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Les Miserable
Posts : 7520 Join date : 2014-03-30
| Subject: WBA in for Shoe E? Mon Oct 10, 2022 10:56 am | |
| Just a rumour, to be expected though I suppose with him doing so well. Think this could have some legs, would be the kind of step up to suit both parties, hope not. |
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Savageandstrand
Posts : 78 Join date : 2022-07-12
| Subject: Re: WBA in for Shoe E? Mon Oct 10, 2022 11:04 am | |
| Danger of course is its not just Shuey The whole back up team from top to bottom will go if he does
Hallett needs to step up as in immediately and double his salary before the likes of WBA enter the picture and treble it |
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Earwegoagain
Posts : 12371 Join date : 2017-09-09
| Subject: Re: WBA in for Shoe E? Mon Oct 10, 2022 11:05 am | |
| I'm just really hoping that the promotion side doesn't get broken up until the seasons end, it is inevitable but we usually manage to get promoted before doing so. It's feckin lethal nowadays. |
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Earwegoagain
Posts : 12371 Join date : 2017-09-09
| Subject: Re: WBA in for Shoe E? Mon Oct 10, 2022 11:07 am | |
| - Savageandstrand wrote:
- Danger of course is its not just Shuey
The whole back up team from top to bottom will go if he does
Hallett needs to step up as in immediately and double his salary before the likes of WBA enter the picture and treble it Lol. I thought everyone else was all for a bit of business? Trouble is I bet they have posh toilets oop north. |
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Earwegoagain
Posts : 12371 Join date : 2017-09-09
| Subject: Re: WBA in for Shoe E? Mon Oct 10, 2022 11:21 am | |
| Shoey didn't make the odds list and Keane has just gone from 25/1 to 4/1 so someone has layer large on that. All I could think I'd regarding Shoey was this on Baggies unofficial. "It's time for a younger man at the helm with fresh, modern ideas and methods. No more dinosaurs. I also want someone who could be successful but would also grow with the club and so remain onboard longer than managers would typically. On that basis, I wouldn't want Dyche and probably not Carrick (who would use us as a stepping stone). I wouldn't expect Dyche to come anyway. I think Parker would be wary of coming here as he'll want to be as certain as he can be of his next job being a success, and he doesn't seem to like not having money to spend. I don't like managers who wear suits on the touchline anyway! Big Grin
Edwards would be risky but interesting and I wouldn't be averse. Jokanovic is in work at Dynamo Moscow, so we can forget him. Wilder wouldn't come as he knows he was deffed out by Lai previously. Corberan might be a good shout too. I wouldn't want Keane or Terry and absolutely no to Hughton and O'Neill.
If course, it all depends on how much money we have for the new incumbent and his choice of staff. If paying compensation is a possibility, I think we should be looking at the likes of Schumacher at Plymouth and Martin at Swansea." |
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Grovehill
Posts : 2306 Join date : 2012-01-24
| Subject: Re: WBA in for Shoe E? Mon Oct 10, 2022 12:11 pm | |
| Any manager at the top of a League one down from a Club with a vacancy will be looked at.
However, I think WBA regard themselves as too big a Club for a Manager with no Premiership experience or who has got promotion into the Premiership.
I can never understand why anyone would go for Roy Keane though, his managerial record isn't that special. |
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Clodagh Rubbish
Posts : 351 Join date : 2020-05-28
| Subject: Re: WBA in for Shoe E? Mon Oct 10, 2022 2:20 pm | |
| - Grovehill wrote:
- Any manager at the top of a League one down from a Club with a vacancy will be looked at.
However, I think WBA regard themselves as too big a Club for a Manager with no Premiership experience or who has got promotion into the Premiership.
I can never understand why anyone would go for Roy Keane though, his managerial record isn't that special. Has freinds in the media I guess however Very doubtful with any one out of Wilder, Parker and Dyche out of work. |
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Guest Guest
| Subject: Re: WBA in for Shoe E? Mon Oct 10, 2022 3:53 pm | |
| i wouldnt see WBA gambling on him just yet. Mind you the way they disgard managers like watford i guess the have run out of candidates willing to go there.
Schuey is doing fantastic and im sure the longer that continues here the more likely a team in the championship with a higher profile is going to take notice and approach us for him and i for one wouldnt begrudge him that opportunity providing he goes about it the right way and unlike Lowe doesnt walk at the first opportuniy cause he got caught cleaning his office too often or like luggy leave at a critical moment in the season that could damage our postition like luggy going to southampton almost did. |
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Freathy
Posts : 7252 Join date : 2011-05-12
| Subject: Re: WBA in for Shoe E? Mon Oct 10, 2022 8:39 pm | |
| WBA have gone down the old and tired 'big name' route with Steve Bruce and it has failed spectacularly. I think they would want an exciting up and coming young manager who has propelled a very modestly funded (compared to Ipswich, Sheff Wed, Pompey, Posh, Bolton, Derby, Barnsley) team right to the top of the table. Yes, West Brom fans would clearly love Sean Dyche but you can bet he'll be holding out for a Premier League club vacancy to materialise. I wouldn't be at all surprised if Schuey was given permission to speak to WBA this week. And we won't see him for dust when he is offered the job. |
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akagreengull Admin
Posts : 7624 Join date : 2012-01-12 Age : 68 Location : Mutant Abbot
| Subject: Re: WBA in for Shoe E? Mon Oct 10, 2022 10:12 pm | |
| - Freathy wrote:
- WBA have gone down the old and tired 'big name' route with Steve Bruce and it has failed spectacularly. I think they would want an exciting up and coming young manager who has propelled a very modestly funded (compared to Ipswich, Sheff Wed, Pompey, Posh, Bolton, Derby, Barnsley) team right to the top of the table. Yes, West Brom fans would clearly love Sean Dyche but you can bet he'll be holding out for a Premier League club vacancy to materialise. I wouldn't be at all surprised if Schuey was given permission to speak to WBA this week. And we won't see him for dust when he is offered the job.
Pure speculation. |
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Earwegoagain
Posts : 12371 Join date : 2017-09-09
| Subject: Re: WBA in for Shoe E? Tue Oct 11, 2022 9:09 am | |
| - akagreengull wrote:
- Freathy wrote:
- WBA have gone down the old and tired 'big name' route with Steve Bruce and it has failed spectacularly. I think they would want an exciting up and coming young manager who has propelled a very modestly funded (compared to Ipswich, Sheff Wed, Pompey, Posh, Bolton, Derby, Barnsley) team right to the top of the table. Yes, West Brom fans would clearly love Sean Dyche but you can bet he'll be holding out for a Premier League club vacancy to materialise. I wouldn't be at all surprised if Schuey was given permission to speak to WBA this week. And we won't see him for dust when he is offered the job.
Pure speculation. Obviously but what Freathy says will come true if the team keep it up this season. Argyle fans need to wake up to the fact that teams like these don't come about that often and IMO we have to keep the whole squad together, strengthen in January if needed (we have plenty of money in the bank after all thanks to the support of fans) and stay where we are in the table. Next summer will be carnage with a complete rebuild and Schuey will be gone foreshore. |
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Greenlander
Posts : 436 Join date : 2012-02-02 Location : at the edge of the sea
| Subject: Re: WBA in for Shoe E? Tue Oct 11, 2022 10:27 am | |
| Of course he'll go at some point if he keeps this up. It's the way of the football food chain and we're not as far up it as we'd like yet.
And gawd knows, the last club I'd want to compare us with is Luton, but like Nathan Jones who went off to to Stoke when his stock was high but wasn't gone that long before he toddled back Kenilworth Road way and pretty much continued on as before. |
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Czarcasm
Posts : 10244 Join date : 2011-10-23
| Subject: Re: WBA in for Shoe E? Tue Oct 11, 2022 4:03 pm | |
| - Greenlander wrote:
- Of course he'll go at some point if he keeps this up. It's the way of the football food chain and we're not as far up it as we'd like yet.
And gawd knows, the last club I'd want to compare us with is Luton, but like Nathan Jones who went off to to Stoke when his stock was high but wasn't gone that long before he toddled back Kenilworth Road way and pretty much continued on as before. It’s funny how managers careers can be a bit like snakes and ladders. Jones was pipped to the Argyle job by Del Boy…but has since gone on and trumped him with his successes at Luton, while Del is staring either relegation or the sack squarely in the face at Morecambe. |
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Earwegoagain
Posts : 12371 Join date : 2017-09-09
| Subject: Re: WBA in for Shoe E? Wed Oct 12, 2022 11:48 am | |
| I think it's safe to say that Shoey isn't going to be a Baggy any time soon. |
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VillageGreen
Posts : 6103 Join date : 2012-01-13 Age : 60 Location : Plymouth
| Subject: Re: WBA in for Shoe E? Wed Oct 12, 2022 12:10 pm | |
| Latest WBA possible manager list
Leam Richardson 2/1 Roy Keane 3/1 Sean Dyche 4/1 Chris Wilder 4/1 Gary O'Neil 6/1 Scott Parker 7/1 Carlos Corberan 9/1 Rob Edwards 11/1 Sam Allardyce 14/1 Michael Carrick 16/1 Chris Hughton 16/1 Michael O'Neill 18/1 Claudio Ranieri 30/1 Roy Hodgson 33/1 Ole Gunnar Solskjaer 33/1
Latest Middlesbrough possible manger list
Lee Cattermole 8/15 Michael Carrick 9/4 Rob Edwards 10/1 Leo Percovich 14/1 Carlos Corberan 16/1 Sean Dyche 18/1 Gary O'Neil 20/1 Scott Parker 22/1 Steve Cooper 22/1 Hannes Wolf 25/1 Mark Robins 25/1 Anthony Barry 28/1 Daniel Farke 28/1 Kieran McKenna 28/1 Michael Reiziger 28/1 Nigel Pearson 33/1 Ole Gunnar Solskjaer 33/1 Wayne Rooney 33/1 Andre Villas-Boas 40/1 David Wagner 40/1 Duncan Ferguson 40/1 Graeme Jones 40/1 John Terry 40/1 Liam Rosenior 40/1 Marcelo Bielsa 40/1 Mark Bonner 40/1 Mark Warburton 40/1 Michael Laudrup 40/1 Roy Keane 40/1 Sol Bamba 40/1 Steve Bruce 40/1 Steve McClaren 40/1 Aitor Karanka 50/1 Brendan Rodgers 50/1 Gary Rowett 50/1 Jonathan Woodgate 50/1 Nathan Jones 50/1 Robbie Neilson 50/1 Sam Allardyce 50/1 Liam Manning 80/1 Robbie Fowler 80/1 Ryan Lowe 80/1 Shota Arveladze 80/1 Veljko Paunovic 80/1
Both clubs will want an experienced manager who can get them back into the PL sooner, rather than later.
Last edited by VillageGreen on Wed Oct 12, 2022 12:32 pm; edited 3 times in total (Reason for editing : Lee Cattermole 8/15 Michael Carrick 9/4 Rob Edwards 10/1 Leo Percovich 14/1 Carlos Corberan 16/1 Sean Dyche 18/1 Gary O'Neil 20/1 Scott Parker 22/1 Steve Cooper 22/1 Hannes Wolf 25/1 Mark Robins 25/1 Anthony Barry 28/1 Daniel Farke 28/1 Kieran McKenna 28) |
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Czarcasm
Posts : 10244 Join date : 2011-10-23
| Subject: Re: WBA in for Shoe E? Wed Oct 12, 2022 1:10 pm | |
| - VillageGreen wrote:
- Latest WBA possible manager list
Leam Richardson 2/1 Roy Keane 3/1 Sean Dyche 4/1 Chris Wilder 4/1 Gary O'Neil 6/1 Scott Parker 7/1 Carlos Corberan 9/1 Rob Edwards 11/1 Sam Allardyce 14/1 Michael Carrick 16/1 Chris Hughton 16/1 Michael O'Neill 18/1 Claudio Ranieri 30/1 Roy Hodgson 33/1 Ole Gunnar Solskjaer 33/1
Latest Middlesbrough possible manger list
Lee Cattermole 8/15 Michael Carrick 9/4 Rob Edwards 10/1 Leo Percovich 14/1 Carlos Corberan 16/1 Sean Dyche 18/1 Gary O'Neil 20/1 Scott Parker 22/1 Steve Cooper 22/1 Hannes Wolf 25/1 Mark Robins 25/1 Anthony Barry 28/1 Daniel Farke 28/1 Kieran McKenna 28/1 Michael Reiziger 28/1 Nigel Pearson 33/1 Ole Gunnar Solskjaer 33/1 Wayne Rooney 33/1 Andre Villas-Boas 40/1 David Wagner 40/1 Duncan Ferguson 40/1 Graeme Jones 40/1 John Terry 40/1 Liam Rosenior 40/1 Marcelo Bielsa 40/1 Mark Bonner 40/1 Mark Warburton 40/1 Michael Laudrup 40/1 Roy Keane 40/1 Sol Bamba 40/1 Steve Bruce 40/1 Steve McClaren 40/1 Aitor Karanka 50/1 Brendan Rodgers 50/1 Gary Rowett 50/1 Jonathan Woodgate 50/1 Nathan Jones 50/1 Robbie Neilson 50/1 Sam Allardyce 50/1 Liam Manning 80/1 Robbie Fowler 80/1 Ryan Lowe 80/1 Shota Arveladze 80/1 Veljko Paunovic 80/1
Both clubs will want an experienced manager who can get them back into the PL sooner, rather than later. By all accounts Shuey has let it be known that he won’t be considering any Championship positions. This stemmed from his dismissal of the Huddersfield job (despite Freathy’s assertion that he’d be off like a shot). If he were at all a ‘Ryan Lowe’ type wantaway, he’d deffo be in the running looking at the calibre of the candidates for the two jobs above. Al in all, very good news. |
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Earwegoagain
Posts : 12371 Join date : 2017-09-09
| Subject: Re: WBA in for Shoe E? Wed Oct 12, 2022 2:21 pm | |
| I will take what Schuey says about leaving Argyle with pinch of salt like not selling Pan for less than £27m. He wont go to either of the two above because they will want someone with prem or promotion to the prem experience, we will need to be worried if a team like Ipswich, Wednesday or Pompey become managerless. Personally I think that it is next summer we need to worry about especially if we get promoted. At the end of the day one decent move to a bigger club would set his family up forever and he'd be nuts to keep turning down offers, if he was even offered the Huddersfield job? |
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Grovehill
Posts : 2306 Join date : 2012-01-24
| Subject: Re: WBA in for Shoe E? Wed Oct 12, 2022 3:39 pm | |
| Lets not forget Shue E has only been a Manager for less than a year at one Club.
Shithouse Lowe had been a Manager for 3 or 4 years and had two promotions at different Clubs under his belt before being offered a job with a Championship Club whose realistic ambitions are limited to finishing in the top half of the Division. Without the personal reasons-location and lust- I doubt he would have left for such a relatively short "step up"
If Schue E gets us promoted and into the top 6 of the Championship (as Holloway did) then Premiership Clubs will sit up and take notice. |
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Czarcasm
Posts : 10244 Join date : 2011-10-23
| Subject: Re: WBA in for Shoe E? Sun Oct 16, 2022 2:33 pm | |
| One or two worrying whispers regarding the WBA vacancy. If ever a big pay rise and contract extension offer was in order, rather than throw it at a player, it really ought to be thrown at Shuey in our current situation.
Hopefully there’s nothing in it. |
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Greenlander
Posts : 436 Join date : 2012-02-02 Location : at the edge of the sea
| Subject: Re: WBA in for Shoe E? Sun Oct 16, 2022 2:39 pm | |
| Oh, I do like to be beside the seaside Oh, I do like to be beside the sea Oh, I do like to stroll along the prom, prom, prom Where the brass bands play 'feck off West Brom' |
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Earwegoagain
Posts : 12371 Join date : 2017-09-09
| Subject: Re: WBA in for Shoe E? Sun Oct 16, 2022 3:15 pm | |
| - Czarcasm wrote:
- One or two worrying whispers regarding the WBA vacancy. If ever a big pay rise and contract extension offer was in order, rather than throw it at a player, it really ought to be thrown at Shuey in our current situation.
Hopefully there’s nothing in it. Lol. What's the point if he doesn't want to be here, plenty more fish in the sea, no manager bigger than the club, trust in Sigh ECT, ECT.... |
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Freathy
Posts : 7252 Join date : 2011-05-12
| Subject: Re: WBA in for Shoe E? Sun Oct 16, 2022 3:42 pm | |
| Well if WBA have made an approach, which is highly likely, then realistically Hallett will allow them to speak to Schuey. And Schuey will of course definitely accept the job as it's probably 3 or 4 times his current salary at a far bigger club than Argo. He's as good as gone. Apparently Darren Ferguson was sat with the Argo directors yesterday at MK. Possible replacement? |
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Czarcasm
Posts : 10244 Join date : 2011-10-23
| Subject: Re: WBA in for Shoe E? Sun Oct 16, 2022 4:21 pm | |
| - Earwegoagain wrote:
- Czarcasm wrote:
- One or two worrying whispers regarding the WBA vacancy. If ever a big pay rise and contract extension offer was in order, rather than throw it at a player, it really ought to be thrown at Shuey in our current situation.
Hopefully there’s nothing in it. Lol. What's the point if he doesn't want to be here, plenty more fish in the sea, no manager bigger than the club, trust in Sigh ECT, ECT.... Geez Ears, try to engage your brain and think for a minute….The fact you are laughably trying to draw parallels between the effect of Camara leaving (yes, with Argyle top of the league LOL) with the potential loss of the manager and what that could entail for our season, demonstrates how worthless your opinions really are. |
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Mook
Posts : 499 Join date : 2017-10-01 Location : Paignton
| Subject: Re: WBA in for Shoe E? Sun Oct 16, 2022 5:07 pm | |
| He'd be mental to leave us for them at this time. |
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Earwegoagain
Posts : 12371 Join date : 2017-09-09
| Subject: Re: WBA in for Shoe E? Sun Oct 16, 2022 5:11 pm | |
| - Czarcasm wrote:
- Earwegoagain wrote:
- Czarcasm wrote:
- One or two worrying whispers regarding the WBA vacancy. If ever a big pay rise and contract extension offer was in order, rather than throw it at a player, it really ought to be thrown at Shuey in our current situation.
Hopefully there’s nothing in it. Lol. What's the point if he doesn't want to be here, plenty more fish in the sea, no manager bigger than the club, trust in Sigh ECT, ECT.... Geez Ears, try to engage your brain and think for a minute….The fact you are laughably trying to draw parallels between the effect of Camara leaving (yes, with Argyle top of the league LOL) with the potential loss of the manager and what that could entail for our season, demonstrates how worthless your opinions really are. Worthless? Time will tell but your flip flopping does amuse me mate. |
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