Shake up of leagues.Subject: FA to consider a new competition for Premier and Championship B teams..   

His plan is about destroying the league as we know it for the benefit of the PL teams. He should resign as FA chair!

Dyke said that money will talk in the end to get the Football League on board and it has been suggested that a figure of £2 million per team, per year for however long. So is that £2 million to the League One and Two clubs, or is it that the FA/Premier League will pay the Football League £2 million per B team, per year. The report was in today's Express - page 61.

''GREG DYKE believes Premier League clubs can force the Football League to buy into the idea of accepting B teams for a bargain £2m per club per year. That is believed to be the figure with which the FA board hope to persuade the Football League to sell its 126-year history by accepting second-string squads into the lower tiers''.

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Surely if the money does eventually go to League One and Two clubs [in whatever form], then the Football League will have to barter more..

The FA/Premier League could pay a figure of £5 million to each of the League One and Two clubs per year, or pay £5 million for these B teams to play in the Football League per year. That is reasonable. The FA/Premier League can afford that no problem..

I heard Richard Scudamore slagging it off too on R5, that must mean some money is still escaping from the EPL to the League in the plan and Greg Dyke will need some silicone to plug up the leaks before it can go forward.

Thought his was a good one,

I am a Pompey Supporter and we too have suffered a roller coaster ride. We just about stayed in the League this year thanks to young players who we have brought through our Academy. Indeed we are investing as a Club now owned by its supporters, extremely large sums in a training ground for the First Team and Academy and in bringing parts of the ground back into use. No money was spent on any of this in our “glory” years! The big clubs take good players out of commission by buying them up as cover. This is primarily to stop them playing for rivals. How many young players careers have been blighted by being signed up and never getting in the first team. Stop this creaming off and there isn’t a problem. As a Scottish colleague of mine put it: do they really think that Stoke B against Accrington stanley is going to win England the World Cup?

Giving clubs £2m a year will just inflate the wages of lower league players - the £2m a year wouldn't, I suspect, be invested anywhere else. It wouldn't be of a benefit to any one other than people like Simon Walton, that right back from Oxford and whoever played in goal for Port Vale the other day. That £2m would probably not be forthcoming forever more either.

I wish they'd just can it. They shoukd also have consulted lower league clubs before pushing this into the media and creating a shit storm.

You can whore yourself for £2m or you can whore yourself for £5m either way you're a whore and you end up screwed.

No. Just no. Not at any price.

hairy j wrote:

I wish they'd just can it. They shoukd also have consulted lower league clubs before pushing this into the media and creating a shit storm.

My guess is that it's an intentional shit storm that'll be used to make Dyke look a real hero when he becomes a man of the people and listens to the lower leagues. It's not going to happen, never was and never will.  

Spowell. You've been swimming with the ATD conspiracy sharks a little too much. There's no conspiracy, he's doing this for the elite clubs under the pretence of giving us 'elite' level English players. What does he get in return? Benefits. He'll keep his lucrative job, he'll be welcomed with open arms in the VIP hospitality suites of every major English Premier League club and he'll do that to the detriment of millions of football fans who support teams like us.
The only benefit for us would be £2m - utterly pointless as player's agents will just use that to leverage longer/better contracts for our 'heroes' so it won't benefit us (the fans) at all.
I look forward to Chelsea taking Forest Green to court when their angry part-time centre half breaks the legs of their promising starlet.

Chelsea would still wrap the little starlet up in cotton wool, we wouldn't be playing the likes of Rooney and Sturridge in the extra league the prem clubs would use it as a development league for the players that are going to fall short of the first team. How would that help future England teams?

I said 'promising starlet' - that's what this is allegedly for. Playing 19-23 year old English players so they get competitive(ish) games in front of crowds in proper stadiums. This will naturally mean that our next generation if footballers will win the World Cup as some of them woukd have scored hattricks against Nuneaton Borough.
Dyke, on yer bike!

If you think about it further then how would Playing Rooney and Sturridge in league 3 help their careers?

It won't. If you look at the current under 23 players and those of the past, they're good enough to be in first teams. Rooney, Owen, Fowler, Barkley, Ferdinand, Carrick, Joe Cole, Sterling, Gareth Barry... list is endless. It's more likely that those that don't make it at clubs will play in these leagues and essentially put them in the shop windows for lower league clubs.
Oh, you have £2m? This 24 year old scored 32 goals in League 3. Give us £500k and he's yours.

I really hate the idea of this, it's made me quite angry.

If this truly is about fostering a better standard of player for England, and an England team capable of winning a world or european cup, I'd say their floggin a dead horse. Sorry to say this but 66 aside (when England hosted it and had friendly officials on their side) England have never looked like winning a major tournament. 1990 was the only exception in my lifetime and that was pre PL anyway and with an English boss.

Mind you that was said about the Rugby world cup as well.

Anyway what the feck is that meant to mean? We should just give up and not bother?

England currently just doesn't have what it takes to win a tournament. Doesn't matter about a or b teams; the players are just not good enough, mentally, physically or technically. This will not change anytime soon and on this basis alone the whole idea is a waste of time and money and will ruin the one thing about English club football that carries any appeal; its tradition, history, fans and culture.

"Friendly officials"? "Friendly officials?" NZ, We were the best side in '66 & needed no external help!   

And hairy you're a wimp...... "it's made me quite angry"?! It's made me apoplectic. Actually it hasn't.... it's made me even more depressed over how the Premier League are wanting to screw over the rest of the game & the reality is if they want to do it they will and there's little we could do about it.

I will not be watching the premiership ever again on t.v -Dyke OUT!
Don't give a shit about "England either" as I enjoy football as a game and spectacle - not some corporate sports package designed to bring in a bigger global audience = more profits for the already rich.

Iggy wrote:

Mind you that was said about the Rugby world cup as well.

Not as loudly. Not as annoyingly. Not as veciforously. And anyway England rugby won by playing a game the entire southern hemisphere hates with a kicker who in between decades of injury luckily carried a team to the finals.

Different game altogether.

Iggy wrote:

Anyway what the feck is that meant to mean? We should just give up and not bother?

Do you have any idea how the rest of the world views the England team and its supporters? They are NOT well liked. Reason is coz we talk ourselves up like we're mustard, but actually we are shit shit shit. Add the hooligan element and their moronic, xenophobic nature and I, as an embarrassed ex pat, truly hope the national team continue to abjectedly fail; with their legions of shell suited coaches and hangers on, sat row upon row behind the dugout with their heads in their hands when we get outplayed and beaten again and again. It is hilarious. Hahaha. feck the england team. Any team with John fuckin terry as its captain deserves absolute disdain.

FA consulted no one and left Rio Ferdinand to map it all out- this idea was set up for failure. It won't happen.

Greg always did have a strong relationship with fans of lower division clubs;

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Think it also worth noting that I can see nothing particularly special about England, other than its language and swarms of sky tv morons funding the debt, that makes its top league have the global appeal it undoubtedly has. The vast majority of top players in the pl would upsticks and play in Spain or Germany or anywhere in an instant if their top leagues suddenly surpassed the global tv exposure and thereby wages, that the pl has.

And if I hear England fans given it the old two world wars and one world cup shit against Germany again, or indeed any xenophobic or racist chanting, I sincerely hope we lose and are humiliated 10 feckin nil.

Wankers. Embarassing. Cretinous. Wankers.