League One For Argyle (*awaiting the press release)

Les Miserable wrote:

harvetheslayer wrote:

Argyle are 99.9% promoted here. L2 has agreed on a points per game average. No arguements they all agreed. Period
Now if the other leagues want to battle on play behind closed doors so be it to determine promotion/relegation but it doesnt effect Argyle

We are promoted.

Not at all, if league one decides to null and void there will be no promotion from league two.

exactly all rests on league one and the championship as that will have a knock on effect too especially with relegations if there are no promotions.

From what I could gather its only three clubs in lge 1 digging their heels in and they are likely to be outvoted by the others? The media aren't making much of the chances of no promotion and most are more or less saying our promotions just awaiting a rubber stamp. Let's hope so.

Biggest threat comes from the PL. If the Prem votes to become a closed shop this season and the FA agrees, which very well may happen to get the relegation clubs at the bottom to agree to neutral grounds, then the Championship won't have have relegation if they can't have promotion and L1 and L2 will have to follow suit. Who's going Crawley?

Looks like Monday is the crunch day, don't uncork the champers just yet
all you excited ATD'rs.

Angry wrote:

Les Miserable wrote:

harvetheslayer wrote:

Argyle are 99.9% promoted here. L2 has agreed on a points per game average. No arguements they all agreed. Period
Now if the other leagues want to battle on play behind closed doors so be it to determine promotion/relegation but it doesnt effect Argyle

We are promoted.

Not at all, if league one decides to null and void there will be no promotion from league two.

exactly all rests on league one and the championship as that will have a knock on effect too especially with relegations if there are no promotions.

In that case void the lot including of course the Premier League ! Now we already know thats not going to happen clearly.
Argyle will be promoted but yes League 1 and the Championship must work out how their going to decide on promotion/relegation but that will happen

If League 1 and 2 is voided than clearly EPL must as well even if under a different umbrella. We all know thats not going to happen

Argyle are promoted (yeah screenshot away Yankee boy xx).....Thats not you Angry by the way lol

Biggest obstacle the PL have to surmount in closing the league is Leeds they will kick up fook and they are a big club with a big fanbase. You'd never hear the end of it. Not only that but then they would void their league and they have Liverpool 25pts ahead of the others and rightly so should be awarded the prem title. Voiding the league will upset way more people than what they are proposing with legs 1 and 2.

The more I think about it the more I'm convinced we'll still be a L2 team next season. I think no way forward will be found with discussions and it will end up with a very reluctant agreement for no promotions or relegations, except for Swindon who go up to make L1 back to 24 teams again and Barrow up from the NL to replace them. Apart from those changes all 4 divisions will start next season as they are now.

harvetheslayer wrote:

Angry wrote:

Les Miserable wrote:

harvetheslayer wrote:

Argyle are 99.9% promoted here. L2 has agreed on a points per game average. No arguements they all agreed. Period
Now if the other leagues want to battle on play behind closed doors so be it to determine promotion/relegation but it doesnt effect Argyle

We are promoted.

Not at all, if league one decides to null and void there will be no promotion from league two.

exactly all rests on league one and the championship as that will have a knock on effect too especially with relegations if there are no promotions.

In that case void the lot including of course the Premier League !  Now we already know thats not going to happen clearly.
Argyle will be promoted but yes League 1 and the Championship must work out how their going to decide on promotion/relegation but that will happen

If League 1 and 2 is voided than clearly EPL must as well even if under a different umbrella. We all know thats not going to happen

Argyle are promoted (yeah screenshot away Yankee boy xx).....Thats not you Angry by the way lol

thats ok i have canadian roots anyways lol, voiding is still an option if there is too much division in how to move forward but there has to be a point where the EFL, FA, Premiership make the desicion regardless whether it makes some teams happy or not. the relegation scenerio could be resolved with an playoff situation if teams still kick off about not having the chance of staying up.

Freathy wrote:

The more I think about it the more I'm convinced we'll still be a L2 team next season. I think no way forward will be found with discussions and it will end up with a very reluctant agreement for no promotions or relegations, except for Swindon who go up to make L1 back to 24 teams again and Barrow up from the NL to replace them.  Apart from those changes all 4 divisions will start next season as they are now.

91 teams still next season

L1 next season for sure, Freathy’s just being Freathy

Couple of clubs trying to stay in the PL would likely take legal action if they get "relegated" without the season being played out. Playing at neutral venues has already been ruled out after objections from Aston Villa. And there's a similar scenario at the top of the Championship.

But the other side of the coin is that it's quite likely that a number of Clubs in L1 and L2 might not survive to next season.

I wouldn't take anything for granted until the next season starts-and feck knows when that will be.

I don't understand why the neutral grounds!

mouldyoldgoat wrote:

I don't understand why the neutral grounds!

i think maybe they are clearly trying to avoid covidiots gathering outside grounds of home teams breaking all the rules and such ruining the whole point of this taking place and have scenes like its transfer deadline day on sky sports news.

its still going to happen no matter what but on neutral grounds it might limit the number. Another thought is they could host them in 4-5 stadiums that they can control and make watertight security and checks without having to move it all around.

mouldyoldgoat wrote:

I don't understand why the neutral grounds!

Home fans would congregate and defeat the whole idea of empty grounds....easier to control a neutral venue I assume ?

I didn't think of that!

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Plymouth Argyle (3rd, automatic promotion)

Plymouth are set to earn promotion to League One under the proposals, but said in a club statement that Friday's meeting was "just one important step in the process before any such decision can be finalised".
"We understand that fans will, rightly, want to celebrate the achievements of Ryan Lowe and his first-team squad," the statement continued. "We endeavour to be as transparent as possible throughout this process, and will update supporters as and when we have more information to share.
"In the meantime, we will continue to work with the EFL, its member clubs and key stakeholders to reach a solution."

I see it's being reported that L1 preference is for only 2 teams to be relegated - Bolton and Southend. Tranmere likely to get a reprieve. Assuming it's agreed that 3 will go up from L1 (far from certain as that depends on the Championship), that means only 3 up from L2. In which case I really don't think the 3rd spot place in L2 will go up automatically but will be sucked into the play-offs somehow. How that's done I don't know but I think it's very unlikely now we will be promoted automatically. If only 2 up from L1 then it's FGR next season for us.

Freathy wrote:

I see it's being reported that L1 preference is for only 2 teams to be relegated  - Bolton and Southend.  Tranmere likely to get a reprieve.  Assuming it's agreed that 3 will go up from L1 (far from certain as that depends on the Championship), that means only 3 up from L2.  In which case I really don't think the 3rd spot place in L2 will go up automatically but will be sucked into the play-offs somehow.  How that's done I don't know but I think it's very unlikely now we will be promoted automatically.  If only 2 up from L1 then it's FGR next season for us.

Not that I think that will happen anyway but your forgetting L1 is one team short, so if only 2 go down from L1 3 can still be promoted from L2

Graiser wrote:

Freathy wrote:

I see it's being reported that L1 preference is for only 2 teams to be relegated  - Bolton and Southend.  Tranmere likely to get a reprieve.  Assuming it's agreed that 3 will go up from L1 (far from certain as that depends on the Championship), that means only 3 up from L2.  In which case I really don't think the 3rd spot place in L2 will go up automatically but will be sucked into the play-offs somehow.  How that's done I don't know but I think it's very unlikely now we will be promoted automatically.  If only 2 up from L1 then it's FGR next season for us.

Not that I think that will happen anyway but your forgetting L1 is one team short, so if only 2 go down from L1 3 can still be promoted from L2

Either top three go up or non at all, why should anyone be treated any different?

Graiser wrote:

Freathy wrote:

I see it's being reported that L1 preference is for only 2 teams to be relegated  - Bolton and Southend.  Tranmere likely to get a reprieve.  Assuming it's agreed that 3 will go up from L1 (far from certain as that depends on the Championship), that means only 3 up from L2.  In which case I really don't think the 3rd spot place in L2 will go up automatically but will be sucked into the play-offs somehow.  How that's done I don't know but I think it's very unlikely now we will be promoted automatically.  If only 2 up from L1 then it's FGR next season for us.

Not that I think that will happen anyway but your forgetting L1 is one team short, so if only 2 go down from L1 3 can still be promoted from L2

That's what I said 3 up from L2. But the point is the top 2 would go up automatically and the third promotion place would then have to be decided by play-offs. That's what I think will happen if Tranmere don't go down - which is what L1 clubs want.

Freathy wrote:

Graiser wrote:

Freathy wrote:

I see it's being reported that L1 preference is for only 2 teams to be relegated  - Bolton and Southend.  Tranmere likely to get a reprieve.  Assuming it's agreed that 3 will go up from L1 (far from certain as that depends on the Championship), that means only 3 up from L2.  In which case I really don't think the 3rd spot place in L2 will go up automatically but will be sucked into the play-offs somehow.  How that's done I don't know but I think it's very unlikely now we will be promoted automatically.  If only 2 up from L1 then it's FGR next season for us.

Not that I think that will happen anyway but your forgetting L1 is one team short, so if only 2 go down from L1 3 can still be promoted from L2

That's what I said 3 up from L2.  But the point is the top 2 would go up automatically and the third promotion place would then have to be decided by play-offs.  That's what I think will happen if Tranmere don't go down - which is what L1 clubs want.

Why is Tranmeres case an exception to the rule?

Earwegoagain wrote:

Freathy wrote:

Graiser wrote:

Freathy wrote:

I see it's being reported that L1 preference is for only 2 teams to be relegated  - Bolton and Southend.  Tranmere likely to get a reprieve.  Assuming it's agreed that 3 will go up from L1 (far from certain as that depends on the Championship), that means only 3 up from L2.  In which case I really don't think the 3rd spot place in L2 will go up automatically but will be sucked into the play-offs somehow.  How that's done I don't know but I think it's very unlikely now we will be promoted automatically.  If only 2 up from L1 then it's FGR next season for us.

Not that I think that will happen anyway but your forgetting L1 is one team short, so if only 2 go down from L1 3 can still be promoted from L2

That's what I said 3 up from L2.  But the point is the top 2 would go up automatically and the third promotion place would then have to be decided by play-offs.  That's what I think will happen if Tranmere don't go down - which is what L1 clubs want.

Why is Tranmeres case an exception to the rule?

Tranmere shouldn't be an exception and they should be relegated. But L1 clubs would point to Stevenage being spared relegation to the NL as decided by L2 clubs. If Stevenage stay up then we must expect Tranmere to stay up and us to battle it out in the play-offs. I think the EFL will take the path of least resistance.

You can’t change the rules during a season, 3 auto promotion and 1 from the playoffs, the only way that won’t happen is if the season is null and voided and that’s not going to happen.
Stevenage haven’t been spared relegation, the vote was for no relegation from L2 but that has to be ratified by the EFL and according to today’s Mail that’s unlikely.
However Macclesfield players have not been paid all their wages again and what they did get was late and it’s a possibility of another points deduction which would relegate them
Quite interesting on Talksport this afternoon, interviewing Lee Power whose implying it’s a guarantee there will be clubs going to the wall

I will take any kind of promotion that gets us out of this shit league, just wonder how many clubs in the lower leagues will be left to take part next season?