Unfriendly (Home to Reading under 21's - 25th July)

That's probably the reason then. Unless the AFT pay

The costs for an afternoon game in the summer in front of 3-4000 people paying an average of £7.50 a head (£10 adults £5 kids)would be minimal. Half a dozen turnstile operators and a couple dozen stewards. No police. Your gate receipts would be 25-30kish, maybe more.

No one would ever put on a home pre-season friendly if they were going to lose money continually.

Dick Trickle wrote:

It would as you have to open up the ground, stewards, club staff etc. You would also possibly have to share gate receipts or even pay the costs for the away team.

3,000 - 4,000 paying £5-£10 each more than covers the cost of matchday staff.

ejh wrote:

Dick Trickle wrote:

It would as you have to open up the ground, stewards, club staff etc. You would also possibly have to share gate receipts or even pay the costs for the away team.

3,000 - 4,000 paying £5-£10 each more than covers the cost of matchday staff.

Travelling expenses, hotel, split gate receipts with away team etc. For me this is why we have no home match.

What about AFT man the turnstiles, become stewards for the day, clean the ground after the game and cleans the owner's of the pispot web site seat in the director box.

atd vs exeweb is an pasoti thing they did with exeweb so for that reason im out.

Rollo Tomasi wrote:

It's the manager that decides the pre season opposition, the training itinerary and whether to go away and stay at a camp/hotel.

What's it to do with a CEO!

That Sheridan hadn't arranged any matches sort of gave the game away as to his intentions.

Sheridan left a week or so after the playoffs finished. At that point, Starnes should have had the conversation with him about pre-season planning: How far have you got? Who do I need to speak to? How many fixtures are organised? What needs finalising?

Once that conversation has been had, Starnes should have taken responsibility for Sheridan's administrative workload until a replacement had been appointed as you would expect any decent line-manager to do. A man of Starnes' experience should, by now, know that the season ends in May and starts again in August. Therefore he should know that July would be the optimum month for pre-season games. It's not that difficult, really. Pre season games can, if the organisational ability and professionalism is in place, be organised well in advance. The buck stops with the CEO. He should have set timescales for the manager to organise the friendlies, and then done it himself once Sheridan left. Lost revenues, and more evidence for those who think the club is an amateurish shambles off the field.

I agree with most of what you say. However, the early bird catches the worm. I've been told that the attractive teams, as it were, are snapped up well before the season has ended.

That Sheridan had nothing in place should have raised the alarm. It clearly didn't and for that the Board and the CEO acted really stupidly.

steveinspain wrote:

ejh wrote:

Dick Trickle wrote:

It would as you have to open up the ground, stewards, club staff etc. You would also possibly have to share gate receipts or even pay the costs for the away team.

3,000 - 4,000 paying £5-£10 each more than covers the cost of matchday staff.

Travelling expenses, hotel, split gate receipts with away team etc. For me this is why we have no home match.

Nah, if that was the genuine reason the club wouldn't have promised home games. They would have spun a "South West tour" as the genuine intentions of preseason, which may not necessarily have been a bad thing. The truth is the club proper fudged this one and are now only maybe having the one home game.

This is the first time i can remember Argyle not having a home pre season friendly, Jimmy and his Merry men could not run a bath let alone a football club.

The malaise continues. I cannot remember if we have ever had a manager walk away with time on his contract and no job to go to. Says it all about the esprit de corps at the club. Pre season is important setting the scene and getting the industry talking. I remember Warnock waxing lyrical when Chelsea? came down mid week and enthusing on the friendly big crowd. This club just doesn't have the leadership. Adams does sound a breath of fresh air but he has got his work cut out with all the in house crap

Pre season is all about fitness............especially when we lose

I disagree. It's all about setting out your stall and intent, getting the new players feeling as one. Anyone can get fit, bouncing around a football pitch.The 'getting fit' ruse is for also rans and 'trade'.

John Hawkins wrote:

I disagree. It's all about setting out your stall and intent, getting the new players feeling as one. Anyone can get fit, bouncing around a football pitch.The 'getting fit' ruse is for also rans and 'trade'.

Eh, that was my point.

Sir Francis Drake wrote:

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Basically no home pre-season friendly because nobody thought to arrange opposition.

(Although I paraphrase I am not making this up.)

P155 poor, but not here to wind you up, if you fancy it we have Bournemouth, Sheffield United and a Brazilian team at home, surely your lot could rope one of them in to a game at HP?

Les Miserable wrote:

Pre season is all about fitness............especially when we lose

win lose or draw its all about prep work

Sorry about that Les. Only saw the first bit of your post on this stupid new phone.

John Hawkins wrote:

Sorry about that  Les. Only saw the first bit of your post on this stupid new phone.

I did read somewhere that either Bristol City or Coventry City were possibles for a home friendly.

Not bad choices if they were to happen. If say, it was Bristol City, that would surely attract 5-6,000. Of course, you would have to have the police on hand due to the history between Argyle fans and Bristol City fans.

Les Miserable wrote:

Pre season is all about fitness............especially when we lose

God, could you imagine the views on here should Argyle lose to some of these 'minnow' teams.

It's just another example how piss poor the club is being run again by the reluctant one..Shocking..football club cant even arrange a kickabout for christ sake..this nightmare just gets worse & worse

VillageGreen wrote:

Les Miserable wrote:

Pre season is all about fitness............especially when we lose

God, could you imagine the views on here should Argyle lose to some of these 'minnow' teams.

if we dont "hammer" these minnow teams can you imagine the views on here aswell

Tgwu wrote:

What about AFT man the turnstiles, become stewards for the day, clean the ground after the game and cleans the owner's of the pispot web site seat in the director box.

In all probability, this is probably the offer Brent is waiting to hear.

The Trust is yesterday's chip paper and hasn't exactly succeeded much outside of it's gazebo and food bank.
If anyone is going to organise anything for nothing, I'm sure the club's official online fan club will be champing at the bit. I understand they're continuing to try and take over the commercial and pr side of the club as we speak. Never known the club so divided.
I would imagine the likes of Brent would prefer to keep the sweeping out of Summer spiders to the last possible moment. Why add to your own costs when other clubs ate willing to take up the slack. I don't believe this home friendly thing has anything to do with Sheridan. I didn't like his demeanour, but he did a reasonable job considering the circumstances. And any club manager that gets up the nose of The Chris(t) and the grist is all right by me

He's eloquent, he's back, his name is Rodney..?