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Earwegoagain

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PostSubject: Re: EU warns it will not accept pig in a poke Brexit.   EU warns it will not accept pig in a poke Brexit. - Page 34 EmptyThu Nov 10, 2022 11:32 am

If you want to hear something sensible listen to a Brexiteer,

The boss of retailer Next is urging the government to let more foreign workers into the UK to ease labour shortages.

Lord Wolfson, who was a prominent advocate of Brexit, said the UK's current immigration policy was crippling economic growth.

He said firms should pay a tax to employ foreign workers, to encourage them to recruit from the UK first.

The government said it had delivered on its promise to "take back control of our immigration system".

"Unemployment is at record lows and it's vital we continue to bring in excellent key workers the UK needs, including thousands of NHS doctors and nurses through the Health and Care Visa and the Seasonal Workers scheme which brings in the workforce our farmers and growers need," a government spokesperson said.

Free trade?
Lord Wolfson, a Conservative peer, told the BBC: "We have got people queuing up to come to this country to pick crops that are rotting in fields, to work in warehouses that otherwise wouldn't be operable, and we're not letting them in.

"And we have to take a different approach to economically productive migration."

He said that the government needed to decide whether the UK was an open free trading nation, or whether post-Brexit it wanted to be "fortress Britain", pulling up the drawbridge to foreign workers at significant cost to the economy.

"I think in respect of immigration, it's definitely not the Brexit that I wanted, or indeed, many of people who voted Brexit wanted," he said.

"And we have to remember, you know, we're all stuck in this Brexit argument, we have to remember that what post-Brexit Britain looks like, is not the preserve of those people that voted Brexit, it's for all of us to decide."

He added that the majority of people in Britain have a "very pragmatic view" of immigration.

"Yes, control it, where it's damaging to society, but let people in who can who can contribute," Lord Wolfson said
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Greatest act of self harm ever enacted by the rulling class on a nation in world political history
Am hopeful that Mogg, Johnson, Farage et all will end up one day in the Maze
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Savageandstrand wrote:
Greatest act of self harm ever enacted by the rulling class on a nation in world political history
Am hopeful that Mogg, Johnson, Farage et all will end up one day in the Maze
cheers

So tell us again, exactly how is your life worse since Brexit?
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Now there's talk of a closer relationship with the EU akin to the Swiss model which would take us back into the single market again.  Not perfect but at least it's a start and if it happened the only sane thing this effing atrocious government will have done in it's whole miserable time in office.
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So where is this talk coming from?
The lying limps, racist labour or bias broadcasting corporation?

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Freathy wrote:
Now there's talk of a closer relationship with the EU akin to the Swiss model which would take us back into the single market again.  Not perfect but at least it's a start and if it happened the only sane thing this effing atrocious government will have done in it's whole miserable time in office.

It is the single market and it just makes it easier to trade between UK and EU and the reason for it is that it's better for both parties. It's funny because a lot of people said it would happen (I did on here several times) yet project fear and it's advocates said no way trade deals take decades.Very Happy
Anyway I can't see it happening yet because the UK will never accept freedom of movement like the Swiss have done just wishful thinking by the remainers at the moment.
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How can we go back in and give up all the benefits and dividends we are enjoying now? FFS!

Doris will never allow it, lol.
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Correct.
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PostSubject: Re: EU warns it will not accept pig in a poke Brexit.   EU warns it will not accept pig in a poke Brexit. - Page 34 EmptyThu Nov 24, 2022 8:42 am

There's growing evidence that French rescue services failed to respond adequately to a migrant boat that sank in the Channel last November, with at least 33 people on board.

Only two of the passengers survived the disaster.

Transcripts of emergency calls made to the French coastguard, seen by the BBC, suggest that desperate passengers were repeatedly told to call UK emergency services, despite being in French waters when they first requested help.

And a French police investigation, leaked to the newspaper Le Monde, appears to suggest that the French coastguard never sent help to the scene, despite a specific UK request to do so.

The BBC also heard evidence that another migrant boat was passed back and forth between the two nations' rescue centres, just a few days before the Channel disaster.


Who do we blame for this? Boris, Nigel or the Russians.
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PostSubject: Re: EU warns it will not accept pig in a poke Brexit.   EU warns it will not accept pig in a poke Brexit. - Page 34 EmptyThu Nov 24, 2022 10:16 am

Earwegoagain wrote:
Savageandstrand wrote:
Greatest act of self harm ever enacted by the rulling class on a nation in world political history
Am hopeful that Mogg, Johnson, Farage et all will end up one day in the Maze
cheers

So tell us again, exactly how is your life worse since Brexit?

Trolling is not a quality trait chap
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Savageandstrand wrote:
Earwegoagain wrote:
Savageandstrand wrote:
Greatest act of self harm ever enacted by the rulling class on a nation in world political history
Am hopeful that Mogg, Johnson, Farage et all will end up one day in the Maze
cheers

So tell us again, exactly how is your life worse since Brexit?

Trolling is not a quality trait chap

Easy question. Your silence speaks volumes, keep it up chap.
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PostSubject: Re: EU warns it will not accept pig in a poke Brexit.   EU warns it will not accept pig in a poke Brexit. - Page 34 EmptyThu Nov 24, 2022 11:20 am

The simple answer is that no-one in this country is better off as a result of Brexit - apart that is from the currency traders, hedge fund managers, Tory party donors, the rich who care nothing about anything except themselves.

Brexit polarised the nation, it polarised the Tory party, it was solely responsible for Johnson becoming PM, and in that 3 years, an already creaking government became more unstable under his incompetent leadership, leading to his ignominious departure, followed by a few weeks of even more instability, if that was possible, under Truss.

Instablity in government leads to all sorts of financial issues within a country, higher loan repayments, inflation, higher interest rates, less money for people to spend. There are millions of people in this country who have to choose whether to feed their kids or heat their houses. This is 2022, not Victorian Britain.

Of course, Covid and Ukraine are factors, but the underlying root cause of the financial problems in this country at the moment is down to the polarising effects of Brexit. This country has 5 PMs since 2016. How can we possibly have a stable economy with so much change at the top, and so much change in the Cabinet, with ministers being appointed not for their expertise, but simply because they supported the present incumbent.

Worse still, there is no quick way out. This will be with us for a generation at least. The mindset in this country is that we left that terrible EU, and we'd be much better on our own. Fair enough, how's that working? 6 years on from the vote and the government is still talking about the opportunities afforded by Brexit. Haven't seen many yet - and we're unlikely to, because we have no-one capable of uniting a divided country and taking us to the 'promised land of freedom from the chains of the EU'.

Not that anyone has the slightest clue what that looks like.
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PlymptonPilgrim wrote:
The simple answer is that no-one in this country is better off as a result of Brexit - apart that is from the currency traders, hedge fund managers, Tory party donors, the rich who care nothing about anything except themselves.

Brexit polarised the nation, it polarised the Tory party, it was solely responsible for Johnson becoming PM, and in that 3 years, an already creaking government became more unstable under his incompetent leadership, leading to his ignominious departure, followed by a few weeks of even more instability, if that was possible, under Truss.

Instablity in government leads to all sorts of financial issues within a country, higher loan repayments, inflation, higher interest rates, less money for people to spend. There are millions of people in this country who have to choose whether to feed their kids or heat their houses. This is 2022, not Victorian Britain.

Of course, Covid and Ukraine are factors, but the underlying root cause of the financial problems in this country at the moment is down to the polarising effects of Brexit. This country has 5 PMs since 2016. How can we possibly have a stable economy with so much change at the top, and so much change in the Cabinet, with ministers being appointed not for their expertise, but simply because they supported the present incumbent.

Worse still, there is no quick way out. This will be with us for a generation at least. The mindset in this country is that we left that terrible EU, and we'd be much better on our own. Fair enough, how's that working? 6 years on from the vote and the government is still talking about the opportunities afforded by Brexit. Haven't seen many yet - and we're unlikely to, because we have no-one capable of uniting a divided country and taking us to the 'promised land of freedom from the chains of the EU'.

Not that anyone has the slightest clue what that looks like.

And being in the EU didn't polarise the nation and the tory party [and the Labour party for many years as well until Blair sanitised it in the name of electability]?. And how on earth was Brexit in itself responsible for May being so influenced by Remainers that it wasn't going to happen, Johnson eating a bit of cake at a party or Truss being so incompetent that her demise was inevitable? And are there any unbiased figures available as to how much the economic problems prevailing currently were caused by Covid/Ukraine compared to a disunited country?
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There are downsides to Brexit but there are plenty of upsides like the small boat crab and fishermen who have bypassed the exporters and are selling the crab and fish themselves straight to the British public and getting about four times the money they used to. Farmers are still getting fook all, indeed less than they cost to produce the stuff snd they need to break the stranglehold of the supermarkets (who have used cheap subsidized produce not only from EU but from worldwide which is killing the planet and our economy) and do the same thing the small fishermen are. There are massive opportunities in fish and meat processing we send fish and meat to the EU who package it and sell it on in our supermarkets. There are no tariffs on importing timber into EU or into UK yet our timber industry is pretty stagnant because we are so reliant on scandi imports we have almost forgotten how to run our own yet we the taxpayers have helped to plant loads of them. Thats just in my sphere of knowledge there are many, many more opportunities for anyone who wishes to stop moaning and get on with life yet we have about half the country who want the UK to fail because they didn't get their way in 2016 boo fooking hoo
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