More Shit

He must be worry, his puppets has not help, the last chance to pull the wool over Plymouth eyes.
He must live in the Herald office.
This time the Herald as ask TFOCP to respond and they have come out fighting


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James Brent defends £50m developments planned around Argyle stadium

CENTRAL Park campaigners have been accused of making "misleading and provocative statements" about plans to develop Argyle's stadium.

Argyle boss James Brent last week published further details of a £50million scheme to build a new grandstand for the club. The ambitious project will also have an ice rink, ten-screen cinema, a hotel and shops and restaurants.

Janice Hunt, acting chair of the Friends of Central Park, went on the offensive, attacking Mr Brent's Akkeron Leisure company over the scheme. But last night Akkeron hit back at Mrs Hunt's claims.

A spokesman said: "The proposed development sits predominantly within the existing car park of Plymouth Argyle and not in the middle of Central Park. The development is contained within the legal boundary of the club. The plans do not, and cannot due to planning rules, include fast food outlets."

He said the development was a similar height to the Life Centre – not seven times higher than Marsh Mills, as claimed.

It would have a footprint about 60 per cent of the Sainsbury's development at Marsh Mills. No one has yet given Akkeron permission to proceed with the development. This is what the democratic planning process is all about," the spokesman said.

"The proposed development does not contravene any of Central Park's covenants – because it is not in Central Park.

"There has been widespread consultation with all interested parties and local stakeholders over several months, including constructive meetings with the previous recent leadership of the Friends of Central Park on March 21 and the Central Park Community Forum on April 18. Consultation with all interested parties will continue not just during the planning process, but beyond and into any sanctioned construction phases.

"The proposed access road into the development is the existing concourse and on land already within the use of Argyle. It widens on the east side to allow entry to the car park, but remains within the legal boundary."

The spokesman said that building on unremediated brown space or unkept areas within Argyle's boundary on the edge of Central Park meant that Cottage Field – which is zoned to be built on under the current area action plan – would not need to be developed.

"The proposed built area is less than a quarter of the green space currently zoned for development, that is Cottage Field."

He also rejected claims that the new development would be a 24-hour operation.

"The Argyle Fans Trust have also confirmed that they are not opposed to the development. Andy Symons, chair of the trust, has confirmed that: 'I don't know of any Argyle fan who doesn't want to see the grandstand replaced – it's served its purpose but is now well past its sell-by date'."

The Akkeron spokesman said: "It is disappointing to see that the acting leadership of Friends of Central Park has issued misleading and provocative statements after we enjoyed constructive meetings with their predecessors.

"The proposal provides for significant investment (over £1.1million) to make improvements to Central Park.

"We look forward to the continued consultation process and hope that this will be based on fact and not speculation or misinterpretation.

"We have no doubt that our proposals are good for Central Park, for the city of Plymouth, and for Plymothians."

Janice Hunt denied issuing misleading statements, saying she will stick to her belief that "the perception of it is like putting Marsh Mills into the middle of Central Park."

She said: "Of course they are coming into the green space at the back of the park. I don't know what they are talking about.

"We object to the fact that they are encroaching on the main green space, I don't know how they can deny that.

"We are more than happy to meet with them and discuss the issues."


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Sounds like Symons and co. need to demand that the unedited views of the AFT on the ministand and the development in general, are properly published in the local press.
Is there a watchdog to contact re biased press reports ?

Press Complaints Commission

Think that would need to come from AFT

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For society, read PAFC.

That quote from Andy has been lifted directly from the interview he did with Chris Errington a couple of weeks ago. It's factually correct in the sense that the Trust - and Andy - are well aware that the old Grandstand is on it's last legs. Anyone wanting so see the sort of development that the Trust would prefer needs only to revisit the Working Group's proposals.

We know that AFT but the Herald reading public won't.

You can't really blame the club/Akkeron for opposing the opposition. It'd be quite strange for them to present a plan and then agree that it's a terible plan that will forever ruin a green space, ruin the environment and create lots of money for James Brent and hamstring the club. They're bound to object to the opposition.

The language we've seen though isn't professional - responding with accusations of misleading and with yesterday's Jameson's a'with heavy heart'. It's emotive and not what I'd expect from a corporation.

I want this built (the stand and the rest of the facilities under it) but what the city/club are giving up to get that is not a compromise, it's too weighted in Akkeron's interests. As soon as people realise there's a road involved, things will change. Building on an existing footprint is fine, encroaching into the park won't be.

The AFT should put the herald straight over Andy's and the AFTs position. Everything coming out of brent's mouthpeices (including the herald) regarding this proposal is spin, twisted half truths and manipulation.

I was a few months ago completely against press regulation because if you have a regulated press you have an over regulated country. Now I am wavering because if you have a corrupt press then you have a corrupt country!

This is the Herald editor.....Herald

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This has to be the first non 24 hour hotel I have ever known and who decides how fast food has to be before it is classed as "fast food"?

I'm not sure how many times higher than Marsh Mills the development will be but it must be at least several times higher, Marsh Mills is pretty much at sea level, whereas the Brent's monstrous development will be overlooking most of the City.

The tactic of team Brent/ Herald now seems to be falsely promoting the HHP development the Trust backing. From the constant reference to Jameson as a Trust founder to the mis-quote from Any Symons in today's piece. I think they are relying on the lack of communication to non-internet fans.

I would urge the Trust to put out a statement (to the Herald) re-stating their views- although this may cause issues with the club once again (and the Trust branded as troublemakers).

Freathy wrote:

The AFT should put the herald straight over Andy's and the AFTs position. Everything coming out of brent's mouthpeices (including the herald) regarding this proposal is spin, twisted half truths and manipulation.

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More spin from the Banker, can you get it Mr Brent it not wanted here in the Park move it into the City, I am sure your friend Mr Evan will gave you more freehold land for peanuts.
Reader of this web page if you log on to ATD web site you will get more balance then you do from a Hitler style Mods that run PASOTI. Disagree and you are ban that is the way that site works.

I've tried twice to post and neither comment has been accepted.

Keep a record.

The brenties are pulling every rabbit out of the hat to gain greater public affection for the whole property development but its only backfiring.

Time to scrap there plans work with the AFT, local residents and FOCP and come up with a solution where everyone is happy.

If the Herald aren't allowing both sides of the argument to post a comment then that must be something the press complaints commission would be interested in?

Tgwu wrote:

Freathy wrote:

The AFT should put the herald straight over Andy's and the AFTs position. Everything coming out of brent's mouthpeices (including the herald) regarding this proposal is spin, twisted half truths and manipulation.

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More spin from the Banker, can you get it Mr Brent it not wanted here in the Park move it into the City, I am sure your friend Mr Evan will gave you more freehold land for peanuts.
Reader of this web page if you log on to ATD web site you will get more balance then you do from a Hitler style Mods that run PASOTI. Disagree and you are ban that is the way that site works.

just be reposted, how long before it is pulled

I see all the anti posts are now getting minus thumbs- looks like Team Brent are scared of the views in the Herald.

Chemical Ali wrote:

I see all the anti posts are now getting minus thumbs- looks like Team Brent are scared of the views in the Herald.

pro brent ones get them too to give a fair balance reply on the matter. You wont get this on the herald or pasoti lol

John Sheridan rolled out today with a new photo of the stand

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PLYMOUTH Argyle have released a new architect's impression of the proposed grandstand to replace the existing Mayflower Grandstand at Home Park.

Proposals for the new grandstand have been submitted to Plymouth City planners as part of a £50 million Higher Home Park redevelopment, which includes an ice rink, a 10-screen cinema, hotel and shops and restaurants.

The architect's impression above shows the Theatre of Greens packed for a night derby game against fierce Devon rivals Exeter City.

Argyle manager John Sheridan said of the proposed redevelopment: "It will make Home Park the best stadium in the division. It's something to really look forward to.
"It's really exciting. I wish we had it now. The chairman has done really well."

If the planned rebuild starts next season and the Mayflower Grandstand consequently becomes unavailable, existing Mayflower Members will be able to choose a new seat elsewhere in the stadium.

Current Mayflower Members who are Members when a new grandstand opens will be given priority choice of available seating in the new grandstand.

Memberships for 2013/14 – which include a season-ticket for all 23 League Two games – are available now from Home Park.

Another measure of just how utterly Village we are becoming.

We're supposed to get excited about having the best ground in Division 4.

Fcuk off Brent.

To be fair to the Herald they have printed Damon's superb letter, but there is another pop at the FoCP.

Unfortunately for Tony Smith letter #LINK# he doesn't really know his facts

GG - is there a link to Demon's letter?

don't worry got it

shonbo wrote:

don't worry got it

In case anyone hasn't seen the link in Jameson thread

Yer tis

Superb letter Damon with one ommission

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The fans who are not falling in-line with the proposals are doing so because they want the best for their football club and believe that the plans as they currently stand could be better.

Should have included want the best for their city.

btw gg, good comments on the 'erald