clear they were there for the taking. Swansea, Wolves, and Calstock next week, provided they don't rest a couple of guys who want to work in the shop at the weekend. The Liverpool team put out against us were way below average. Half those kids will be lucky to play championship football, if that. A team Alan Judge the pointless scamperer could even get in while living on borrowed time.  It was so obvious in the first game after about 20 minutes. Still, you can't tell Argyle fans anything, they're too busy saying how well we did to only lose in a replay. And all that national attention............... made them proud. That's inbred cultural underdog stuff, bred in at an early stage in the dockyard and the like. You don't win games without trying to score goals. Losers.

Hole in three Skinny will hop along in a minute saying we don't know what we're talking about and recite the L2 compendium of  football tactics. Losers

beesrus wrote:

Les Miserable wrote:

And so it came to pass, we should've blown them away

I agree with that, Les. We were quite clear they were there for the taking. Swansea, Wolves, and Calstock next week, provided they don't rest a couple of guys who want to work in the shop at the weekend. The Liverpool team put out against us were way below average. Half those kids will be lucky to play championship football, if that. A team Alan Judge the pointless scamperer could even get in while living on borrowed time.  It was so obvious in the first game after about 20 minutes. Still, you can't tell Argyle fans anything, they're too busy saying how well we did to only lose in a replay. And all that national attention............... made them proud. That's inbred cultural underdog stuff, bred in at an early stage in the dockyard and the like. You don't win games without trying to score goals. Losers.

Hole in three Skinny will hop along in a minute saying we don't know what we're talking about and recite the L2 compendium of  football tactics. Losers

Not sure why Alan Judge in particular should be singled out as an example but presumably that would be the same Alan Judge who has played in successive championship promotion chases at Brentford, won the supporters player of the year award last year and was voted by his fellow professionals into the championship team of the season to boot? Looks like others may have formed a different opinion of the man to you-losers eh. Not sure if your head is so far in your esoteric hive that you failed to notice this but Swansea, Wolves and Southampton just happen to be at least two divisions above Argyle and by definition possess better players than Argyle who are certainly more likely to have the ability to score on the counter attack. I know facts [even non league 2 ones] don't really bother you that much but looking at the match stats today, Wolves played in exactly the same way as Argyle, Swansea and Southampton did-Liverpool 79%,Wolves 21% possession. Looks as though DA may have learnt the compendium of tactics fairly well and others have followed, certainly as far as playing Liverpool in whatever guise is concerned.

Greenskin wrote:

I know facts [even non league 2 ones] don't really bother you that much but looking at the match stats today, Wolves played in exactly the same way as Argyle, Swansea and Southampton did-Liverpool 79%,Wolves 21% possession. Looks as though DA may have learnt the compendium of tactics fairly well and others have followed, certainly as far as playing Liverpool in whatever guise is concerned.

The only difference being, those teams have players to hit Liverpool on the break. Argyle don't. Play to your own strengths, not some one else's.
As for facts, just look at what's happening out there in the world, we're post truth now where facts count for nothing with Trumpy leading the way. "Emotional truth" is where it's at apparently, so I must be in the swim. I'm such a follower of fashion.

beesrus wrote:

Les Miserable wrote:

And so it came to pass, we should've blown them away

I agree with that, Les. We were quite clear they were there for the taking. Swansea, Wolves, and Calstock next week, provided they don't rest a couple of guys who want to work in the shop at the weekend. The Liverpool team put out against us were way below average. Half those kids will be lucky to play championship football, if that. A team Alan Judge the pointless scamperer could even get in while living on borrowed time.  It was so obvious in the first game after about 20 minutes. Still, you can't tell Argyle fans anything, they're too busy saying how well we did to only lose in a replay. And all that national attention............... made them proud. That's inbred cultural underdog stuff, bred in at an early stage in the dockyard and the like. You don't win games without trying to score goals. Losers.

Hole in three Skinny will hop along in a minute saying we don't know what we're talking about and recite the L2 compendium of  football tactics. Losers

Stop it, too much laughing is no good for my constitution

beesrus wrote:

The only difference being, those teams have players to hit Liverpool on the break. Argyle don't. Play to your own strengths, not some one else's.

It's so simple when you put it like that.

Federer? No problem, just get your first serve in at 140mph and it's in the bag.

Bolt? piece of piss. Get out of the blocks quick and keep your head down.

O'Sullivan? Get in first, make a century break and you're home and dry.

You cannot go toe to toe with better players. Adams had it spot on. No shame in that.

Les Miserable wrote:

And so it came to pass, we should've blown them away

We're the only team to have lost to them in january. Same old Argo, Brent out

Rollo Tomasi wrote:

You cannot go toe to toe with better players. Adams had it spot on. No shame in that.

No win in it either.
You can't go toe to toe with better players ?   .....tell that to the marines.....and also the  1973 third division Argyle team ( they didn't even get promoted that year ) that not only beat, but outplayed 3 excellent First division teams away from home. I saw all three games. We played them off the park, they didn't know what hit them. And it wasn't their reserve teams either in those days.

And how come Licoln have just managed the toe to toe impossibility ? All over them by all accounts.

I saw those games too, had a terrible cold for ages so my old Dad could take out in the fresh air.

I've moved on since then though.

Mid week afternoon match due to the power blackouts LOL

I also see Wycombe took Tottenham to 4 3 today at WHL, leading twice. They obviously haven't heard of the toe to toe embargo either. That's the spirit.

Hugh Watt wrote:

Les Miserable wrote:

And so it came to pass, we should've blown them away

We're the only team to have lost to them in january. Same old Argo, Brent out

And Adams, the George Graham of L2.

Blow me if Lincoln haven't gone and done it again against Brighton, and all with 11 bodies behind the ball, as we all know such upsets are impossible without massed defence. Must have been 3 long range punts by their keeper 
The year of the underdog, well, apart from Argyle of course. Fortune favours the brave. That's our post Liverpool world syndication rights deal scuppered then. Famous for a day and an ear wiggle

You don't win anything without ambition. I'm with Bees.

Greenskin wrote:

beesrus wrote:

Les Miserable wrote:

And so it came to pass, we should've blown them away

I agree with that, Les. We were quite clear they were there for the taking. Swansea, Wolves, and Calstock next week, provided they don't rest a couple of guys who want to work in the shop at the weekend. The Liverpool team put out against us were way below average. Half those kids will be lucky to play championship football, if that. A team Alan Judge the pointless scamperer could even get in while living on borrowed time.  It was so obvious in the first game after about 20 minutes. Still, you can't tell Argyle fans anything, they're too busy saying how well we did to only lose in a replay. And all that national attention............... made them proud. That's inbred cultural underdog stuff, bred in at an early stage in the dockyard and the like. You don't win games without trying to score goals. Losers.

Hole in three Skinny will hop along in a minute saying we don't know what we're talking about and recite the L2 compendium of  football tactics. Losers

Not sure why Alan Judge in particular should be singled out as an example but presumably that would be the same Alan Judge who has played in successive championship promotion chases at Brentford, won the supporters player of the year award last year and was voted by his fellow professionals into the championship team of the season to boot? Looks like others may have formed a different opinion of the man to you-losers eh. Not sure if your head is so far in your esoteric hive that you failed to notice this but Swansea, Wolves and Southampton just happen to be at least two divisions above Argyle and by definition possess better players than Argyle who are certainly more likely to have the ability to score on the counter attack. I know facts [even non league 2 ones] don't really bother you that much but looking at the match stats today, Wolves played in exactly the same way as Argyle, Swansea and Southampton did-Liverpool 79%,Wolves 21% possession. Looks as though DA may have learnt the compendium of tactics fairly well and others have followed, certainly as far as playing Liverpool in whatever guise is concerned.

How to tell the latest incarnation of this particular poster:

1) A weird obsession with Alan Judge
2) Literally never admits he's wrong about anything ever

Biro ?