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quote="hairy j ("modus operandi" means "motive" ).



No it doesn't.

Who north of Exeter knows where Plymouth is - let alone whether it has an airport.

Dingle wrote:

Who north of Exeter knows where Plymouth is - let alone whether it has an airport.

Well Gillfoyle and Ridsdale, they are still holidaying on their involvement with PAFC.

Come on Dingle,

everybody must have seen Carol Kirkwood pointing at a weather map on the BBC. Or is everybody looking at something else?

mcfry wrote:

Drifting back to the Rotherham story, didn't they know we don't have an airport

Heh heh heh !

General consensus is that it had little to do with a failed business deal and far more to do with regular visits to the casino.

Yeah but the whole idea of someone arranging a flight to Plymouth for the match and there being no airport should of raised a few concerns

mcfry wrote:

Yeah but the whole idea of someone arranging a flight to Plymouth for the match and there being no airport should of raised a few concerns

i forgot all about that fact lol

thats another gem Plymouth City Council are ensuring plymouth remains in the dark ages with the move to close it.

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Just thought i'd bump this hillarious thread from ol' Porkie himself.

mcfry wrote:

Yeah but the whole idea of someone arranging a flight to Plymouth for the match and there being no airport should of raised a few concerns

I think they were arranging a flight from Doncaster to Exeter and were then training/ busing down the remainder.

It has been strongly hinted that Lee Mills (the organiser, not the place outside ivybridge) had quite a bad gambling habit.

Chemical Ali wrote:

mcfry wrote:

Yeah but the whole idea of someone arranging a flight to Plymouth for the match and there being no airport should of raised a few concerns

I think they were arranging a flight from Doncaster to Exeter and were then training/ busing down the remainder.

It has been strongly hinted that Lee Mills (the organiser, not the place outside ivybridge) had quite a bad gambling habit.

Reminds me a littel of that Girls Aloud concert that never happend a few years ago at newham festival. The bloke sold tickets yet never booked the act!

Chemical Ali wrote:

mcfry wrote:

Yeah but the whole idea of someone arranging a flight to Plymouth for the match and there being no airport should of raised a few concerns

I think they were arranging a flight from Doncaster to Exeter and were then training/ busing down the remainder.

It has been strongly hinted that Lee Mills (the organiser, not the place outside ivybridge) had quite a bad gambling habit.

I read through the topic (sad I know)
And I'm sorry but I couldn't find a tongue-in-cheek emoticon I'll also grab me coat on way out (couldn't resist)

Yea Man wrote:

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Just thought i'd bump this hillarious thread from ol' Porkie himself.

I'll not hear a bad word about that man and his family (insert current owners name here)

The current development plans really back up IJN's statement don't they

Yea Man wrote:

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Just thought i'd bump this hillarious thread from ol' Porkie himself.

Hilarious as always, Droly's piece at the back of that thread is really good and worth a read.

Lord Tisdale wrote:

mcfry wrote:

Drifting back to the Rotherham story, didn't they know we don't have an airport

Heh heh heh !

General consensus is that it had little to do with a failed business deal and far more to do with regular visits to the casino.

This is tautologous. (You started it..... )

'modus operandi' indeed! Educated wankers! ATD is full of them.

Yea Man wrote:

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Just thought i'd bump this hillarious thread from ol' Porkie himself.

Yes indeed. Just 3 months ago. Baba was really getting to them with his comments re fans involvement being via the AFT not brent's own boys group.
Cholwell wants to know what the AFT are doing, well now we now.
Will Brent keep his promises or is his idea of fans' representation, having a chat with his personal jamboys, the Deepthroat gang.

Babararacucudada wrote:
Might as well scrap PASB then, Tony, let the Trust do its job and everybody rally around it.

It's very strange that the Trust was 100% behind James Brent whilst he attempted to save the club but that Brent has been anything like 100% behind the Trust since. It's almost as though he saw how powerful a united fan base could be and has since done all he can to scupper any unity there once was. The first step was recruiting Chris Webb. Next came Deep Throat, and not even Lee Jameson is able to deny that Brent was involved as the 4th Deep Throater ~ and he should know. Then introduce PASB to do what the Trust was doing anyway.

I was there at the Guildhall, and you were too I recall, and Brent promised us openness and transparency; he promised us a club at the heart of the community; he promised us supporters at the heart of the club; he promised accountability.

To put the Trust at the heart of the club he is asking for £400k for a 20% stake with no seats on the board. Does that sound like a good offer to you? Does it sound even vaguely realistic? To me it looks like an offer so outrageously high that it was deliberately made knowing that it would fail and then he could say: "they turned down the offer".

The answer is easy. Apart from talking the talk he could walk the walk. Just give the 20% to the Trust along with 2 seats on the board.

"Openness, transparency, fans at the heart of the club and a club at the heart of the community" achieved at a stroke. No cost to him because the 20% isn't worth anything anyway and no loss of control because 80 beats 20 every time.

Everything he says he wants to do done and no PASB needed or involved.

Simple, really, isn't it!

Tony Cholwell wrote :
Its simple, the Trust in the past year have been virtually anonymous and their membership has gone backwards. To put the Trust at the heart of the club would be neither sensible or desirable.

On the one issue that is a clear objective, share ownership in the club, it has fudged the question and a year later do all members really know where the Trust stands? I think not. If they were serious about the offer they would have snapped JBs hand off, I understand why you would think a freebie was the answer but that says everything about the cost and nothing about the value.

But your contention of a united fan base as I have said on another thread is fallacious and with a "best" membership figure of 1300 and diminishing it can not be credible in its desire to represent all the fans.

For the past year it has been filled with "nice" people but suffers from lack of leadership, by its own decision it doesnt want one:) Nor does it have clear pathway for the future, and can't even report a simple reply from the club.

I am sure if JB thought the Trust was the single answer he would have taken strides to ensure that happened.

Is the PASB the answer? Maybe, maybe not as currently constituted but the Trust have every opportunity to turn it to their advantage and are doing so.

Lets come back in 12 months and see where we are, on all fronts, then:)

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"Even though i've put myself in self imposed exile".....

That lasted long

Yea Man wrote:

"Even though i've put myself in self imposed exile".....

That lasted long

The OP by nool, waxing lyrical about brent and his lovely family and how much he cares blah blah blah !

His property development proposals for HP don't match how much nool reckons 'he gets it'.

Brent must have spouted more bullshit in his reign as Chairman than the last three in a row did. If you add the jam boys offerings it is monumental! You only have to go back one year and they are saying he is not in it for the property, are they that thick they were duped by him? The mind boggles!

The whole thing was a huge scam, the bucket rattling, the sleepovers outside Home Par, the demonstration, the auctions, the letters, the emails, the phone calls........it was all just a huge scam to get Brent in the door so that he could add to his fortune. - If you put money into a bucket as I did, then you have assisted.

Ian, Chris & Peter have served their Club well, I'm sure they are proud people.

Meanwhile the fat lady hasn't sung yet and if there's one thing about football you can bank on, it's that it aint over until she does!

It will be time to pester those local Councillors soon and to keep a special eye on that Evans bloke!

GOB wrote:

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It will be time to pester those local Councillors soon and to keep a special eye on that Evans bloke!

There is one who is definitely on board and unhappy with Akkeron's proposals. Two others have expressed reservations. These are the three Pennycross councillors.

As for Tudor Evans - he doesn't respond - messages get passed on to the "appropriate department" and they don't reply. I know Peggy (I think) has said that as the plans haven't technically been submitted yet this may be the reason but some kind of response ought to have been possible.

On a similar subject, there has still been no response from Akkeron to two very straightforward questions posted on their HHP website. They have my name, email address and phone number. I don't know what they are waiting for .... maybe my photograph?

Don't expect anything Knecht, this scam is designed to provide positive perception, not to answer genuine questions!

I also know a Councillor that is firmly against and Evans will need to watch himself very closely in the future!

Just send them a photograph wearing one of your hall mark jumpers - that'll scare them into replying.

GOB wrote:

The whole thing was a huge scam, the bucket rattling, the sleepovers outside Home Par, the demonstration, the auctions, the letters, the emails, the phone calls........it was all just a huge scam to get Brent in the door so that he could add to his fortune. - If you put money into a bucket as I did, then you have assisted.

Ian, Chris & Peter have served their Club well, I'm sure they are proud people.

Meanwhile the fat lady hasn't sung yet and if there's one thing about football you can bank on, it's that it aint over until she does!

It will be time to pester those local Councillors soon and to keep a special eye on that Evans bloke!

Evans is already in the Brent camp as is the 'erald. The leading headline on the AFT proposal made that quite clear. When the plans go in we have 6 weeks to voice our objections, I can't see how we are going to get the plans changed TBH. We will need to object with a legal challenge that is relevant to planning law. The fact the Grandstand isn't big enough won't work, the councillors are probably the best bet, but and it's a big one, do they sit on the planning committee? They are the councillors that we need to lobby.

This is not just a development that will blight the football club, but one that will impact on the city for years to come. Aspirations to become the city of culture?

Iggy wrote:

GOB wrote:

The whole thing was a huge scam, the bucket rattling, the sleepovers outside Home Par, the demonstration, the auctions, the letters, the emails, the phone calls........it was all just a huge scam to get Brent in the door so that he could add to his fortune. - If you put money into a bucket as I did, then you have assisted.

Ian, Chris & Peter have served their Club well, I'm sure they are proud people.

Meanwhile the fat lady hasn't sung yet and if there's one thing about football you can bank on, it's that it aint over until she does!

It will be time to pester those local Councillors soon and to keep a special eye on that Evans bloke!

Evans is already in the Brent camp as is the 'erald. The leading headline on the AFT proposal made that quite clear. When the plans go in we have 6 weeks to voice our objections, I can't see how we are going to get the plans changed TBH. We will need to object with a legal challenge that is relevant to planning law. The fact the Grandstand isn't big enough won't work, the councillors are probably the best bet, but and it's a big one, do they sit on the planning committee? They are the councillors that we need to lobby.

If Brent refuses the new plans the only hope we have is to get enough people to lodge objections to the planning committee.