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Dougie

Posts: 2110 Join date: 2011-12-02
 | Subject: Re: CHRIS WEBB-STATEMENT Thu Nov 01 2012, 18:30 | |
| Chris Webb accused me on here of using foul and abusive language and stalking celebrities all on Twitter. Neither of which is true. I ask for an apology. None was forthcoming. It upset some people close to me. Should I go to the police? |
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Guest Guest
 | Subject: Re: CHRIS WEBB-STATEMENT Thu Nov 01 2012, 18:34 | |
| | Dougie wrote: | | Chris Webb accused me on here of using foul and abusive language and stalking celebrities all on Twitter. Neither of which is true. I ask for an apology. None was forthcoming. It upset some people close to me. Should I go to the police? |
I would write to your MP, civic leaders, the club, all former managers and players, Tony Snooper and tweet Frankie Boyle |
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mouldyoldgoat

Posts: 3676 Join date: 2011-12-22 Age: 50 Location: Berkshire
 | Subject: Re: CHRIS WEBB-STATEMENT Thu Nov 01 2012, 18:42 | |
| | Dougie wrote: | | Chris Webb accused me on here of using foul and abusive language and stalking celebrities all on Twitter. Neither of which is true. I ask for an apology. None was forthcoming. It upset some people close to me. Should I go to the police? |
By celebrities did he mean him and Mr Newell? _________________ I'm one of the common people so says the wife! (A true GSG Girl)
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Moist_Von_Lipwig
Posts: 543 Join date: 2011-10-07
 | Subject: Re: CHRIS WEBB-STATEMENT Thu Nov 01 2012, 18:44 | |
| So, a person who is perceived by the president to be negative about the club (several posts questioning JBs approach/motives) is not deemed fit to write for the programme.
However that same person has been thanked for their offer of help ("I'll give you a shout when I know more" - therefore deemed fit) in a high profile club campaign (TV onboard).
Double standards? |
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Guest Guest
 | Subject: Re: CHRIS WEBB-STATEMENT Thu Nov 01 2012, 18:44 | |
| | Dougie wrote: | | Chris Webb accused me on here of using foul and abusive language and stalking celebrities all on Twitter. Neither of which is true. I ask for an apology. None was forthcoming. It upset some people close to me. Should I go to the police? |
He may have confused you with Dane Bunney. |
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Greenjock

Posts: 8210 Join date: 2012-01-25 Age: 42 Location: Wiltshire
 | Subject: Re: CHRIS WEBB-STATEMENT Thu Nov 01 2012, 18:54 | |
| I'm a bit dim when it comes to all the IP address stuff and what it all means, but from what I can gather Chris Webb has posted under more than one account on ATD? And one of the accounts used the same proxy server as an account that the mods think is or was being used by different people, ala Deepthroat? If that isn't correct or I'm missing something could someone explain in dumbed down terms for me please Also, with proxy servers, is it the location that gives the identification, or is it the handset, laptop, tablet or whatever hardware is being used? What I'm trying to grasp is, unlikely as it may seem, would someone stood next to Chris Webb, or very close by, have the same proxy server details? I think you all know where I might be going with all this, but I truly am baffled by it all. |
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Guest Guest
 | Subject: Re: CHRIS WEBB-STATEMENT Thu Nov 01 2012, 19:02 | |
| Hairy: over the (many) years I've been on this planet, I've been known to associate with - and even form REAL friendships with - all kinds of people, from members of Parliament, professors and top barristers to drug addicts and convicted criminals. None of them have ever been responsible for decisions I've taken: that rests with me. Moist: you're absolutely right. The reason Webb contacted me in the first place was to ask me to help with a proposed anti-racism initiative (which, by the way, I haven't seen any evidence of). I did point out that this was a bit contradictory, given what he'd done. But then it's also contradictory that a campaign was waged to oust a volunteer at the same time as volunteers were being sought to do all sorts of other stuff for the club. Everybody (nearly): thank you for all the support. I got very angry and upset when I saw the president's post, and you've made me feel a bit better. Now. I wonder what would happen if I were to write to James Brent and say Chris Webb shouldn't be the president? After all, I think it's the right thing to do. |
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Yea Man

Posts: 4249 Join date: 2011-12-21
 | Subject: Re: CHRIS WEBB-STATEMENT Thu Nov 01 2012, 19:08 | |
| | Greenjock wrote: | I'm a bit dim when it comes to all the IP address stuff and what it all means, but from what I can gather Chris Webb has posted under more than one account on ATD?
And one of the accounts used the same proxy server as an account that the mods think is or was being used by different people, ala Deepthroat?
If that isn't correct or I'm missing something could someone explain in dumbed down terms for me please
Also, with proxy servers, is it the location that gives the identification, or is it the handset, laptop, tablet or whatever hardware is being used?
What I'm trying to grasp is, unlikely as it may seem, would someone stood next to Chris Webb, or very close by, have the same proxy server details?
I think you all know where I might be going with all this, but I truly am baffled by it all. |
With Proxy servers they give a false IP and location, but on the tracing it gives a web address of the proxy but a unique reference number for that proxy. Anybody posting from that proxy would come up with the same location as where the proxy is based.
What we have is two posts made by The President from a proxy with matching location, servers and IP's that follow the pattern of moving up in a consecutive number at the end of an IP: example being 111.11.11.01, the next post was 111.11.11.02 (IP's changed for obvious reasons) A post was then made by another poster, same proxy, same location with IP 111.11.11.03. It's harder to show without the real IP being shown but I think that shows what we mean. _________________ Webb out. Larrieu for president.
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Greenjock

Posts: 8210 Join date: 2012-01-25 Age: 42 Location: Wiltshire
 | Subject: Re: CHRIS WEBB-STATEMENT Thu Nov 01 2012, 19:57 | |
| | Yea Man wrote: | | Greenjock wrote: | I'm a bit dim when it comes to all the IP address stuff and what it all means, but from what I can gather Chris Webb has posted under more than one account on ATD?
And one of the accounts used the same proxy server as an account that the mods think is or was being used by different people, ala Deepthroat?
If that isn't correct or I'm missing something could someone explain in dumbed down terms for me please
Also, with proxy servers, is it the location that gives the identification, or is it the handset, laptop, tablet or whatever hardware is being used?
What I'm trying to grasp is, unlikely as it may seem, would someone stood next to Chris Webb, or very close by, have the same proxy server details?
I think you all know where I might be going with all this, but I truly am baffled by it all. |
With Proxy servers they give a false IP and location, but on the tracing it gives a web address of the proxy but a unique reference number for that proxy. Anybody posting from that proxy would come up with the same location as where the proxy is based.
What we have is two posts made by The President from a proxy with matching location, servers and IP's that follow the pattern of moving up in a consecutive number at the end of an IP: example being 111.11.11.01, the next post was 111.11.11.02 (IP's changed for obvious reasons) A post was then made by another poster, same proxy, same location with IP 111.11.11.03. It's harder to show without the real IP being shown but I think that shows what we mean. |
Thanks YM, I understand it a little better, but how do you post from a proxy in the first place? I mean if I am posting from my laptop at home I understand that this gives you my I.P. Adress, and I'm connected by wi-fi, but does my I.P. address differ if I use my phone to post also using the same Wi-fi? And again does this differ if I post from my phone not using wi-fi? I sort of thought that if you are on a mobile and not connected by wi-fi, this is where a proxy kicks in?
Sorry but I really am dim on these matters.
I guess I'm asking if it is the device that leaves the imprint, or if it the location? And if the location can be masked by connecting via 3G instead of wi-fi?
I'm planning on wreaking havoc with the information I get back off you |
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Yea Man

Posts: 4249 Join date: 2011-12-21
 | Subject: Re: CHRIS WEBB-STATEMENT Thu Nov 01 2012, 20:00 | |
| To post from a proxy you would have to physically do so.
If you were to type into google "anonymous proxy" you will see what I mean.
Once on the proxy website you type in the address you want to visit and you then visit the website but from behind the proxy.
If you post from a mobile it still gives a location, IP and netowrk provider and sometimes the type of mobile. Blackberry always come up.
If you connect to the internet using your ISP (sky, virgin etc) then you aren't behind a proxy unless you physically choose to be.
_________________ Webb out. Larrieu for president.
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Greenjock

Posts: 8210 Join date: 2012-01-25 Age: 42 Location: Wiltshire
 | Subject: Re: CHRIS WEBB-STATEMENT Thu Nov 01 2012, 20:19 | |
| Ok gotcha now. Sorry I was genuinely interested to see to what lengths people have been going that's all. |
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Tringreen

Posts: 6705 Join date: 2011-05-10 Age: 62 Location: Larnaca, Cyprus
 | Subject: Re: CHRIS WEBB-STATEMENT Thu Nov 01 2012, 20:35 | |
| Get rid of Gob, Rickler and Tring. ATD would be a nice little forumm |
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Greenjock

Posts: 8210 Join date: 2012-01-25 Age: 42 Location: Wiltshire
 | Subject: Re: CHRIS WEBB-STATEMENT Thu Nov 01 2012, 20:52 | |
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Sufferedsince68
Posts: 973 Join date: 2012-09-15
 | Subject: Re: CHRIS WEBB-STATEMENT Thu Nov 01 2012, 21:10 | |
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GOB

Posts: 4967 Join date: 2012-02-21
 | Subject: Re: CHRIS WEBB-STATEMENT Thu Nov 01 2012, 21:22 | |
| It's not me, it's just Tring and Rickler |
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LondonGreen

Posts: 381 Join date: 2011-11-17 Location: Bedford (ironically)
 | Subject: Re: CHRIS WEBB-STATEMENT Thu Nov 01 2012, 21:25 | |
| And there i was thinking the Site Section was just for boring admin related issues |
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Sensiblegreeny
Posts: 1613 Join date: 2011-12-23 Location: Plymouth
 | Subject: Re: CHRIS WEBB-STATEMENT Thu Nov 01 2012, 21:54 | |
| It's for waving a LOL flag as they haven't got a real one and they're only jealous. |
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The Red Star
Posts: 761 Join date: 2011-06-01 Location: Exeter, Antigua, Florida, Belfast
 | Subject: Re: CHRIS WEBB-STATEMENT Thu Nov 01 2012, 23:11 | |
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Tringreen

Posts: 6705 Join date: 2011-05-10 Age: 62 Location: Larnaca, Cyprus
 | Subject: Re: CHRIS WEBB-STATEMENT Fri Nov 02 2012, 08:46 | |
| | Moist_Von_Lipwig wrote: | So, a person who is perceived by the president to be negative about the club (several posts questioning JBs approach/motives) is not deemed fit to write for the programme.
However that same person has been thanked for their offer of help ("I'll give you a shout when I know more" - therefore deemed fit) in a high profile club campaign (TV onboard).
Double standards? |
It's how they operate.You'll get used to it.
I call it, 'low cunning'............................... or 'thick janners'. |
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PlymptonPilgrim

Posts: 626 Join date: 2011-08-21
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Tringreen

Posts: 6705 Join date: 2011-05-10 Age: 62 Location: Larnaca, Cyprus
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GOB

Posts: 4967 Join date: 2012-02-21
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Person Of Interest

Posts: 542 Join date: 2011-11-24 Age: 64 Location: Hartland, N Devon.
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GOB

Posts: 4967 Join date: 2012-02-21
 | Subject: Re: CHRIS WEBB-STATEMENT Sat Nov 03 2012, 10:13 | |
| They just can't stop digging holes can they |
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GOB

Posts: 4967 Join date: 2012-02-21
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