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PostSubject: Tory Party Corruption    Tory Party Corruption  EmptySat Jul 09, 2022 10:30 am

Hugh Midde wrote:
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[The fact that ex-tories are slamming the current regieme doesn't make them "lefty inclined shysters" (your words) it just indicates how incompetent and extreme the current government are that even some lifelong Tories are starting to back away from them. The bottom line is that the senior figures in the BBC are stacked with people who have connections with the Conservative party. Many of them may well be anti Brexit, but they are still Tories.

I wouldn't care much about what the Queen thinks about who is PM. Her and her family will be fine whoever is in power, as long as they can keep themselves away from any more teenage girls or Jimmy Savile types. Either Rayner or Starmer, imperfect as they are, would be better than the current lot of criminals who are running the country. Until we get a PR voting system we are going to be stuck with selecting the lesser of two evils.

Socialising wasn't allowed, but work events were. The police's opinion is that there wasn't a case to answer for that instance because it was a 'work event' - the same thing opinion they gave for Johnson's garden party 'work event' which was the first one to appear in the news. Unfortunately for nbr 10, it's since become evdent there was a host of other parties that went on which clearly weren't work events, hence the fines being dished out.

For a start, the Tory that buggered the ship Was Chris Patten who failed to oversee such programmes as these going out - and the left wing shysters responsible for their content. The fact that the BBC later apologised kinda upholds my point of view.

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Andrew Marr (who was a Trotskyite in his youth) described the BBC's latest intake of talent - scroll down to the paragraph headed: The BBC broadcaster Andrew Marr.....

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BBC still not biased? Be sure to checkout the red writing.....

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Meanwhile do you agree that the Beeb is still pocketing EU cash ?

As for the infamous party....

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Been offline for a while, ut in light of recent events, thought I'd revisit this thread.

The politics.co.uk link pretty much confirms the BBC right wing bias with multiple examples of links with, or bias towards the conservative party. Your evidence is one quote form Andrew Marr, seemingly complaining about there being too many young non-white people in his work place. Easier enough to find alternative quotes on BBC performance
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The BBC may have a pro-EU bias, but thats not the same thing as a left-wing bias, after all plenty of Tory MPs were /are Pro EU, and plenty of Labour ones were pro-Brexit. Interestingly the Daily Mail Editor is also keen on taking EU cash, although that never seems to get mentioned when his paper is complaining about EU Subsidies.
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Don't like clicking on links to the blogs from professional drink driver Paul Staines (Guido Fawkes), however since you posted them I had a look and his main complaint seems to be that the BBC news occasionally features members of the public who are Labour party members. As Labour has a membership of around 500k, it's always going to be likely that some 'talking heads' are going to be labour party members. Also they are going up in a debate against a Tory MP, so it's not as if they were just given free reign without the Tories having a right to reply (also surely an MP should be better at debating than a member of the public). THe key thing for this though is that the concern is never pointed in the opposite direction.  Does Paul Staines also complain when Tory party members appear, or does he not check the status of people who agree with him? The BBC, and other media outlets, regularly quote or interview people from the Adam Smith Institute, the Central for Policy Studies and the Institute of Economic affairs, but never mention that these official sounding organisations are actually run by members or ex-members of the conservative party and have opaque funding that often seems to come from large corporations. These are presented as impartial 'think tanks' but are anything but.

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Lets face it, the Conservative party knew they were in for a kicking at the local elections, and were forcing the police to re-open the case in a desparate attempt to take the focus away from what the Tories were up to.
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PostSubject: Re: Tory Party Corruption    Tory Party Corruption  EmptySat Jul 09, 2022 10:57 am

Sadly the Tories are "up to" their usual games of thrones, same as the Labour party will be in f they get a sniff of power. The country is drifting along rudderless whilst the Tories all stab each other in the back again and again, whilst the right wing "socialists" will be worrying that the Corbynistas might be gaining strength again so will be plotting against them again.
What worries me now is that Boris had a mandate from 14m people to run the country yet when one of the Lanisters take over they will have none and I can see a GE being called and then don't be surprised with a Starmer/Sturgeon coalition, anyone that buys into this circus needs their fooking head examining.
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PostSubject: Re: Tory Party Corruption    Tory Party Corruption  EmptySun Jul 10, 2022 10:12 am

I see Tom Tugendhat has an EU passport because of his French Mother, lol, Never Trust A Tory.
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PostSubject: Re: Tory Party Corruption    Tory Party Corruption  EmptySun Jul 10, 2022 11:07 am

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I see Tom Tugendhat has an EU passport because of his French Mother, lol, Never Trust A Tory.

You need to get over it bhey.
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PostSubject: Re: Tory Party Corruption    Tory Party Corruption  EmptySun Jul 10, 2022 11:48 am

What? The border?
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PostSubject: Re: Tory Party Corruption    Tory Party Corruption  EmptySun Jul 10, 2022 12:30 pm

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I see Tom Tugendhat has an EU passport because of his French Mother, lol, Never Trust A Tory.


.......and wife.
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seadog wrote:
What? The border?

2016.
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PostSubject: Re: Tory Party Corruption    Tory Party Corruption  EmptySun Jul 10, 2022 3:04 pm

Ben Wallace would make a good leader so some commentators say.

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PostSubject: Re: Tory Party Corruption    Tory Party Corruption  EmptySun Jul 10, 2022 11:06 pm

I wonder what nationality his EU passport is?
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PostSubject: Re: Tory Party Corruption    Tory Party Corruption  EmptyMon Jul 11, 2022 6:37 am

seadog wrote:
I wonder what nationality his EU passport is?

Who really cares? I mean is it important?
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PostSubject: Re: Tory Party Corruption    Tory Party Corruption  EmptyMon Jul 11, 2022 2:39 pm

VillageGreen wrote:
Ben Wallace would make a good leader so some commentators say.



He's ruled himself out and I can't blame him. The rest of the field are a rag bag of nutcases, no hopers and the venal. 

Favourite so far is Sunak who is some way out in front in terms of nominations. He's about the only one not falling over himself to offer unfunded tax cuts and breaking international law. His resignation shortly after Javids was probably the one that ended Johnsons time in office not that there was much trust between the two before that with Johnson's team helping leaking his family tax affairs to the press, a move that alongside being issued a FPN for partygate was thought to have ended his ambitions. Not convinced he wants it, his wife is richer than the Queen so he doesn't need to strife certainly. Beyond that there's not a hell of a lot to report, famous during the pandemic for paying everyone's wages and encouraging everyone to pile into restaurants thus hastening lockdown 2, for having soft focus pictures taken himself with his jacket off and pretending to own a Ford Kia.

Penny Mordaunt is in 2nd place so far, looks like an 80's power ballad singer. Her leadership pitch video featured Oscar Pistorius and a bunch of people that refused her permission to appear in it. From Portsmouth.

Tom Tughenhat occupyies 3rd place out of all of them he looks the most like a normal human being but he supported remain so he can forget it 

Liz Truss comes in next but as she was slightly late to the party so might get a few more delcaring for her. Described bu Dominic Cummings as being “as close to properly crackers” as anybody he had met in parliament" and "demented" by former Aussie PM Paul Keating, but has that "Jolly hockeysticks" vibe that the grassroots lap up.


The rest
Zahawi - Became chancellor having failed utterly to read the room and made himself look a right tit
Badenoch - Anti woke, Brexit, tax cuts yadda yadda
Patel - Nasty and incompetent
Hunt - Lost in run-offf to Johnson last time, secret weapon to woo the hard right is *checks note Esther McVey 
Braverman - ERG candidate, counter weight to pull the field to the Right. A Very very stupid human being
Javid  - Surpised not attracted more nominations, not a great communicator and maybe had his run in 2019
Shapps - Used by Johnson when the morning media rounds was particular dauting as he would basically argue black is white
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PostSubject: Re: Tory Party Corruption    Tory Party Corruption  EmptyMon Jul 11, 2022 4:41 pm

Love looking at the punditry from your lot,
Voted out, mental,
Voted out, Lunatic...... cheers cheers cheers
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No ‘voted remain- loser’ ?

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PostSubject: Re: Tory Party Corruption    Tory Party Corruption  EmptyTue Jul 12, 2022 1:18 pm

Sunak way out in front imo. Seems that party gate only applied to Boris not Rishi and despite him being chancellor whilst overseeing us in massive borrowing and high taxes he is the man to lead us out of it. Like Gove he is a slippery snake who stabbed his boss in the back to further his own career, he hasn't got a clue about any of the struggles we all face and never will do. Is all his appointment would do is show the Tories up for the slippery back stabbing bastards they are, can't say you weren't all warned but then this is not a democratic process, not that most of you like them anyway.
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PostSubject: Re: Tory Party Corruption    Tory Party Corruption  EmptyTue Jul 12, 2022 1:29 pm

Earwegoagain wrote:
Love looking at the punditry from your lot,
Voted out, mental,
Voted out, Lunatic...... cheers cheers cheers



Liz Truss was described as "Crackers" by Dominic Cummings. You know Dominic Cummings, Vote Leave head honcho?

Nor only that SHE LITERALLY CAMPAIGNED FOR REMAIN. She only changed her mind when it suited her
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PostSubject: Re: Tory Party Corruption    Tory Party Corruption  EmptyTue Jul 12, 2022 2:04 pm

Earwegoagain wrote:
Sunak way out in front imo. Seems that party gate only applied to Boris not Rishi and despite him being chancellor whilst overseeing us in massive borrowing and high taxes he is the man to lead us out of it. Like Gove he is a slippery snake who stabbed his boss in the back to further his own career, he hasn't got a clue about any of the struggles we all face and never will do. Is all his appointment would do is show the Tories up for the slippery back stabbing bastards they are, can't say you weren't all warned but then this is not a democratic process, not that most of you like them anyway.


It doesn't work that way. The process you are seeing now is to get a number of candidates onto a ballot sheet which are whittled down until 2 are left standing who will then face a ballot of party members.

Sunak (FYI voted leave) will almost certainly make the final run off as he has the broad support, although only half the party has come out for a particular candidate so far, his resignation was the one that set things in motion, poor Boris not like he hasn't ever done that.  

As to who faces him, much will depend on who is best seen to stop Rishi, whether they can collude or whether he ends up facing Mordaunt who could beat him.
 or Tugendhat who probably wouyldnt.  Truss the Demented Remain voter seems to be picking up most of the Boris loyalist rump, not clear if she'll pick up the ERG support. 

Overall winner will depend on whether the members want unfunded tax cuts , to give you some idea of cost the cut proposed by Javid is equal to the entire defence budget.
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PostSubject: Re: Tory Party Corruption    Tory Party Corruption  EmptyTue Jul 12, 2022 3:00 pm

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Overall winner will depend on whether the members want unfunded tax cuts , to give you some idea of cost the cut proposed by Javid is equal to the entire defence budget.

But surely not more than the cost of replacement seats, car park repairs and a new stadium tv?
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PostSubject: Re: Tory Party Corruption    Tory Party Corruption  EmptyTue Jul 12, 2022 5:15 pm

PlymptonPilgrim wrote:
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Overall winner will depend on whether the members want unfunded tax cuts , to give you some idea of cost the cut proposed by Javid is equal to the entire defence budget.

But surely not more than the cost of replacement seats, car park repairs and a new stadium tv?

Enough to pay Camara whatever his agent is asking on a 5 year i reckon
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PostSubject: Re: Tory Party Corruption    Tory Party Corruption  EmptyTue Jul 12, 2022 7:14 pm

PlymptonPilgrim wrote:
Clodagh Rubbish wrote:


Overall winner will depend on whether the members want unfunded tax cuts , to give you some idea of cost the cut proposed by Javid is equal to the entire defence budget.

But surely not more than the cost of replacement seats, car park repairs and a new stadium tv?

Difference is that that is money the club already has, UK is skinter than Exeter.
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PostSubject: Re: Tory Party Corruption    Tory Party Corruption  EmptyTue Jul 12, 2022 9:53 pm

Javid pulls out at the last minute and probably lands himself a nice job from the winner. What a joke this is.
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PostSubject: Re: Tory Party Corruption    Tory Party Corruption  EmptyFri Jul 15, 2022 2:49 pm

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Javid pulls out at the last minute and probably lands himself a nice job from the winner. What a joke this is.

I think Javid's front line political career is largely finished. He's had numerous jobs across the cabinet and not pulled up any trees in any. Sunak might give him something to shut him up like health.

However if you think thats bad, wait until you what they are doing to Penny Mordaunt. Easily the most popular of the 5 left yet doesn't owe her popularity to any particular faction so they are trying to detroy her
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PostSubject: Re: Tory Party Corruption    Tory Party Corruption  EmptyFri Jul 15, 2022 4:22 pm

Clodagh Rubbish wrote:
Earwegoagain wrote:
Javid pulls out at the last minute and probably lands himself a nice job from the winner. What a joke this is.

I think Javid's front line political career is largely finished. He's had numerous jobs across the cabinet and not pulled up any trees in any. Sunak might give him something to shut him up like health.

However if you think thats bad, wait until you what they are doing to Penny Mordaunt. Easily the most popular of the 5 left yet doesn't owe her popularity to any particular faction so they are trying to detroy her

Believe me I had noticed, but it's what the Tories and Labour do all the time it's what our parliamentary system is built on and the proles lap it up. Personally I think she's the lesser of the evils left not that they will ask me about it.
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PostSubject: Re: Tory Party Corruption    Tory Party Corruption  EmptyFri Jul 15, 2022 8:46 pm

All the candidates sucked tonight i wouldn't vote for any of them if i were a party member. Labour have never had a better opportunity to win an election if the get their act together whoever wins this vote for tory leader wont be PM for long.
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PostSubject: Re: Tory Party Corruption    Tory Party Corruption  EmptyFri Jul 15, 2022 11:25 pm

Who's running the country whilst Games of Thrones is on repeat?
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