Luke McCormick

Would be interesting to have the view of ATD.

http://www.pasoti.co.uk/talk/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=66821

Done his time, that's it, don't think he needs punishing for the rest of his life, his conscience should do that for him.

He's done his sentence and should be allowed to get on with his life.

He didn't choose the sentence and everybody makes mistakes. A huge mistake which he has to now live with for the rest of his life.

I don't think he'd come back to Argyle in a million years, surely a fresh start for him is his best option.

He's been punished. His punishment is almost up. That should be the end of it. The only thing I'd add is the degree to which he has shown contrition is important.

He served his time (although the sentence did seem very short) and has the right to live his life.

Don't think he'll return to Argyle/ professional football- the Sun would have a field day. Other footballers have returned to the game after prison spells - Tony Adams (drink driving), Marlon King (Assault/rape?) and Lee Hughes (hit and run) so it is possible, but it does need strength of character.

I do know that when he was in Channings Wood he wasn't even allowed to train/ play for the football side because the media could use the story "Killer footballer returns to game in prison" etc.

I just don't know.

I'm sure there was a thread about this on there recently when the hang 'em and flog 'em brigade were out in force. I'm ambivient about it as I think, certainly personally when I've driven tired, there but for the grace of God go I.

He was a very good keeper but I can't see any way he could return to professional football. As others have said he has to live with the consequences of that morning for the rest of his life.

Given the recent "good will" shown towards us by the wider football community in the wake of the administration disaster i hardly think that re-signing a convicted child killer will endear us in a good light.

punchdrunk wrote:

Given the recent "good will" shown towards us by the wider football community in the wake of the administration disaster i hardly think that re-signing a convicted child killer will endear us in a good light.

He is not a convicted child killer, making such statements could lead to you facing the courts.

Luke pleaded guilty and was sentenced on two counts of causing death by dangerous driving.

There is a lot of difference between the two acts!

Lee Jameson wrote:

punchdrunk wrote:

Given the recent "good will" shown towards us by the wider football community in the wake of the administration disaster i hardly think that re-signing a convicted child killer will endear us in a good light.

He is not a convicted child killer, making such statements could lead to you facing the courts.

Luke pleaded guilty and was sentenced on two counts of causing death by dangerous driving.

There is a lot of difference between the two acts!

Well sorry Mr Petracelli don't go all legal with me.....you aren't on Crapotti now you know!

I just wouldn't be comfortable with him playing for Argyle again....im sure many feel the same

I must admit I do not want him back at Argyle.

He was convicted. he killed children.

I hope this is not one of those "Would you welcome Tony Wrathall back to Argyle" type questions.

Frank Bullitt wrote:

I hope this is not one of those "Would you welcome Tony Wrathall back to Argyle" type questions.

Who?

Frank Bullitt wrote:

I hope this is not one of those "Would you welcome Tony Wrathall back to Argyle" type questions.

Not at all. I can understand why members of this establishment would feel uncomfortable with Luke returning to Argyle, however I will state again he is no child killer.

Not at any point to Luke stab, strangle or kill those boys with malice intended !

The trouble is he will have to face the vigilantes of the Sun.

knecht wrote:

He was convicted. he killed children.

Not quite. I'm with LJ on this.

In the eyes of the law two children died as a result of his actions. They were not premeditated. He did not set out to kill anyone.

I'd have him back. He'd be ideal - he'd be bloody cheap!

Cerbera wrote:

knecht wrote:

He was convicted. he killed children.

Not quite. I'm with LJ on this.

In the eyes of the law two children died as a result of his actions. They were not premeditated. He did not set out to kill anyone.

I'd have him back. He'd be ideal - he'd be bloody cheap!

I actually agree with you. I was just responding to the pedantry of 'he's not a convicted child-killer'. (My pedantry would enable me to represent England in the Pedantry Olympics ).

I just don't get people who want a punishment and then a pound of flesh. But, as I implied in my first comment, I would have a different view if he came out asking what the fuss was all about.

He done that appalling crime and he's done the time, but If he has any sense he wouldn't come back and the club wouldn't want him back, for everyone's sake.

Best if he just drifts off into the unknown and lives a quiet life.

GOB wrote:

He done that appalling crime and he's done the time, but If he has any sense he wouldn't come back and the club wouldn't want him back, for everyone's sake.

Best if he just drifts off into the unknown and lives a quiet life.

This.

If he wants to work in the community coaching kids, that'd be good.

He's entitled to get on with his life and play football again.

Personally I wouldn't want him back at the club and wouldn't knowingly watch a game he was playing in. Not least because there would be some who would find it an excuse to abuse him and others who would think he deserved some sort of round of applause. He deserves neither.

Hopefully he'll never drink and drive again. And the only example he should be is as a reminder to anyone who drives after drinking not to do it.

I'll always forgive but won't forget.

If he returned to playing professional footy he would get abused up and down the country....best if he retired gracefully.

If you were the surviving member of that family you wouldn't forgive quite so easily I'm sure Dougie. Let alone forget.

There is no way on this earth he could ever come back to this club and work let alone take to the field. The supporters just would not have it and rightly so. I cannot see how he could go to another UK club either because supporters everywhere in the UK would not take kindly either. Quite possibly nor would any team of players either. If he continues in football after his release it must surely be outside of the UK.

He didn't make a mistake that day he CHOSE to drive when he knew he was not fit. That isn't a mistake it is a choice. He didn't mean to kill anyone but he has destroyed a family by making that choice nonetheless. He will have to live with himself for the rest of his life and I hope he finds it very hard. He has paid his legal dues and law wise that is the end of the matter but I could never forgive him for what he did personally.

He has done his time, he should not be prevented from playing again, although I do not think he would be best advised to play in this Country. Argyle should stay well clear

I don't think he should be able to make a very good living like being a professional footballer. Go and do a coaching job, paying back children with his skills and expertise. Work for a charity or work from home. I don't ever want to see him again, or hear about him, because if he has any shame he shouldn't even consider a position in the spotlight again.

There was a similar thread to this before and like I said then, fans may not give him so much adulation because of his past actions, but what about when he makes an amazing penalty save?

Sorry but for me he should keep as low a profile as possible.

How would you feel if he stood against you in an election Lee? I'm sure you would be the first one printing leaflets pointing out his misdemeanour, and making it a huge issue.