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PostSubject: What Next For The Labour Party ?   What Next For The Labour Party ? EmptyTue Dec 17, 2019 1:14 pm

With Corbyn and McDonnell leaving soon, what next for Labour.

Do they stick with the hard-left stance, or move to a centre-left agenda.

Who will be the new leader and what could they bring to the table.

Will Momentum continue to influence the party, or will they disappear into the woodwork.

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PostSubject: Re: What Next For The Labour Party ?   What Next For The Labour Party ? EmptyTue Dec 17, 2019 1:36 pm

The new leader has to be a woman, and preferably of asian or african descent, could even throw in a disability or two.
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PostSubject: Re: What Next For The Labour Party ?   What Next For The Labour Party ? EmptyTue Dec 17, 2019 2:37 pm

Since the rules changed in 2016 since the last ingrate dared to challenge Jeremy for the leadership, it has become harder to get on the ballot. It used to be a certain % of its MPs, a supplementary requirement is that they now need support of 5% of constiuency Labour parties or at least 3 affiliates comprising 5% of the total affililiates.

That basically skews the contest in favour of the popular with the party membership eg Rebecca Long Bailey and away from someone that the majority of non Labour members might consider votable (Jess Phillips)

There are other candidates that may get on the ballot such as Sir Keir Starmer, sensiblel but dull also the prevailling opinion seems to be the next leader must have Ovaries and be Northern. Lisa Nandy, has ovaries and is Northern but nobody has heard of her plus too far to the right. Rayner might be decent but I think has ruled herself out.

So what I fully expect to happen is Momentum will cajole everyone into voting for Long Bailey or Wrong Daily as she is already called who will fight the same campaign with the same results
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PostSubject: Re: What Next For The Labour Party ?   What Next For The Labour Party ? EmptyTue Dec 17, 2019 5:24 pm

Les Miserable wrote:
The new leader has to be a woman, and preferably of asian or african descent, could even throw in a disability or two.

After ticking all the above boxes, throw in a declaration that said candidate was indeed gender neutral and there you have it, a shoe-in as Britain's next PM.
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PostSubject: Re: What Next For The Labour Party ?   What Next For The Labour Party ? EmptyTue Dec 17, 2019 5:59 pm

Czarcasm wrote:
Les Miserable wrote:
The new leader has to be a woman, and preferably of asian or african descent, could even throw in a disability or two.

After ticking all the above boxes, throw in a declaration that said candidate was indeed gender neutral and there you have it, a shoe-in as Britain's next PM.

No we'd have the BEEB trying to convince us all they will be a shoe in as next PM for the next four years then they will lose their seat like Swinson did.
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PostSubject: Re: What Next For The Labour Party ?   What Next For The Labour Party ? EmptyTue Dec 17, 2019 8:38 pm

What about the next leader being Jewish?

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PostSubject: Re: What Next For The Labour Party ?   What Next For The Labour Party ? EmptyWed Dec 18, 2019 8:36 am

The last one was Jewish for all the good that did him.
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PostSubject: Re: What Next For The Labour Party ?   What Next For The Labour Party ? EmptyWed Dec 18, 2019 9:39 am

Corbynism and Momentum's strangle hold must be binned....just left of centre must be the path if they ever want to be ever taken seriously again.

The flooding of the party with £3 memberships before Corbyn's election was a takeover of the party....it's been down hill ever since.

From Corbyns demeanour since being defeated you would never know that he was humiliated at the polls....laughing and taking selfies with those wishing him well...seems very strange....plus staying in charge until March....looks a bonus for the Tories.
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PostSubject: Re: What Next For The Labour Party ?   What Next For The Labour Party ? EmptyMon Dec 23, 2019 8:37 pm

Momentum and the far left membership will ensure Corbynista Rebecca Long-Baily will win the leadership contest. I don't think there's ever been an organisation less capable of learning lessons than labour. They will not win another an election for at least 20 years, if ever.
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PostSubject: Re: What Next For The Labour Party ?   What Next For The Labour Party ? EmptyTue Dec 24, 2019 9:37 am

Momentum wont be going away and Labours new plan will be to continue calling working class Northerners racist and thick, which didn't quite work this time round but hey, worth another try.
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PostSubject: Re: What Next For The Labour Party ?   What Next For The Labour Party ? EmptyTue Dec 24, 2019 9:53 am

Well need strong leader Bozo has already red carded or amended 7 of his election pledges albeit nobody could be surprised

I think Kier Starmer if he does throw his hat in would be quite popular
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PostSubject: Re: What Next For The Labour Party ?   What Next For The Labour Party ? EmptyTue Dec 24, 2019 10:27 am

Richard Burgon with his annoying slow way of talking hasn't understood now't regarding Labour's defeat.....for one of the more educated Shadow Ministers....(Cambridge)... he just wants more of the same.....and will not accept that Corbyn was part of the problem.
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PostSubject: Re: What Next For The Labour Party ?   What Next For The Labour Party ? EmptyTue Dec 24, 2019 12:19 pm

harvetheslayer wrote:
Well need strong leader Bozo has already red carded or amended 7 of his election pledges albeit nobody could be surprised

I think Kier Starmer if he does throw his hat in would be quite popular

I missed that which pledges are they?
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PostSubject: Re: What Next For The Labour Party ?   What Next For The Labour Party ? EmptySun Dec 29, 2019 11:56 am

Earwegoagain wrote:
harvetheslayer wrote:
Well need strong leader Bozo has already red carded or amended 7 of his election pledges albeit nobody could be surprised

I think Kier Starmer if he does throw his hat in would be quite popular

I missed that which pledges are they?

Bump, it was a genuine question.
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PostSubject: Re: What Next For The Labour Party ?   What Next For The Labour Party ? EmptySun Dec 29, 2019 1:58 pm

A serious look at, and into, the party [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]

While,Tom Waston, cites [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] within the party.

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PostSubject: Re: What Next For The Labour Party ?   What Next For The Labour Party ? EmptySun Dec 29, 2019 2:02 pm

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Momentum and the far left membership will ensure Corbynista Rebecca Long-Baily will win the leadership contest.  I don't think there's ever been an organisation less capable of learning lessons than labour.  They will not win another an election for at least 20 years, if ever.


You could be so right there.

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PostSubject: Re: What Next For The Labour Party ?   What Next For The Labour Party ? EmptySun Dec 29, 2019 8:59 pm

corbyn can always go back to the rag and bone trade bring back steptoe and son for a new series i guess when cesar eventually gives up his power.
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PostSubject: Re: What Next For The Labour Party ?   What Next For The Labour Party ? EmptyFri Jan 03, 2020 7:48 am

Earwegoagain wrote:
Earwegoagain wrote:
harvetheslayer wrote:
Well need strong leader Bozo has already red carded or amended 7 of his election pledges albeit nobody could be surprised

I think Kier Starmer if he does throw his hat in would be quite popular

I missed that which pledges are they?

Bump, it was a genuine question.

Still politely asking for an answer Harve?
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PostSubject: Re: What Next For The Labour Party ?   What Next For The Labour Party ? EmptyFri Jan 03, 2020 7:59 am

Earwegoagain wrote:
Earwegoagain wrote:
Earwegoagain wrote:
harvetheslayer wrote:
Well need strong leader Bozo has already red carded or amended 7 of his election pledges albeit nobody could be surprised

I think Kier Starmer if he does throw his hat in would be quite popular

I missed that which pledges are they?

Bump, it was a genuine question.

Still politely asking for an answer Harve?

Easier if you go to the "Wear Red- Stand up and be counted" site on Facebook who uncover them as they arise and analyse them. Vast majority will miss them. The minimum wage was a cracker whereby Cummings had inserted an additional line of text which stated "if finances allow" on legislation

Evil bastards they are. Childrens and Cancer wards off too privitisation. You guys were warned enough times. Make no mistake the evil oaf will crash us out no deal on 31st December 2020 all to enable his hedge funds chums to make billions.
The only upside for next 4-5 years is that whatever happens its all on the Tories
There will be no Brexit to blame or Corbyn. Every disaster thats coming will be on the heads of the Con artists

As before for me Kier Starmer for Labour leader
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PostSubject: Re: What Next For The Labour Party ?   What Next For The Labour Party ? EmptyFri Jan 03, 2020 8:29 am

Sir Kier Starmer you mean Harve? the Labour chap who graduated from Oxford and has a Knighthood?
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PostSubject: Re: What Next For The Labour Party ?   What Next For The Labour Party ? EmptyFri Jan 03, 2020 10:47 am

PatDunne wrote:
Sir Kier Starmer you mean Harve? the Labour chap who graduated from Oxford and has a Knighthood?

Whats that got to do with anything?
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PostSubject: Re: What Next For The Labour Party ?   What Next For The Labour Party ? EmptyFri Jan 03, 2020 10:53 am

It means that many Labour politicians are as privileged as the Tories who are demonised for being so, pot, black, kettle springs to mind.

No private schools except for my children from the likes of Abbot.
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PostSubject: Re: What Next For The Labour Party ?   What Next For The Labour Party ? EmptyFri Jan 03, 2020 11:25 am

none of those who have announced they are standing or considering are going to get the labour back into contention for government.

In fact when corbyn and his cult momentum are still pulling the strings no one who could is going to step forward.
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PostSubject: Re: What Next For The Labour Party ?   What Next For The Labour Party ? EmptyFri Jan 03, 2020 12:00 pm

Seems like Rebecca Wrong-Daily is being shoe-horned in as a Continuity Corbyn leader by Momentum.
On the other end of the spectrum we have Sir Kier Starmer & Lady Nugee. Very working class Very Happy

What’s wrong with someone like Alan Johnson ? moderate, experienced & so much common sense.
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PostSubject: Re: What Next For The Labour Party ?   What Next For The Labour Party ? EmptyFri Jan 03, 2020 12:01 pm

PatDunne wrote:
It means that many Labour politicians are as privileged as the Tories who are demonised for being so, pot, black, kettle springs to mind.

No private schools except for my children from the likes of Abbot.

You referred specifically to Starmer though. Not "Abbot" or anyone else within the party. What has his Knighthood and Education got to do with anything?



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