Early Doors

Perspective. It's different for everyone.

So far we have had 2 games against opponents who will be nearer the top than the bottom come the end of the season. We have won one and lost one. Not great but not awful either.

On Tuesday we have the first game this season that I genuinely expect us to win against Carlisle. After that, if we win it, we'll have 6 points from 3 games. Over a season that level of return would give us 92 points and certain promotion. Lose it and we'll be on course for 46 points and probable relegation!

The conclusion? Far too early for either champagne or anti-depressants but we shouldn't even be thinking about hitting the panic button yet.

Thanks for that, are you x isle in disguise?

Not as far as I know.

"To the regiment....!"

Sir Francis Drake wrote:

Perspective. It's different for everyone.

So far we have had 2 games against opponents who will be nearer the top than the bottom come the end of the season. We have won one and lost one. Not great but not awful either.

On Tuesday we have the first game this season that I genuinely expect us to win against Carlisle. After that, if we win it, we'll have 6 points from 3 games. Over a season that level of return would give us 92 points and certain promotion. Lose it and we'll be on course for 46 points and probable relegation!

The conclusion? Far too early for either champagne or anti-depressants but we shouldn't even be thinking about hitting the panic button yet.

id go with that as well sir francis they didnt look to shabby on the pitch...but off it well thats another matter ??

The problems off the pitch linger - of that there is no doubt.

James Brent is getting far more out of Argyle than Argyle is getting out of him - that's fore shore.

Early days it is I feel though we still need to address the squad depth and learn Reuben is not a lone striker you have to have him up there with someone to play off or lay off to get the best out of him.

Angry wrote:

Early days it is I feel though we still need to address the squad depth and learn Reuben is not a lone striker you have to have him up there with someone to play off or lay off to get the best out of him.

I said on another thread that it will probably take a little more time for Argyle to get into the swing of things. Once they do, the style of play will hopefully be better. If however, the team are continuing to come up short after 10-15 games, then it will be time to ask questions of DA and the players.

StIll doesn't cover the squad depth village green.

Sir Francis Drake wrote:

Perspective. It's different for everyone.

So far we have had 2 games against opponents who will be nearer the top than the bottom come the end of the season. We have won one and lost one. Not great but not awful either.

On Tuesday we have the first game this season that I genuinely expect us to win against Carlisle. After that, if we win it, we'll have 6 points from 3 games. Over a season that level of return would give us 92 points and certain promotion. Lose it and we'll be on course for 46 points and probable relegation!

The conclusion? Far too early for either champagne or anti-depressants but we shouldn't even be thinking about hitting the panic button yet.

So we are 15 all in the first game of the first set and the next point dictates whether we win the match or not. Not sure where to begin with that logic.

The conclusion? I blame the papers for printing the league table after one match.

Sir Francis Drake wrote:

Perspective. It's different for everyone.

So far we have had 2 games against opponents who will be nearer the top than the bottom come the end of the season. We have won one and lost one. Not great but not awful either.

On Tuesday we have the first game this season that I genuinely expect us to win against Carlisle. After that, if we win it, we'll have 6 points from 3 games. Over a season that level of return would give us 92 points and certain promotion. Lose it and we'll be on course for 46 points and probable relegation!

The conclusion? Far too early for either champagne or anti-depressants but we shouldn't even be thinking about hitting the panic button yet.

Too Bleddy right

Sir Francis Drake wrote:

We have won one and lost one. Not great but not awful either.

You're right about different perspectives. You mathematicians are all the same though, you like talking "mean".
Still, the sun  will be up tomorrow I expect. Carlisle are already the draw specialists, so I expect another meannnn result.
I like Adams' talk so far though. A bit concerned when he said he was not able to stop Pompey stopping us play. That was a bit concerning, that's half the game of football, stopping the opposition. Maybe they were just too strong.

Angry wrote:

StIll doesn't cover the squad depth village green.

I am aware of that situation, if the doom and gloom scenario becomes reality down the line, then the blame can be firmly placed at the feet of James Brent for the assumed woeful budget Adams has had to play with.

I really hope that Argyle do get into the swing of things over the next five or so games.

Rollo Tomasi wrote:

Sir Francis Drake wrote:

Perspective. It's different for everyone.

So far we have had 2 games against opponents who will be nearer the top than the bottom come the end of the season. We have won one and lost one. Not great but not awful either.

On Tuesday we have the first game this season that I genuinely expect us to win against Carlisle. After that, if we win it, we'll have 6 points from 3 games. Over a season that level of return would give us 92 points and certain promotion. Lose it and we'll be on course for 46 points and probable relegation!

The conclusion? Far too early for either champagne or anti-depressants but we shouldn't even be thinking about hitting the panic button yet.

So we are 15 all in the first game of the first set and the next point dictates whether we win the match or not. Not sure where to begin with that logic.

The conclusion? I blame the papers for printing the league table after one match.

I can remember when the tables did not get released until after a few games.

John Hawkins wrote:

Sir Francis Drake wrote:

We have won one and lost one. Not great but not awful either.

You're right about different perspectives. You mathematicians are all the same though, you like talking "mean".
Still, the sun  will be up tomorrow I expect. Carlisle are already the draw specialists, so I expect another meannnn result.
I like Adams' talk so far though. A bit concerned when he said he was not able to stop Pompey stopping us play. That was a bit concerning, that's half the game of football, stopping the opposition. Maybe they were just too strong.

Do you really  believe that every League Two side will be able to do what Portsmouth did. We will see a handful of other teams [Luton Town, Oxford United, Bristol Rovers, Exeter City as examples] having a crack, but I do not think they will be a patch on Portsmouth and the way they went about the game plan on Saturday. After reading media reports and forum posts about the game, it is perfectly clear that Portsmouth are probable champions of League Two.

If we lose against carlisle that would be three home defeats on the bounce a sacking offence at a lot of clubs, but Adams has no worries on that front, he's not at a promotion seeking club and has long as he tows the party line and keeps the club out of the relegation places that will be okey dokey for Jimmy. i expect by now Adams has sussed why Sheridan preffered unemployment to working for the reluctant one and his diminishing budget.

sufferedsince 68 wrote:

If we lose against carlisle that would be three home defeats on the bounce a sacking offence at a lot of clubs, but Adams has no worries on that front, he's not at a promotion seeking club and has long as he tows the party line and keeps the club out of the relegation places that will be okey dokey for Jimmy. i expect by now Adams has sussed why Sheridan preffered unemployment to working for the reluctant one and his diminishing budget.

Shaddap and be grateful.
Stop moaning.
Its early days yet
Pompey are the best team in the league....apparently


Wake me up when this nightmare is over.

VillageGreen wrote:

John Hawkins wrote:

Sir Francis Drake wrote:

We have won one and lost one. Not great but not awful either.

You're right about different perspectives. You mathematicians are all the same though, you like talking "mean".
Still, the sun  will be up tomorrow I expect. Carlisle are already the draw specialists, so I expect another meannnn result.
I like Adams' talk so far though. A bit concerned when he said he was not able to stop Pompey stopping us play. That was a bit concerning, that's half the game of football, stopping the opposition. Maybe they were just too strong.

Do you really  believe that every League Two side will be able to do what Portsmouth did. We will see a handful of other teams [Luton Town, Oxford United, Bristol Rovers, Exeter City as examples] having a crack, but I do not think they will be a patch on Portsmouth and the way they went about the game plan on Saturday. After reading media reports and forum posts about the game, it is perfectly clear that Portsmouth are probable champions of League Two.

Not from this point of view they aren't, they were competent and good enough to beat Argyle but not much more. From some of the things that have been said they would seem to have been a cross between Barcelona and Bayern Munich but Bury and Wycombe were more impressive last season in the same way as teams like Chesterfield and Port Vale were previously. Only time will tell if the effusive praise being dished out to Pompey reflects reality or in fact is some sort of mass star-struck chimera.

To be honest for 45 minutes I couldn't see much between the sides. Pompey had the lion's share of possession but there was little in it and neither goalie was much troubled.

The penalty changed everything though. From that point their careful possession play protected their lead and we were unable to do much about it and the second penalty killed us off.

In truth they were extremely comfortable winners with, Wylde's late goal apart, us only mustering one Carey shot that looked like it might result in a goal but even that was well-saved by their 'keeper.

It's difficult to assess exactly how good Pompey were. They were as good as they needed to be and we weren't up to pushing them any further.

Had the ref not given the first penalty and had he dismissed the blonde sub for use of his elbow it might have been very different but he didn't and it wasn't.

It was inevitable that Pompey would come good eventually, just as it is that we will - and I would add Luton and Bristol Rovers to the same list, and after Saturday this looks more likely to be their year than ours.

The Big Question is how long will our fans put up with being in this bloody division before they get angry with it? The post-admin excuses will only go so far and from then on in they'll sound incredibly hollow - if they don't already.

See my many previous posts about when Mad Dan was in charge.
Brent get's a free run and it absolutely beggars belief.

Punchdrunk wrote:

sufferedsince 68 wrote:

If we lose against carlisle that would be three home defeats on the bounce a sacking offence at a lot of clubs, but Adams has no worries on that front, he's not at a promotion seeking club and has long as he tows the party line and keeps the club out of the relegation places that will be okey dokey for Jimmy. i expect by now Adams has sussed why Sheridan preffered unemployment to working for the reluctant one and his diminishing budget.

Shaddap and be grateful.
Stop moaning.
Its early days yet
Pompey are the best team in the league....apparently


Wake me up when this nightmare is over.

spot on punchy..wake us all up when this Brentmare is finally over

Punchdrunk wrote:

See my many previous posts about when Mad Dan was in charge.
Brent get's a free run and it absolutely beggars belief.

Back then PASOTI was proudly independent of the club.

I saw the game as SFD did. Proper dull 1st half brought to life by the penalty, they had most of the possesion but I don't remember many chances being created. I'd gone to queue for a pint so didnt see the penalty, the second went pretty much the same way as the first with little inclination apparent on our part to change the outcome. The 2nd penalty looked nailed on and I missed Carey's goal having left by then.

Sir Francis Drake wrote:

To be honest for 45 minutes I couldn't see much between the sides. Pompey had the lion's share of possession but there was little in it and neither goalie was much troubled.

The penalty changed everything though. From that point their careful possession play protected their lead and we were unable to do much about it and the second penalty killed us off.

In truth they were extremely comfortable winners with, Wylde's late goal apart, us only mustering one Carey shot that looked like it might result in a goal but even that was well-saved by their 'keeper.

It's difficult to assess exactly how good Pompey were. They were as good as they needed to be and we weren't up to pushing them any further.

Had the ref not given the first penalty and had he dismissed the blonde sub for use of his elbow it might have been very different but he didn't and it wasn't.

It was inevitable that Pompey would come good eventually, just as it is that we will - and I would add Luton and Bristol Rovers to the same list, and after Saturday this looks more likely to be their year than ours.

The Big Question is how long will our fans put up with being in this bloody division before they get angry with it? The post-admin excuses will only go so far and from then on in they'll sound incredibly hollow - if they don't already.

I am peed off with League Two football and have been for three years. It just seems like the same old, same old year on year.