Can anybody do another season in the Basement with Brent?

If Brents decision to cash in on Purrington without replacing him and his policy of signing short term nomarks causes the club to miss out on promotion again, can anybody really face another season in this dogshit league with Brent in charge?
If the club fails to get promoted there is noway i am going face another season in the Basement with Jimmy, my lifelong attachment to Plymouth Argyle will be over.

You'll be in the trenches at Morecambe next year.....YOU LOVE IT SUFFS!

Les Miserable wrote:

You'll be in the trenches at Morecambe next year.....YOU LOVE IT SUFFS!

No les, if argo dont go up and Basement Brent, still owns the club come August, i will delete my account on this fine forum and wash my hands of it all.

Come of it Suffers, if Dover or Forest Green go up, IT WILL BE A NEW GROUND TO GO TO!!! Cannot wait to see Dovers ground full o' the mighty Green Army!!!

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Nope not going to home park while he is still here, havent been to a home game in over 7 years can keep that up

I've only been to two matches since brent's arrival. I am NOT going again util he's history. I won't miss any 'promotion party' this season because it's clear the annual brent (non)funded collapse is in full swing meaning play-offs misery AGAIN!

I will feel more positive about argyle next season if :
1) Argyle get promoted this season
2) Brent sells up and fecks off this season
3) Starnes gets sacked for his incompetence
4) Webb just goes away somewhere
5) Newell gets exposed for being a dysfunctional nobody and gets expelled from the club
6) Hallett takes over and becomes a very good owner
7) Argyle get promoted this season and the above are history excepting Hallett (benefit of doubt)
Arry comes ere down buys the club, builds a new stand and we climb the leagues and 2,3,4,5, are history

akagreengull wrote:

I will feel more positive about argyle next season if :
1) Argyle get promoted this season
2) Brent sells up and fecks off this season
3) Starnes gets sacked for his incompetence
4) Webb just goes away somewhere
5) Newell gets exposed for being a dysfunctional nobody and gets expelled from the club
6) Hallett takes over and becomes a very good owner
7) Argyle get promoted this season and the above are history excepting Hallett (benefit of doubt)
Arry comes ere down buys the club, builds a new stand and we climb the leagues and 2,3,4,5, are history

Fair weather fan.....

I can't be doing with another season in League Two, it will be another soul destroyer.

You could nail it on that Jimmy won't be too bothered if Argyle do not go up, either in the automatics or via the Play-Off Final (I bet he would love another money-making trip to Wembley). 

I have stuck to my guns by deciding not to attend any matches this season, that is my small bit of protesting (although, I shall attend the Exeter match).

I am hoping that Argyle will go up in May, it is about time that they do.

VillageGreen wrote:

I have stuck to my guns by deciding not to attend any matches this season, that is my small bit of protesting [i](although, I shall attend the Exeter match).

Given where we are the moment, it would be a disaster if we don't go up this year. (I think I said the same last year). Numbers wise we do have a stronger squad this year so I'm hoping we have enough to fall over the line without the need for the play offs.

If we don't you can be sure the Brentophiles will be blaming Adams, the fans, the players, referees, anyone except Lord James, who after all, gave the manager the 10th best budget in the division.

The sad thing is, there will be those who will be content with L2, a big fish etc etc. One of those is unfortunately our Chairman.

I wonder if another failure occurs, Hallet will step up with new investment from the States and buy out the reluctant one. We can but hope.

PlymptonPilgrim wrote:

Given where we are the moment, it would be a disaster if we don't go up this year. (I think I said the same last year). Numbes wise we do have a stronger squad this year so I'm hoping we have enough to fall over the line without the need for the play offs.

If we don't you can be sure the Brentophiles will be blaming Adams, the fans, the players, referees, anyone except Lord James, who after all, gave the manager the 10th best budget in the division.

The sad thing is, there will be those who will be content with L2, a big fish etc etc. One of those is unfortunately our Chairman.

I wonder if another failure occurs, Hallet will step up with new investment from the States and buy out the reluctant one. We can but hope.

Sadly that will be the case.

Until those numbers reduce and they begin to see what Brent is really all about, it will continue unabated (except of course, here). Should failure to get out of this league occur yet again, that might tip a few over the edge and into the ''Brent Out'' camp. 

Once that happens, it could turn into a crescendo, we hope.

I posted this on the other site but it fits nicely here too. My views on if we'll go up at of Saturday February 4th, am.

It's a really tough one for me. I'm neither convinced we'll go up nor convinced we'll throw it away. I think it's a very very close run thing, If pushed, I suppose I think we'll just do it but in reality I'm wavering and liable to change my mind.

The first fiction I think we need to dispel is the notion that continuing in the vein of the run we're on at the moment would guarantee us finishing in the play-offs again. Our points per game over the past 6 games would, if extrapolated over the remaining 19 games, be enough to get 86 points in total which would surely promote us. Our points per game over the last ten games (where we've lost a lot but also won a lot, nothing of the draw specialists about us) would if extrapolated be enough to end up on 84 points. Again, enough for promotion in 90 percent of seasons. So we could maintain our form since the start of December and almost certainly go up.

I do also think we'll come above Exeter. They are on a blistering run of form but the very nature of Exeter is they're a streaky side. Even in previous seasons, great runs of form have been followed with woeful ones. When a manager is at a club for as long as Tisdale has been at City, often the same patterns start to emerge in subsequent seasons. Just look at Wenger. So, I'm confident Exeter will stop winning in the near future simply by law of averages. How they pick themselves up after their first defeat will be interesting. I have a feeling they won't respond well to it. Even if we don't go up automatically, I don't think Exeter will. They also haven't expanded their squad at all and I think that will tell in late March and April if we're both still up there.

And there's the fact that we have, to credit the club and the board, made some signings that look on the face of it pretty impressive. Kennedy comes highly rated and Sarcevic was good in this league before. Taylor should plug the Spencer gap admirably for the meanwhile up front too.

Now as to why I'm not so confident.

The decision to sell Purrington was in my view inexcusable. We've got a lot of money anyway from the play-offs, the cup run, Mason, Nelson and now Hourihane. We've cleared a huge amount of our debt as a club. There was absolutely no necessity to make a quick buck. Argyle should have sat Purrington down and said 'look son, in the summer you can sign for whoever the chuff you like but you get us promoted first'. Anything else is an unnecessary gamble of our hopes. For whose who say Purrington isn't one of the more important players, I completely disagree. Full-backs are vital to how Adams has got us playing this season using the wide areas. He needs someone who can not only defend but will also get up the line and whip crosses in. Or at least, take a man with him to create room for other players to utilise the wide areas. Full-backs like Sawyer who for all his strengths, aren't athletic enough to play the role how Purrington does are deeply detrimental to our attempts to get promoted. If we don't go up, selling Purrington will be viewed as a grave mistake.

The second reason I'm worried is if anything even more unsettling. Even though our form is fine on paper, since we've crept into the business end of the season. In the last two seasons (I'm including 14/15 in this as well as 15/16), we've looked SO much better before Christmas. If ever the saying 'they're better when they just concentrate on their game' applies to the mentality and ethos of any one side, it's Argyle. Before Christmas, when there aren't any big consequences to losing a game, we play to our full ability because we're relaxed and just concentrating on nothing but playing our own game. After Christmas, in two seasons now, we've been a different beast. We've looked jittery, we've looked nervous. We've looked like we aren't enjoying our football. And I can only think it's because the pressure is on. When we're at the business end of the season, and the results have more immediate consequences for our position in the table and our chances of promotion, we completely mess it up.

Look at April, we won at Portsmouth and Orient when the pressure was relatively off and it looked unlikely for us to get automatic promotion. After two wins, we were right back in it. We then capitulated in the unadulterated shambles that was Dagenham home when we were back on the verge of the top three. For two seasons now, our players haven't had the bottle to cope when the big occasions come along. We've almost been too scared of the big occasion and self-imploded.

With that in mind, let's assess the last two games. Our game management whilst in the lead against Cheltenham was appalling, flying recklessly forward and not slowing the game down at all. Now you could argue (and I did) that it was a plus point in the mentality column that we went and got the late winner. However, our poor game management at 1-0 up was a concern. At Yeovil, as soon as we went 1-0 down we COMPLETELY AND UTTERLY FOLDED. We conceded another and then gifted them chances so that it could easily have been a couple more on top. Benefit of the doubt can be given to the unusual circumstances maybe, but does that show a side who are brittle mentally? I don't think it does.

A big part of me is expecting it to go wrong. We're a good side, we're going well in the league and if we keep up the way we are then we should be in League One next season. But I fear a combination of being weaker at full-back juxtaposed with our poor squad mentality could be what costs us. If pushed, I think we'll just get over the line kicking and screaming. But it won't be pretty.

I agree sam.

We will go up but it's despite Brent not because of.

Hugh Watt wrote:

Come of it Suffers, if Dover or Forest Green go up, IT WILL BE A NEW GROUND TO GO TO!!! Cannot wait to see Dovers ground full o' the mighty Green Army!!!

Plus just what every member of the Green Army wants the chance to get Auction signed ticket stubs by james from Dover away 

If we dont go up Brent must be forced out. No doubt Del Bhey and the players will take their share of the flack and more than likely piss off in the summer, some will go on to play or manage in league or above he will still be here.

The cycle will not change with Brent and his henchman starnes running the club on a shoestring's shoestring. Even if we do by luck go up this year both should go anyway as neither of them will be able to deliver in order to make us competitive in league one so we dont come straight back down.

I think Simon will take over if we don't go up.
But, in short, yep i'll still go next season.
Life is what you make it and I enjoy spending time with my lad and my mates at Argyle.
Sorry if that doesn't fit with anybody else's POV.

BBC1 wrote:

I think Simon will take over if we don't go up.
But, in short, yep i'll still go next season.
Life is what you make it and I enjoy spending time with my lad and my mates at Argyle.
Sorry if that doesn't fit with anybody else's POV.

P's OV are just that - P's OV. Everyone's got one but they're not necessarily relevant to others.

Argyle at home is for me a day on the beer with 90 mins of 'football' sandwiched in. No more, no less.

Czarcasm wrote:

BBC1 wrote:

I think Simon will take over if we don't go up.
But, in short, yep i'll still go next season.
Life is what you make it and I enjoy spending time with my lad and my mates at Argyle.
Sorry if that doesn't fit with anybody else's POV.

P's OV are just that - P's OV. Everyone's got one but they're not necessarily relevant to others.

Argyle at home is for me a day on the beer with 90 mins of 'football' sandwiched in. No more, no less.

That used to be mine too.
Bit different these days.

Argyle is part of my being. Haven't lived out west for over 20 years now and with a young family, I get to no more than 5 games a season these days. In some ways, it is harder to maintain a bond because of physical restrictions but in others it is easier to carry on with feeling affinity because I don't burn my cash on a season ticket, or following the feckers around everywhere.

I want something more than Brent for the club but if he is still there and Argyle are still in League 2 next season, PAFC will remain my club and for ever longer. Our current league position does help though - took a long time to get the play-off defeat out of my head, especially following the shit served up in the semi-final defeat the previous season.

Innocent Egbunike wrote:

Argyle is part of my being. Haven't lived out west for over 20 years now and with a young family, I get to no more than 5 games a season these days. In some ways, it is harder to maintain a bond because of physical restrictions but in others it is easier to carry on with feeling affinity because I don't burn my cash on a season ticket, or following the feckers around everywhere.

I want something more than Brent for the club but if he is still there and Argyle are still in League 2 next season, PAFC will remain my club and for ever longer. Our current league position does help though - took a long time to get the play-off defeat out of my head, especially following the shit served up in the semi-final defeat the previous season.

I still have that in my head, it is the main reason I have not been this season, regardless of the side doing rather well.

I do not want Argyle to finish in the Play-Offs yet again. Going through all the stress that comes with it is not good for the health. Argyle making a no-show at Wembley blew the wind out of the sails as far as I am concerned. The fans turned up in huge numbers that day, the team did not and that was the galling part of it.

For me personally, it has got to be automatic promotion at any cost.

The fact that after all these years jam-packed rather more with disappointment than triumph I'm still going suggests that I'll still be there next year and the year after etc.

But for any number of reasons we must go up this year. It's unacceptable for this club to be in this division and not be promoted from it every time it happens.

I can accept bumbling mediocrity at a higher level but not at this. It's just not good enough.

There's a whole load of young fans who've only ever known brent, basement and miserable failure. They've only heard mythical stories from days of yore when Argo regularly rubbed shoulders with Newcastle, Leeds, WBA etc whilst they watch brent's Argo get walloped by Barnet again.