New Zealand v England - Cricket

All ait fer 58. WALOS.

The lack of preparation for the tour with a wanky 15 aside game, the lack of culpability following a pumping in the Ashes, the brazen disregard for years of county history...

This is a thoroughly deserved pasting.

At least we've persevered with Cookie, Broady and Mo.

I like it when England lose in cricket, especially to a smaller country like NZ.

Shirley mental illness should be taken into consideration before people judge these poor chaps [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]

We were talking at golf today about the entourage that England take on tour with them to supposedly enhance performances. Press relations people, psychologists, fitness coaches, batting coaches, fielding coaches, bowling coaches and all the rest of it-sum total of their beneficial input is obviously feck all and the same applies to the level below, the England "Lions" were bowled out time after time in the West Indies by a spinner who would probably have been ranked as average county standard a few years ago. Not good and surely the results of this winter must be the subject of a review by the ECB to see how better value for money can be obtained, unless jobs for the boys overrides all else. Williamson and Bpult have absolutely embarrassed England in this match through basics such as playing the ball late with a straight bat and simple but swift footwork in one discipline, by good line and length and just enough late movement in the other. Disturbing indictment of the lack of all purpose cricketers in production now,not just in England in all fairness.

Ashes 2017/18.....Sandpaper...4-0...England ?

zyph wrote:

Ashes 2017/18.....Sandpaper...4-0...England ?

Afraid not,hope this overblown nonsense doesn't deflect attention away from Englands abysmal showing and somehow get used as a poor excuse for the Ashes debacle-don't think there is much evidence that Boult or Southee tampered with the ball when bowling them out for 58.

Dropped Mo and Wo, appazza.

I recks we'll get a draw this time araind

Struggling ter get too het up abait the ball tampering, an defo feel they've escape goat-d Warner.

Chuck a 3 game ban on Smith an Bancroft, probably remove Lehmann as coach - get the feck on with it.

Ball tampering is probably good fer the game anyway, although their famous 'line' has been crossed...