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PostSubject: Re: ADAMS IN   Wed Sep 27, 2017 10:05 am

Frank Bullitt wrote:
It's a shame that it's had to come to this for fans to open their eyes about Brent.



They have at last seen the light.
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PostSubject: Re: ADAMS IN   Wed Sep 27, 2017 10:17 am

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Angry wrote:
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Adams in! (until xmas at least) popcorn

if results dont improve by November first he has to go there is no skirting around this.

Brent is handicapping him with a very shit budget and lack of interest in anything football related and has a lot to answer for especially where the money has gone, he isnt going anywhere sadly as gimps on pasoti will love him no matter what and a shit hole like milehouse needs a 4star hotel by 2020.

Bristol rovers away
Fleetwood home
shrewsbury home
Blackburn away
Wimbledon away
Rochdale home

those are the games up until November when we enter the fa cup. (i'm not counting the checkatrade nothing trophy match next week)Hopefully some of our injured players (Oscar and taylor and luke) will be back to give us more quality.
so yes, i'll change my perspective and say he's got until November.
however, you're also correct with the big question, where has all the money gone Mr Brent?
Time for another fans forum perhaps? popcorn



Those fixtures look horrid.

If Argyle only pick up a tiny point here or there, Adams will then need to answer for himself and his team. The side already look locked into a relegation fight (if it even gets to that), as they could easily be propping up League One for weeks on end.

The budget that Brent has handed over in that spare change bag is not helping and that grates me no end. I like Adams, his tactics are questionable at times, but he seems an ok chap who just wishes to do a good job. Shame the Boardroom are lacking in full on financial support.

If that lot over the road there somehow get Adams sacked or even force him to resign, that would not be sporting at all.
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PostSubject: Re: ADAMS IN   Wed Sep 27, 2017 10:22 am

Even Newell and his rat pack mods are having difficulty in putting decent spin on a club thats a total basket case
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PostSubject: Re: ADAMS IN   Wed Sep 27, 2017 10:22 am

The budget is the over-riding factor - the quality of players brought in has been alarming. As Greeny pointed out here or elsewhere, they are misfits generally unwanted by their clubs, Edwards excluded.

But there is a lot of shit happening behind the scenes. Not a full mutiny, but a number of disgruntled players. Jervis had a bust up and left the ground before kickoff on Saturday, I heard.

Then u have Carey's situation. If there's disharmony in the Boardroom too then chuck that in also.

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PostSubject: Re: ADAMS IN   Wed Sep 27, 2017 10:26 am

The Fletcher Years are not fondly remembered; the Sheridan Years are not fondly remembered; if Adams gets sacked and we end up going down the Adams Years won't be recalled fondly either.

Or we could just refer to the lot as the Brent Years.
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PostSubject: Re: ADAMS IN   Wed Sep 27, 2017 10:28 am

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Even Newell and his rat pack mods are having difficulty in putting decent spin on a club thats a total basket case

If you put Lewis Hamilton in a team that could only afford £1000 to buy an old mini he wouldn't be winning many Grands Prix.

Would that make him a crap driver?
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PostSubject: Re: ADAMS IN   Wed Sep 27, 2017 10:30 am

he would be an 'underachieving' driver.
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PostSubject: Re: ADAMS IN   Wed Sep 27, 2017 10:31 am

actually I'm wrong, he would be an 'failing to overachieve' driver, still cant sniff, needs must, hotels and offices cost money you know.
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PostSubject: Re: ADAMS IN   Wed Sep 27, 2017 10:34 am

I can hear them now: "Bought the wrong mini, didn't he!"
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PostSubject: Re: ADAMS IN   Wed Sep 27, 2017 10:42 am

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If Adams had a pallet of bricks Brent would set hem aside for the mankover, it would deffo get classed as a material asset for the accounts as well.
Inno you're deluded.

No, I'm not. Brent's funding tactics might be largely preparing the club for failure in League One but it doesn't explain us being bottom with 5 points after 10 games. The situation is more nuanced than that, just like politics....and just like politics both here and Pasoti end up like UKIP - single issue concerns.
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PostSubject: Re: ADAMS IN   Wed Sep 27, 2017 10:46 am

Sir Francis Drake wrote:
The Fletcher Years are not fondly remembered; the Sheridan Years are not fondly remembered; if Adams gets sacked and we end up going down the Adams Years won't be recalled fondly either.

Or we could just refer to the lot as the Brent Years.

OK, but for the sake of balance shall we also include the Sturrock MKII Years, the Mariner Years and the Reid Years. We've been shit since Holloway was in charge.
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PostSubject: Re: ADAMS IN   Wed Sep 27, 2017 10:58 am

or to put it another way, shit since the money ran out.
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PostSubject: Re: ADAMS IN   Wed Sep 27, 2017 11:06 am

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or to put it another way, shit since the money ran out.

That to an extent (though there never really was much in the first place) but more since we had managers who could make a team more than the sum of its parts: Sturrock 1 (in particular), Pulis and Holloway...with a small blip in the big-framed shape of Bobby Williamson.

Adams has been doing that so far but it looks like it's coming off the rails. For the record, I'm firmly in the camp of him being an over-achieving manager. Wembley was insipid crap but other than that, the guy has done a great job. I also think he should be given the chance to turn it around and that should involve some significant financial help. Still, bottom and starting to look adrift already is partly on him and the players.
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PostSubject: Re: ADAMS IN   Wed Sep 27, 2017 11:18 am

On The farm they put the call out for Luggy don't they remember last time ?
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PostSubject: Re: ADAMS IN   Wed Sep 27, 2017 11:19 am

Sir Francis Drake wrote:
harvetheslayer wrote:
Even Newell and his rat pack mods are having difficulty in putting decent spin on a club thats a total basket case

If you put Lewis Hamilton in a team that could only afford £1000 to buy an old mini he wouldn't be winning many Grands Prix.

Would that make him a crap driver?

No we just blame R*sberg
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PostSubject: Re: ADAMS IN   Wed Sep 27, 2017 11:51 am

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On The farm they put the call out for Luggy don't they remember last time ?

He is a relic of the past that is out of touch with modern football which his second spell proved.
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PostSubject: Re: ADAMS IN   Wed Sep 27, 2017 11:58 am

Sir Francis Drake wrote:
harvetheslayer wrote:
Even Newell and his rat pack mods are having difficulty in putting decent spin on a club thats a total basket case

If you put Lewis Hamilton in a team that could only afford £1000 to buy an old mini he wouldn't be winning many Grands Prix.

Would that make him a crap driver?

but mclaren got rid of honda now so Alonso will win again next year
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PostSubject: Re: ADAMS IN   Wed Sep 27, 2017 12:14 pm

Angry wrote:
Jethro wrote:
On The farm they put the call out for Luggy don't they remember last time ?

He is a relic of the past that is out of touch with modern football which his second spell proved.

Friend of mine is a Yeovil fan and would go along with that,

Its a shame MK2 taints Mk1
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PostSubject: Re: ADAMS IN   Wed Sep 27, 2017 1:37 pm

Innocent Egbunike wrote:
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If Adams had a pallet of bricks Brent would set hem aside for the mankover, it would deffo get classed as a material asset for the accounts as well.
Inno you're deluded.

No, I'm not. Brent's funding tactics might be largely preparing the club for failure in League One but it doesn't explain us being bottom with 5 points after 10 games. The situation is more nuanced than that, just like politics....and just like politics both here and Pasoti end up like UKIP - single issue concerns.

I'd argue that it does explain why we are bottom after ten games it was my worry in the summer when we were recruiting players with no history of scoring goals. Check my posts and Skinnys. The most expensive signing that Adams has been allowed to make is Blissett for £15k from Torquay where he was hardly pulling up trees either. It was obvious to all fans that we needed either a couple of proven strikers or take a punt on a couple of young promising strikers like Peterborough have done. You can't sign them for £15k more like £150-£300k but we are led to believe that is unsustainable, absolute bollocks, one of those strikers comes good and you get promoted with large crowds behind them then sell them for a couple of mill. The Blissett scene (and I dont hate Blis by any means hes a trooper and works hard but he isnt the answer) leads us to another relegation, dwindling crowds and more budget cuts, not only could we afford decent players for this league we really can't afford not to as Brent and his apologists are finding out now.
We have had the bumper Liverpool payday, other add ons and one of the best attendances in the lower leagues at the top end of the pricing structure. Money is being diverted from the team and Adams has had to sign too many "squad players" to get the numbers we need now the loans have finished. Adams will end up paying the price for Brent's piss poor management of the club and any replacement will have exactly the same problem. Brent's never bend attitude is causing resentment in the boardroom and this feeling is starting to pervade the club from top to bottom and now showing on the pitch. We are heading for a very sustainable relegation, probably followed by another unsustainable administration period all engineered by Brent and his ham fisted attempt at doing a job he is just not up to. He's been given so much support and backing by the fans to get to this point it's unbelievable he's managed to feck it up but he has, pasoti is even waking up to the fact now.
Brent out.
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PostSubject: Re: ADAMS IN   Wed Sep 27, 2017 1:40 pm

If we get relegated this season next season will see crowds of 2500 as we saw in the dark days of Macauley, let's see how anybody manages to fund a decent team out of that, we're doomed I tell'ee.
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PostSubject: Re: ADAMS IN   Wed Sep 27, 2017 1:52 pm

'He's been given so much support and backing by the fans'

Simple minded bobble hatted Janners who know their place and are in awe of their 'betters'
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PostSubject: Re: ADAMS IN   Wed Sep 27, 2017 1:55 pm

Like Hairy twat now saying that he doesn't believe that Adams couldn't sign a decent striker if he wanted? Is he for real? He's also advocating sacking Adams and doesn't see why Wotton and Wilmot couldn't do the job? Give me strength.
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PostSubject: Re: ADAMS IN   Wed Sep 27, 2017 2:07 pm

It's time for Adams to go public on the budget he's been given, but he won't. Quite like the guy for a couple of reasons but his style of awful defensive nonsense has reached it's glass ceiling in England at League 1 level. That sort of crap is one reason players won't sign for him, no one wants to be a cog in a negative machine the higher up the pyramid you go. Players start to have a bit about them, more than the grunt thing.
There are two people who can change things, Adams and Brent. Can't see Brent getting rid of Adams as Argyle are already overachieving just to be in League 1 on their budget. Both are pig headed and single minded in their approach to their respective businesses, which makes for poor performance once cutting it outside the creche. The discipline thing would say something has got to the players, could be anything.

Going down almost certainly, with little to be done about it. Carey's mind is elsewhere and perhaps proving why his ball playing has never reached greater heights. Couldn't be happening to a nicer regime. Sometimes these things have to happen to get rid of the bad blood, but probably too late to stop Brent's asset strip being completed, leaving just a rusting hulk of half a stadium behind.
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PostSubject: Re: ADAMS IN   Wed Sep 27, 2017 7:47 pm

There are a few campaigns online to oust him. How much would that cost the club should it actually happen.

If he is on £25,000-£30,000 per year for a four year contract, with +/- three years left, could Argyle afford +/- £75,000-£90,000 to waive his contract, because that would cripple the club and possible finances for a new manager down the line.
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PostSubject: Re: ADAMS IN   Wed Sep 27, 2017 7:51 pm

25 to 35 K ?
Shocked
Think you might need to revise that figure somewhat, Village.
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