James Brent’s Pavilions & ice ring with an artist view

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This is not mention in the press release

James Brent’s as be given the Lease hold of the Pavilions for free and a £2,000 000 hand out to build the ice ring. not a bad days work.

brents takeover of plymouth continues...............

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Council leader Tudor Evans said: “These are hugely exciting plans and they will provide one of the biggest investments in Plymouth for years.

“The contract will not only enable FDL to invest in providing high quality sport and leisure facilities in Plymouth but also provide a welcome boost the regeneration of the West End of the city centre.


I thought building a new ice ring and a multi screen cinema around the west end of Town would be better then at Home Park

National and local governments across the Western world are just giving away assets to those private interests who have coined all the money during the great naughties property swindle... as if these people have any idea of how to manage anything other than their own interests.
As a ratepayer, I of course wish James Brent or any new operator every success in running the Pavillions ... only his future pricing and access policy will determine in my mind if the move down at Millbay will prove to be a good thing. As for his reported student accomodation desires down there, there are enough economic commentators in this country warning of this nightmarish blight of tax advantaged, under specified future housing that WILL be the overcrowded slums of the future with private companies charging HUGE maintenance costs. Those that don't get what's going on with the student accomodation thing will never get it, even when they are having to see their own children try and bring up their own families in these shoe boxes with next to no tenancy rights whatsoever.. that the country will regret big time, and the old 'hindsight' 'if only we knew' routine will be trotted out big time, just like the Contingency bunch up at HP keep trotting it out for any argument raised against their faltering logic. how long will it be before that cabal get their buckets out to ask for contributions to build Plymouth's own Carn Brea monument up at the Blockhouse in praise of James Brent, the new squire, down on earth, telling us how it is.

I can't wait to see how successful Tudor Evans will be in his desire to turn over the madness of the incinerator in the dockyard. Toothless and hopeles ... you get the city you deserve..

Who owns the car park at Home Park?

Isn't the whole area getting close to being overdeveloped? I think a ice rink to support a national league side has to be 26 by 61 metres with all the ancillary stuff on top of that.

Does this put pay to any notion of student housing at Home Park?

The whole deal is more about the land around the Pavillions and developing that than the new ice rink.

Penz has it spot on, the thing that Govt of both hues are interested in keeping people with money happy.

The council bailed out the football club and appear to have been left with a rather valueless field with Brent keeping all the valuable bits himself. In return Brent pretends to be in interested in he peasants soccer team.

The whole thing is short termist in the extreme as I've precisely no idea who all these leisure facilities are supposed to cater to. The government is currently in the process of blaming poverty on the poor, illness on the sick and poor housing on the poorly housed. So the poor are simply going to get much poorer, In the midst of all this, the middle classes have been frightened into tightening their belts and spending less.

Dougie wrote:

Who owns the car park at Home Park?

Isn't the whole area getting close to being overdeveloped? I think a ice rink to support a national league side has to be 26 by 61 metres with all the ancillary stuff on top of that.

Does this put pay to any notion of student housing at Home Park?

The whole deal is more about the land around the Pavillions and developing that than the new ice rink.

I may have missed it, but have they actually said as a statement, what this 'International Standard' ice rink will be used for?

WTF does 'International Standard' mean, in terms of ice rinks?

It's like spending 46 million on a sports centre and bragging that one of the centre-pieces you have, is a 'climbing wall'. Yeah, cos' that's what the Plymouth public have been crying out for all these years - a f*cking climbing wall.

Student accomodation in the park was never a starter, and when Brent confirmed his interest of that stuff down at millbay, I was finally relieved after the ludicrous Todd plans that might have got through had Putin not spoiled the NWO's party.
The one worrying thing for me in possible developments at the park is what uses this 'rink' will be put to. If it is envisaged to become a mini boozing Pavillions, as most of these arena developments are, that could be a problem, and very controversial. I like my music venues more than most, but a park is not the place for them, and I take Brent at his word when he says he has the community's sensibilities at heart. We shall see. The green taverner thing and leasing property up at Higher HP in all this might be interesting as some sort of pseudo charity nonsense and might be trailed as reason enough to open the beer barrels 24/7 in a hitherto pleasant civic park. And all of this under the new planning directions coming in where change of use is to become the norm, not the exception.
Surely we've seen enough of Blair's enboozing of vast swathes of our cities under the initial guise of eateries that never pay their way. Now we're seeing clothes shop open, turn to coffee shops, then cakes, and then get the beer down yer neck. Anybody seen the transformation of North Hill and Mutley in the last 15 years ?... and 3/4 of these premeses are 3/4 empty. It's a nonsense with cultural price tags down the line..

Is Cottage Field scheduled for development under these new plans?

Where is there specific mention (as opposed to Argyle myth) of a cinema.

Where will people attending these leisure facilities park. During the daytime, the main carpark is packed with park and ride and the new car park attached to the Life Centre is usually at least 75% full most times.

Not to mention the nightmare traffic conditions already on Outland Road (Plymouth's own M25).

I wish brent would get involved with the airport at plymouth. this would help us all in the long run.

Dingle wrote:

Is Cottage Field scheduled for development under these new plans?

Where is there specific mention (as opposed to Argyle myth) of a cinema.

Where will people attending these leisure facilities park. During the daytime, the main carpark is packed with park and ride and the new car park attached to the Life Centre is usually at least 75% full most times.

Not to mention the nightmare traffic conditions already on Outland Road (Plymouth's own M25).

I was told by sources a cinema is in the mix

To build a chargeable car park under the mix complex

The only cog that in the way is that they cannot agree on, is how to reach the new car park

A artist view of the new ice ring and Pavilion





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Bring back Millbay station.And the arches.

So the second pic shows the first view of the new grandstand. Cantilever a new roof out from the back wall of all the new developments, put in the tiered seating with changing rooms and offices underneath and link through to the combined revenue generating hospitality functions shared with (and owned by) the privately owned ice rink...or is that too cynical by half.