WBA in for Shoe E?

This thread has made the WA unnofiffial forum as view from Argyle. Pasoti is dead in the water.

Alan Nixon is the guy breaking the story of WBA being interested in Schumacher and isnt often wrong on matters. If he goes it would be a huge shame but im not going to deny him the opportunity to manage a bigger club even if i do believe its too soon in his career to be wanting a job like that where the chances of being sacked after a short spell are very high its his call at the end of the day.

if Darrren Ferguson is the answer a like for like manager who will continue attacking football that we have seen isnt the answer btw.

Angry wrote:

Alan Nixon is the guy breaking the story of WBA being interested in Schumacher and isnt often wrong on matters. If he goes it would be a huge shame but im not going to deny him the opportunity to manage a bigger club even if i do believe its too soon in his career to be wanting a job like that where the chances of being sacked after a short spell are very high its his call at the end of the day.

if Darrren Ferguson is the answer a like for like manager who will continue attacking football that we have seen isnt the answer btw.

Hope he stays at Argyle and continues to learn his trade here. The WBA job is a big step up and like you say, he could be sacked if things do not work out well over a given time.

It is only Shuey and his family that will make the call and should he decide to have a crack at WBA, then so be it. We thank him, wish him well and move on.

The reality is that sustainable football is bollocks until we have someone matching the cash other owners are willing to put in, we are a feeder club for the upper echelons and that is something we have always been and always will be. It's hard to get depressed about it, I thought we may get to January and hoped to get to the end of the season but we are where we are in the food chain, suck it up guys.
Like I said the other day take what Schuey said with a pinch of salt he would be mental to turn this job down if offered.

It's on quite a few news sites now and SkyBet have Schumacher as 6/4 favourite.  Looks like he's gone. FFS why is it never McKenna at Ipswich or Darren Moore at SWFC or Cowley at Pompey?  Argo are such easy pickings for any club higher up the leagues.  This is why we can never be a Championship club.

Freathy wrote:

It's on quite a few news sites now and SkyBet have Schumacher as 6/4 favourite.  Looks like he's gone. FFS why is it never McKenna at Ipswich or Darren Moore at SWFC or Cowley at Pompey?  Argo are such easy pickings for any club higher up the leagues.  This is why we can never be a Championship club.

Can't argue with that, time to dip into the millions in the bank and offer Shoe E a substantial pay rise or the sad old cycle looks set to continue.

Yup back the bloke now.

Pretty shit sunday, losing Sparksy then our manager going

Tragedy if he goes IMO but WBA are a far bigger Club than PNE so he may well see it as a route to the Premiership

Millions sat in the back while he's working with a tight budget must be an influence on his decision.


Losing a Manager due (at least in part) to refusal to spend available money puts SH firmly in the "shit owner" category,

Les Miserable wrote:

Freathy wrote:

It's on quite a few news sites now and SkyBet have Schumacher as 6/4 favourite.  Looks like he's gone. FFS why is it never McKenna at Ipswich or Darren Moore at SWFC or Cowley at Pompey?  Argo are such easy pickings for any club higher up the leagues.  This is why we can never be a Championship club.

Can't argue with that, time to dip into the millions in the bank and offer Shoe E a substantial pay rise or the sad old cycle looks set to continue.

This is it. Unlike Lowe there is a lot for Shuey to think about. The obvious thing is he’s in charge of a team top of the league, but a huge factor could well be family - who love it here. Kids settled in and love it at Compton school. Give him a decent contract improvement offer and there’d be a decision to make.

Czarcasm wrote:

Les Miserable wrote:

Freathy wrote:

It's on quite a few news sites now and SkyBet have Schumacher as 6/4 favourite.  Looks like he's gone. FFS why is it never McKenna at Ipswich or Darren Moore at SWFC or Cowley at Pompey?  Argo are such easy pickings for any club higher up the leagues.  This is why we can never be a Championship club.

Can't argue with that, time to dip into the millions in the bank and offer Shoe E a substantial pay rise or the sad old cycle looks set to continue.

This is it. Unlike Lowe there is a lot for Shuey to think about. The obvious thing is he’s in charge of a team top of the league, but a huge factor could well be family - who love it here. Kids settled in and love it at Compton school. Give him a decent contract improvement offer and there’d be a decision to make.

Yep, being top of the league, happy, settled, content family etc etc etc is great, but the overriding factor in nearly every walk of life, and particularly football is money. If Albion or any other 'bigger' club offer Shoe E a contract that will set him and his family right for life in financial terms who could honestly blame him for strongly considering it? On the flip side and perhaps for the first time in our history PAFC could probably afford to also offer the manager something at least approaching long term financial security in an attempt to retain his services if they really wanted to, I predict a few sleepless nights for the Halletts.

Just been reading the views on one or two Baggie sites. Some saying it is a big risk, while others saying it would be a good move by WBA in moving for the up and coming, ambitious Shuey.

Many mentioned that Shuey has a good set up here and should he take the job, would he take some of that set up with him to WBA.

Well, we will all know the answer real soon !!

Czarcasm wrote:

Les Miserable wrote:

Freathy wrote:

It's on quite a few news sites now and SkyBet have Schumacher as 6/4 favourite.  Looks like he's gone. FFS why is it never McKenna at Ipswich or Darren Moore at SWFC or Cowley at Pompey?  Argo are such easy pickings for any club higher up the leagues.  This is why we can never be a Championship club.

Can't argue with that, time to dip into the millions in the bank and offer Shoe E a substantial pay rise or the sad old cycle looks set to continue.

This is it. Unlike Lowe there is a lot for Shuey to think about. The obvious thing is he’s in charge of a team top of the league, but a huge factor could well be family - who love it here. Kids settled in and love it at Compton school. Give him a decent contract improvement offer and there’d be a decision to make.

Seriously doubt any of that would outweigh the opportunity to manage a big club with loads of history in a higher division for 3 or 4 times the wages. WBA are only 8 points off the play-off places in a really tight division. It's still only quarter of the way through the season and there's every chance he could get them to the play-offs and into the Premier League. He would be insane to turn this opportunity down. He will absolutely jump at this chance and I fully expect him to be unveiled as WBA manager as early as tomorrow.

Les Miserable wrote:

Czarcasm wrote:

Les Miserable wrote:

Freathy wrote:

It's on quite a few news sites now and SkyBet have Schumacher as 6/4 favourite.  Looks like he's gone. FFS why is it never McKenna at Ipswich or Darren Moore at SWFC or Cowley at Pompey?  Argo are such easy pickings for any club higher up the leagues.  This is why we can never be a Championship club.

Can't argue with that, time to dip into the millions in the bank and offer Shoe E a substantial pay rise or the sad old cycle looks set to continue.

This is it. Unlike Lowe there is a lot for Shuey to think about. The obvious thing is he’s in charge of a team top of the league, but a huge factor could well be family - who love it here. Kids settled in and love it at Compton school. Give him a decent contract improvement offer and there’d be a decision to make.

Yep, being top of the league, happy, settled, content family etc etc etc is great, but the overriding factor in nearly every walk of life, and particularly football is money. If Albion or any other 'bigger' club offer Shoe E a contract that will set him and his family right for life in financial terms who could honestly blame him for strongly considering it? On the flip side and perhaps for the first time in our history PAFC could probably afford to also offer the manager something at least approaching long term financial security in an attempt to retain his services if they really wanted to, I predict a few sleepless nights for the Halletts.

Sleepless nights? Lol. He will be wearing his calculator batteries out wondering what infrastructure he could spend the compo on. I don't blame Shoey one bit as money aside he knows that Sigh will likely sell the team from under him at some point anyway. Players like Azaz and Cosgrove are out of his league now but at WBA he could probably sign them all in January.
Shoey was the cheap solution that worked out imo but if he goes Hallett needs to back the fans that show the support and get a decent manager in on a realistic salary or move over and let someone else have a go. It would be a massive loss if we didn't get promoted with this team.

Freathy wrote:

Czarcasm wrote:

Les Miserable wrote:

Freathy wrote:

It's on quite a few news sites now and SkyBet have Schumacher as 6/4 favourite.  Looks like he's gone. FFS why is it never McKenna at Ipswich or Darren Moore at SWFC or Cowley at Pompey?  Argo are such easy pickings for any club higher up the leagues.  This is why we can never be a Championship club.

Can't argue with that, time to dip into the millions in the bank and offer Shoe E a substantial pay rise or the sad old cycle looks set to continue.

This is it. Unlike Lowe there is a lot for Shuey to think about. The obvious thing is he’s in charge of a team top of the league, but a huge factor could well be family - who love it here. Kids settled in and love it at Compton school. Give him a decent contract improvement offer and there’d be a decision to make.

Seriously doubt any of that would outweigh the opportunity to manage a big club with loads of history in a higher division for 3 or 4 times the wages.  WBA are only 8 points off the play-off places in a really tight division. It's still only quarter of the way through the season and there's every chance he could get them to the play-offs and into the Premier League.  He would be insane to turn this opportunity down.  He will absolutely jump at this chance and I fully expect him to be unveiled as WBA manager as early as tomorrow.

Zackly, if I knew him I'd be saying take the job. Even if he fails he would be set for life really.

Grovehill wrote:

Tragedy if he goes IMO but WBA are a far bigger Club than PNE so he may well see it as a route to the Premiership

Millions sat in the back while he's working with a tight budget must be an influence on his decision.


Losing a Manager  due  (at least in part) to refusal to spend available money  puts SH  firmly in the "shit owner" category,  

so for arguments sake if Hallet was to say to schuey i'll double your wages and give your funds in January to secure promotion and more in the summer would that makes us a bigger club or more attractive a proposal than WBA? sadly it wouldnt as WBA could still offer him more than that.

I want schuey to stay and get that offer i mentioned from Hallet regardless to WBA interest but at the sametime i cant be mad if schuey is offered and accepts the job. Sad yes but mad no.

Freathy wrote:

Czarcasm wrote:

Les Miserable wrote:

Freathy wrote:

It's on quite a few news sites now and SkyBet have Schumacher as 6/4 favourite.  Looks like he's gone. FFS why is it never McKenna at Ipswich or Darren Moore at SWFC or Cowley at Pompey?  Argo are such easy pickings for any club higher up the leagues.  This is why we can never be a Championship club.

Can't argue with that, time to dip into the millions in the bank and offer Shoe E a substantial pay rise or the sad old cycle looks set to continue.

This is it. Unlike Lowe there is a lot for Shuey to think about. The obvious thing is he’s in charge of a team top of the league, but a huge factor could well be family - who love it here. Kids settled in and love it at Compton school. Give him a decent contract improvement offer and there’d be a decision to make.

Seriously doubt any of that would outweigh the opportunity to manage a big club with loads of history in a higher division for 3 or 4 times the wages.  WBA are only 8 points off the play-off places in a really tight division. It's still only quarter of the way through the season and there's every chance he could get them to the play-offs and into the Premier League.  He would be insane to turn this opportunity down.  He will absolutely jump at this chance and I fully expect him to be unveiled as WBA manager as early as tomorrow.

And Darren Ferguson appointed new Argyle manager on Tuesday

Les Miserable wrote:

Czarcasm wrote:

Les Miserable wrote:

Freathy wrote:

It's on quite a few news sites now and SkyBet have Schumacher as 6/4 favourite.  Looks like he's gone. FFS why is it never McKenna at Ipswich or Darren Moore at SWFC or Cowley at Pompey?  Argo are such easy pickings for any club higher up the leagues.  This is why we can never be a Championship club.

Can't argue with that, time to dip into the millions in the bank and offer Shoe E a substantial pay rise or the sad old cycle looks set to continue.

This is it. Unlike Lowe there is a lot for Shuey to think about. The obvious thing is he’s in charge of a team top of the league, but a huge factor could well be family - who love it here. Kids settled in and love it at Compton school. Give him a decent contract improvement offer and there’d be a decision to make.

Yep, being top of the league, happy, settled, content family etc etc etc is great, but the overriding factor in nearly every walk of life, and particularly football is money. If Albion or any other 'bigger' club offer Shoe E a contract that will set him and his family right for life in financial terms who could honestly blame him for strongly considering it? On the flip side and perhaps for the first time in our history PAFC could probably afford to also offer the manager something at least approaching long term financial security in an attempt to retain his services if they really wanted to, I predict a few sleepless nights for the Halletts.

Yep totally agree. Money will almost always be the biggest factor.

Tbh with whatever contract he signed initially, there should be room for a major improvement on that, which looking where we are in the league, would be deserved in its own right. You’d also like to think he’d look at the shit his mate is getting at Deepdale from the Preston fans too.

Bottom line is, will he throw away everything he has going on down here personally and professionally, for a big big pay hike? If it is just about the money, then you’d have to say yes. But hopefully there is enough going on behind the scenes to put forward a persuasive alternative to the glamour of the West Midlands.

Angry wrote:

Grovehill wrote:

Tragedy if he goes IMO but WBA are a far bigger Club than PNE so he may well see it as a route to the Premiership

Millions sat in the back while he's working with a tight budget must be an influence on his decision.


Losing a Manager  due  (at least in part) to refusal to spend available money  puts SH  firmly in the "shit owner" category,  

so for arguments sake if Hallet was to say to schuey i'll double your wages and give your funds in January to secure promotion and more in the summer would that makes us a bigger club or more attractive a proposal than WBA? sadly it wouldnt as WBA could still offer him more than that.

I want schuey to stay and get that offer i mentioned from Hallet regardless to WBA interest but at the sametime i cant be mad if schuey is offered and accepts the job. Sad yes but mad no.

Sometimes, money is not the be all and end all - wages wise.


Some folk really like the job they are doing and Shuey seems to be one of them.


Like I said on here, we will all know the answer very soon.

Czarcasm wrote:

Les Miserable wrote:

Czarcasm wrote:

Les Miserable wrote:

Freathy wrote:

It's on quite a few news sites now and SkyBet have Schumacher as 6/4 favourite.  Looks like he's gone. FFS why is it never McKenna at Ipswich or Darren Moore at SWFC or Cowley at Pompey?  Argo are such easy pickings for any club higher up the leagues.  This is why we can never be a Championship club.

Can't argue with that, time to dip into the millions in the bank and offer Shoe E a substantial pay rise or the sad old cycle looks set to continue.

This is it. Unlike Lowe there is a lot for Shuey to think about. The obvious thing is he’s in charge of a team top of the league, but a huge factor could well be family - who love it here. Kids settled in and love it at Compton school. Give him a decent contract improvement offer and there’d be a decision to make.

Yep, being top of the league, happy, settled, content family etc etc etc is great, but the overriding factor in nearly every walk of life, and particularly football is money. If Albion or any other 'bigger' club offer Shoe E a contract that will set him and his family right for life in financial terms who could honestly blame him for strongly considering it? On the flip side and perhaps for the first time in our history PAFC could probably afford to also offer the manager something at least approaching long term financial security in an attempt to retain his services if they really wanted to, I predict a few sleepless nights for the Halletts.

Yep totally agree. Money will almost always be the biggest factor.

Tbh with whatever contract he signed initially, there should be room for a major improvement on that, which looking where we are in the league, would be deserved in its own right. You’d also like to think he’d look at the shit his mate is getting at Deepdale from the Preston fans too.

Bottom line is, will he throw away everything he has going on down here personally and professionally, for a big big pay hike? If it is just about the money, then you’d have to say yes. But hopefully there is enough going on behind the scenes to put forward a persuasive alternative to the glamour of the West Midlands.  

Lowe getting s..t at Preston, well I never. Not that long back they were saying he was the bees knees.

VillageGreen wrote:

Angry wrote:

Grovehill wrote:

Tragedy if he goes IMO but WBA are a far bigger Club than PNE so he may well see it as a route to the Premiership

Millions sat in the back while he's working with a tight budget must be an influence on his decision.


Losing a Manager  due  (at least in part) to refusal to spend available money  puts SH  firmly in the "shit owner" category,  

so for arguments sake if Hallet was to say to schuey i'll double your wages and give your funds in January to secure promotion and more in the summer would that makes us a bigger club or more attractive a proposal than WBA? sadly it wouldnt as WBA could still offer him more than that.

I want schuey to stay and get that offer i mentioned from Hallet regardless to WBA interest but at the sametime i cant be mad if schuey is offered and accepts the job. Sad yes but mad no.

Sometimes, money is not the be all and end all - wages wise.


Some folk really like the job they are doing and Shuey seems to be one of them.


Like I said on here, we will all know the answer very soon.

we shall see but im not convinced it would be the case here

VillageGreen wrote:

Freathy wrote:

Czarcasm wrote:

Les Miserable wrote:

Freathy wrote:

It's on quite a few news sites now and SkyBet have Schumacher as 6/4 favourite.  Looks like he's gone. FFS why is it never McKenna at Ipswich or Darren Moore at SWFC or Cowley at Pompey?  Argo are such easy pickings for any club higher up the leagues.  This is why we can never be a Championship club.

Can't argue with that, time to dip into the millions in the bank and offer Shoe E a substantial pay rise or the sad old cycle looks set to continue.

This is it. Unlike Lowe there is a lot for Shuey to think about. The obvious thing is he’s in charge of a team top of the league, but a huge factor could well be family - who love it here. Kids settled in and love it at Compton school. Give him a decent contract improvement offer and there’d be a decision to make.

Seriously doubt any of that would outweigh the opportunity to manage a big club with loads of history in a higher division for 3 or 4 times the wages.  WBA are only 8 points off the play-off places in a really tight division. It's still only quarter of the way through the season and there's every chance he could get them to the play-offs and into the Premier League.  He would be insane to turn this opportunity down.  He will absolutely jump at this chance and I fully expect him to be unveiled as WBA manager as early as tomorrow.

And Darren Ferguson appointed new Argyle manager on Tuesday

Who knows? Perhaps! Maybe the club realised a few days ago Schuey was leaving and put in place things for a quick succession.  You do have to wonder why he was at MK Dons yesterday sat in Argo section of the DB.  There's a pic of him at MKD on GoS

Freathy wrote:

VillageGreen wrote:

Freathy wrote:

Czarcasm wrote:

Les Miserable wrote:

Freathy wrote:

It's on quite a few news sites now and SkyBet have Schumacher as 6/4 favourite.  Looks like he's gone. FFS why is it never McKenna at Ipswich or Darren Moore at SWFC or Cowley at Pompey?  Argo are such easy pickings for any club higher up the leagues.  This is why we can never be a Championship club.

Can't argue with that, time to dip into the millions in the bank and offer Shoe E a substantial pay rise or the sad old cycle looks set to continue.

This is it. Unlike Lowe there is a lot for Shuey to think about. The obvious thing is he’s in charge of a team top of the league, but a huge factor could well be family - who love it here. Kids settled in and love it at Compton school. Give him a decent contract improvement offer and there’d be a decision to make.

Seriously doubt any of that would outweigh the opportunity to manage a big club with loads of history in a higher division for 3 or 4 times the wages.  WBA are only 8 points off the play-off places in a really tight division. It's still only quarter of the way through the season and there's every chance he could get them to the play-offs and into the Premier League.  He would be insane to turn this opportunity down.  He will absolutely jump at this chance and I fully expect him to be unveiled as WBA manager as early as tomorrow.

And Darren Ferguson appointed new Argyle manager on Tuesday

Who knows? Perhaps! Maybe the club realised a few days ago Schuey was leaving and put in place things for a quick succession.  You do have to wonder why he was at MK Dons yesterday sat in Argo section of the DB.  There's a pic of him at MKD on GoS

If the club have lined him up then we may aswell accept we arent going for it this season despite where we are in the league.

Angry wrote:

Freathy wrote:

VillageGreen wrote:

Freathy wrote:

Czarcasm wrote:

Les Miserable wrote:

Freathy wrote:

It's on quite a few news sites now and SkyBet have Schumacher as 6/4 favourite.  Looks like he's gone. FFS why is it never McKenna at Ipswich or Darren Moore at SWFC or Cowley at Pompey?  Argo are such easy pickings for any club higher up the leagues.  This is why we can never be a Championship club.

Can't argue with that, time to dip into the millions in the bank and offer Shoe E a substantial pay rise or the sad old cycle looks set to continue.

This is it. Unlike Lowe there is a lot for Shuey to think about. The obvious thing is he’s in charge of a team top of the league, but a huge factor could well be family - who love it here. Kids settled in and love it at Compton school. Give him a decent contract improvement offer and there’d be a decision to make.

Seriously doubt any of that would outweigh the opportunity to manage a big club with loads of history in a higher division for 3 or 4 times the wages.  WBA are only 8 points off the play-off places in a really tight division. It's still only quarter of the way through the season and there's every chance he could get them to the play-offs and into the Premier League.  He would be insane to turn this opportunity down.  He will absolutely jump at this chance and I fully expect him to be unveiled as WBA manager as early as tomorrow.

And Darren Ferguson appointed new Argyle manager on Tuesday

Who knows? Perhaps! Maybe the club realised a few days ago Schuey was leaving and put in place things for a quick succession.  You do have to wonder why he was at MK Dons yesterday sat in Argo section of the DB.  There's a pic of him at MKD on GoS

If the club have lined him up then we may aswell accept we arent going for it this season despite where we are in the league.

I think we can forget any idea of promotion this season

Make schuey an improved offer to stay wba is a graveyard for managers do everything to keep him is my advice, if he leaves and fails which is highly likely giving the baggies record he will be back working for the show pony Lowe,