How many points would Argyle need to gain promotion ?

jabba the gut ecfc wrote:

start panicking about  Brent and his Praetorian guard living large for the next few months. Just as long as you don't win the league...

Gawd they will be unsufferable and all hailing Sir Jimmy for taking us up on 4 hours a week. Wankers.....
You can see the headlines proclaiming freaks and weidos coming nailed on

Innocent Egbunike wrote:

sufferedsince 68 wrote:

Since Brent, cashed in on Purrington, four wins two draws and four defeats from ten games.
That form over the next ten will see us fail, argo must improve or Jimmy, will have won.

Don't think it will. 14 points would put us on 82, which should be enough this time out. Pompey now going really well but even if they overhaul us the next team has to come from 10 points back. Also, we are officially better away from home with more away wins than home, with less away games played...so 6 from 10 left away from home is looking an advantage.

If we win on Tuesday (we will, big, as I'll be there), we'll start to look out of sight with 9 games left.

As a side note, assuming we get promoted, I hope Pompey do too. Bar Sheffield Utd, probably the best-supported club in the bottom two divisions.

Agree with all of that. Today DA really wound up Evans and on Tuesday he'll have those players fired up so he can just laugh at Anusworth. Next week its Pompous vs Stevenage !

jabba the gut ecfc wrote:

This is almost certainly the Saturday that all but sends you up. The other challengers are so erratic it's very difficult to believe two sides are going to bridge the gap in the time available.

You can stop panicking about yet another slip-up and start panicking about  Brent and his Praetorian guard living large for the next few months. Just as long as you don't win the league...

I have the feeling that result might be pivotal, not counting my chickens yet of course. I can almost guarantee the day we go up will be as a result of someone else losing.

If the target is still 82 (I think it'll be lower - perhaps as low as 77 now) we have 13 points to go.

Basically 4 more wins should do it.

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Just enough IMO

8 games to go and we have 72 points. 11 points in front of 4th placed Stevenage with Luton 1 game and 2 points back. 3rd placed Pompey are looking over their shoulder now not upwards.

3 more wins will mean Stevenage need 7 wins out of 8 and Luton 8 out of 9. This will not happen.

Our target for promotion is now a maximum of 81 points (3W) and we need to win at Donny next week to stand a chance of being Champions.

Newport vs Luton tonight 1-1 so it was 5 wins to guarantee promotion and now it 4 wins and a draw (+1 more for GD)

Well done Newport, saw that one as a Luton win.
Just listened to the Torquay game, another disastrous night for the Gulls, going down 2 - 3 to Eastleigh,  Graham Stack in goal for Eastleigh (remember him).
Results went badly against them also, looking grim now, back in drop zone.
Going down barring miracles.

This is the kind of resultd we needs from the chasing pack but I think Steveage and Blackpool are the outsiders for third place

25/30 points and beating Pompey suggest Stevenage are favourites for third. Blackpool won't overhaul them and Pompey.

Very long way to go yet. 24 points still to play for and Stevenage, Pompey and Luton won't drop nearly as many as Argo over the final eight games. It could well go down to the final game with Argo needing something at Grimsby.

If things carry on as they have done, form-wise, it will be one of the lowest points totals ever needed to secure 3rd. Two wins from eight could easily be enough for us.

Czarcasm wrote:

If things carry on as they have done, form-wise, it will be one of the lowest points totals ever needed to secure 3rd. Two wins from eight could easily be enough for us.

The way things are shaping up you're dead right. Something to have a deeper look at during the closed season, perhaps.

I suppose it suggests that the division is much more competitive this season which is all very weird given that the total at the top last year was so high. Poor old Accrington must be pig sick.

akagreengull wrote:

Well done Newport, saw that one as a Luton win.
Just listened to the Torquay game, another disastrous night for the Gulls, going down 2 - 3 to Eastleigh,  Graham Stack in goal for Eastleigh (remember him).
Results went badly against them also, looking grim now, back in drop zone.
Going down barring miracles.

Hope Torquay survive, Mr Gull. Bad for westcountry football if they sink to the Conference South. Always quite enjoyed going to Plainmoor.

Freathy wrote:

Very long way to go yet.  24 points still to play for and Stevenage, Pompey and Luton won't drop nearly  as many as Argo over the final eight games.  It could well go down to the final game with Argo needing something at Grimsby.

Bowlax, Mr Freath. Your race is almost run this season, I'm afraid. Mind you, you'll be able to have a field day next season unless we see some money from nowhere for squad strengthening.

It ain't rocket science that if u want to be pushing at the top end of any given division, you need a number of players capable of cutting it in the league above. Looking at our squad, I don't see too many that could do a job in the Championship. It'll be another major squad-surgery job in the summer for Adams, finances (lol) permitting.

Possibly but not necessarily. How many of us expected Sturrock's mob to trounce all before them in Div 3?

OK so it took a year to stabilise and a few players came in but it was essentially the same squad.

That said of the players we have McCormick, Bradley and Carey look like the only ones ready to cut it a division higher. Possibly Threlkeld and Fox, who has age counting against him, too. So that's about half a team in place and another half needed.

With that and the one year contract policy we can expect plenty of transfer action, in and out, in the near future.

That's assuming Carey etc don't bump into an owner that gives a shite and offers them and their families the additional security of a two year deal.

I've never bought in to the love-in many people have with Threlkeld. What he does give you, no question, is 100%. But I've seen enough errors this season to indicate he'll struggle at league 1 level.

Innocent Egbunike wrote:

Freathy wrote:

Very long way to go yet.  24 points still to play for and Stevenage, Pompey and Luton won't drop nearly  as many as Argo over the final eight games.  It could well go down to the final game with Argo needing something at Grimsby.

Bowlax, Mr Freath. Your race is almost run this season, I'm afraid. Mind you, you'll be able to have a field day next season unless we see some money from nowhere for squad strengthening.

Old Freathers might need to up his gloomy inaccurate predictions to Argo losing 3 - 0 every game next season
Imagine green Jimmy's lip is already of a quiver at the thought of manager and fans thinking there might need to be more investment to keep us in League 1.


But then I forgot, there is always the FA cup windfall/Purrington million plus money tucked away, you know the money the board doesn't want to talk about.

Czarcasm wrote:

I've never bought in to the love-in many people have with Threlkeld. What he does give you, no question, is 100%. But I've seen enough errors this season to indicate he'll struggle at league 1 level.

 Have to agree. But tbf i thought he had a blinder v morcombe last week  though

It's a bit unfair to judge Threlkeld as a full back when he is clearly a midfield player first and foremost. Especially when half the time he's playing on the wrong wing.

What he brings is spirit, commitment, effort, bravery and energy to the team. Were he more offensive in approach he could be the next David Norris.

And while comparing current players with ones from the past does anybody else see John Matthews every time they look at Sarcevic?

Sir Francis Drake wrote:

It's a bit unfair to judge Threlkeld as a full back when he is clearly a midfield player first and foremost. Especially when half the time he's playing on the wrong wing.

What he brings is spirit, commitment, effort, bravery and energy to the team. Were he more offensive in approach he could be the next David Norris.

And while comparing current players with ones from the past does anybody else see John Matthews every time they look at Sarcevic?

To be perfectly honest, no.

Sir Francis Drake wrote:

Possibly but not necessarily. How many of us expected Sturrock's mob to trounce all before them in Div 3?

OK so it took a year to stabilise and a few players came in but it was essentially the same squad.

That said of the players we have McCormick, Bradley and Carey look like the only ones ready to cut it a division higher. Possibly Threlkeld and Fox, who has age counting against him, too. So that's about half a team in place and another half needed.

With that and the one year contract policy we can expect plenty of transfer action, in and out, in the near future.

I think you're over egging the standard of league one. It's as bad as league two.

You have to go back to 2011 to find the last promoted team to be relegated back to league two the following season. That was Wycombe. All the others seemed to manage quite easily.

What most teams do that's different to Argyle is offer their better players new contracts in January instead of letting them run down.

This board of cheapskates treat it as if it's their own personal money.

Sir Francis Drake wrote:

It's a bit unfair to judge Threlkeld as a full back when he is clearly a midfield player first and foremost. Especially when half the time he's playing on the wrong wing.

What he brings is spirit, commitment, effort, bravery and energy to the team. Were he more offensive in approach he could be the next David Norris.

And while comparing current players with ones from the past does anybody else see John Matthews every time they look at Sarcevic?

I can understand what you're thinking. Nothing flashy but a good player who pops up everywhere. Same sort of build as well.