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PostSubject: ADAMS IN   Tue Sep 12, 2017 9:25 pm

BRENT OUT
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PostSubject: Re: ADAMS IN   Tue Sep 12, 2017 9:27 pm

Derek's pulled off a feckin miracule getting us up here on that shit budget,
Not sure even he can keep us up with the shit money Brents given him.
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PostSubject: Re: ADAMS IN   Tue Sep 12, 2017 9:31 pm

Frank Bullitt wrote:
BRENT OUT
Adams is the fall guy, its in the Boardroom where the club are lacking.....Brent Out.
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PostSubject: Re: ADAMS IN   Tue Sep 12, 2017 9:34 pm

sufferedsince 68 wrote:
Frank Bullitt wrote:
BRENT OUT
Adams is the fall guy, its in the Boardroom where the club are lacking.....Brent Out.

problem is you know they would get rid of him in a shot To have Wotton as the cheap option.
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PostSubject: Re: ADAMS IN   Tue Sep 12, 2017 9:40 pm

Adams in! Working with his hands permanently tied behind his back, league 1 team with a league 2 buget. Can't possibly spend any money on the team despite selling the pavillions for 5.5mil. If Brent truly cared about Argyle that money would be on the team not in the pension pot.
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PostSubject: Re: ADAMS IN   Tue Sep 12, 2017 9:42 pm

The club has been sold down the river. Brent doesn't give a shit.
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PostSubject: Re: ADAMS IN   Tue Sep 12, 2017 9:56 pm

Jethro wrote:
sufferedsince 68 wrote:
Frank Bullitt wrote:
BRENT OUT
Adams is the fall guy, its in the Boardroom where the club are lacking.....Brent Out.

problem is you know they would get rid of him in a shot To have Wotton as the cheap option.

No they wont! How many years of Adams contract would they have to pay off?
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PostSubject: Re: ADAMS IN   Tue Sep 12, 2017 10:17 pm

In light of Dane's insistence on posting unconfirmed rumours on this forum (and nowhere else) about an Argyle player, the mods have agreed to a ban of 60 days.

He had been warned several times previously.
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PostSubject: Re: ADAMS IN   Tue Sep 12, 2017 10:22 pm

PlymptonPilgrim wrote:
In light of Dane's insistence on posting unconfirmed rumours on this forum (and nowhere else) about an Argyle player, the mods have agreed to a ban of 60 days.

He had been warned several times previously.
Good, boring little twat.
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PostSubject: Re: ADAMS IN   Tue Sep 12, 2017 10:27 pm

agreed
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PostSubject: Re: ADAMS IN   Tue Sep 12, 2017 10:51 pm

Brent funds this shit and he is cause of this rut we are in but adams cant be totally absolved of any share. His tactics dont work atm, we have too many players who have no pace and are not fit enough, And squad discipline is going back to the days of Fletcher.

its these areas where del bhey has to address and quick. Brent just needs to sod off and take his hotel and office space for 200 with him
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PostSubject: Re: ADAMS IN   Tue Sep 12, 2017 10:55 pm

akagreengull wrote:
PlymptonPilgrim wrote:
In light of Dane's insistence on posting unconfirmed rumours on this forum (and nowhere else) about an Argyle player, the mods have agreed to a ban of 60 days.

He had been warned several times previously.
Good,  boring little twat.

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PostSubject: Re: ADAMS IN   Tue Sep 12, 2017 11:20 pm

I agree with Angry, the budget is shite but so are his tactics and at the risk of offending Skinny.....the dour Scot in him is entrenched in his footballing ethos. That trait is overlooked when the team is winning but magnified when they aren't, more so than it would be in a team that at least tries to play swashbuckling attractive football. As Village would say "3 points is 3 points" but a certain amount of style carries the fans with the team and management through the barren periods imo.
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PostSubject: Re: ADAMS IN   Tue Sep 12, 2017 11:24 pm

Adams in, Brent out!
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PostSubject: Re: ADAMS IN   Wed Sep 13, 2017 8:08 am

Les Miserable wrote:
I agree with Angry, the budget is shite but so are his tactics and at the risk of offending Skinny.....the dour Scot in him is entrenched in his footballing ethos. That trait is overlooked when the team is winning but magnified when they aren't, more so than it would be in a team that at least tries to play swashbuckling attractive football. As Village would say "3 points is 3 points" but a certain amount of style carries the fans with the team and management through the barren periods imo.

Very Happy lol!  You can say that again, Les
There is the Argyle  Shite Entertainment Liberation Front you can join. We've got thousands of affiliated members. It cost nothing to join, unlike the trash served up at Home Park. The aim, to destroy the notion that dreadful dour workaday utilitarianism actually qualifies as association football.

Who would go out on a first date with someone painting such a vision, apart from Skinny  ? flower
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PostSubject: Re: ADAMS IN   Wed Sep 13, 2017 10:53 am

My top priority if I was i/c at Argyle would be to get the Mayflower Terrace re-opened. Whatever it took. It would be done and done urgently.

Brent has now been i/c for 7 years (is it?). Not a finger lifted to get it done.

The difference between us is that I care deeply about Argyle as a football club whereas Brent just sees an investment to be exploited.
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PostSubject: Re: ADAMS IN   Wed Sep 13, 2017 10:57 am

Brent would have palpitations at the cost...
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PostSubject: Re: ADAMS IN   Wed Sep 13, 2017 11:21 am

Yep. Adams in for me.
As rob_gt4 has just said on't farm, Adams should have been give more of the unbudgetted income to get a good team together this year, so where has it gone?



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PostSubject: Re: ADAMS IN   Wed Sep 13, 2017 11:22 am

Another question is do we even have a decent scouting network or do we still rely on a football manager expert still?
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PostSubject: Re: ADAMS IN   Wed Sep 13, 2017 11:27 am

Btw can someone copy/link rob_gt4 comment here from his ' unbudgetted income" thread, before it gets moved, lost or otherwise tampered with. Or worse is met with an Angry Andy reposte? I can't/am shit on my phone.

No doubt rob_gt4 is experiencing logging in difficulties or transient conditions on his browser as we speak.

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PostSubject: Re: ADAMS IN   Wed Sep 13, 2017 11:29 am

From Rob on Pasoti:

Since 2011 the club has prudently returned to profitability with timely assistance from Tony Wrathall and latterly more substantial financial assistance from Mr & Mrs Hallett. In November 2016 James Brent confirmed that we had fully repaid the PCC loan which had been used to clear the debts to all of the existing 3rd party creditors remaining from administration, and that himself, Simon Hallett and Tony Wrathall had purchased the freehold as equity (ordinary shares not repayable by the club, and no dividend) which prevented future rent and rent increases being paid to PCC, making the club effectively debt free to all 3rd parties (this was also confirmed by Simon Hallett at a PACSA meeting). 

In addition there have been substantial windfalls from transfer income, sell on income, increased gates and unbudgeted FA Cup runs:

£280k tribunal decision for Curtis Nelson
£1 million FA Cup run and Liverpool replays
£200k Conor Hourihane sell-on clause to Aston Villa
£300k Ben Purrington: 300k
£420k additional TV money ‘basic award’ and solidarity payment from being in league 1 compared to league 2

= £2.2 million


And not long before that we received:

300-500k Wembley and Playoffs
450k Joe Mason sell-on

= £750k-950k


Some of these figures are obviously educated calculations based on the information we are given so they can be pedantically debated by small amounts of difference here and there, but nevertheless we’re talking about large sums of money running into millions of pounds here.

viewtopic.php?f=30&t=97807&hilit=unbudgeted+income
Posts on here such as this one since the end of January this year have called for the large amounts of unbudgeted income (around 2 million) since clearing our debts to be given to Simon Hallett to make the grandstand refurb even better, and to bolster our playing budget as we go into league 1 .

Since these windfalls we have seen some significant welcomed development of harpers park training facilities that the club confirmed would be paid for by some of the FA cup money it received, and and some pitch and ground maintenance work at Home Park over the summer. There also may have been some player bonuses for promotion, and we’ve spent a transfer fee of 15-30k on Nathan Blissett and a very small amount of compensation to Morecambe for Ryan Edwards (Derek Adams words).


Given that it has recently been suggested that we have the 5th highest attendances in the division, but the squad appears to be devoid of quality and seemingly built on a shoestring budget, with Adams himself confirming that he’s missed out on transfer targets as other clubs merely offered more money, and other articles suggesting that Adams is overachieving as he has one of, if not the lowest budget in league 1, are we to assume that all of this additional unbudgeted income has now been spent?
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PostSubject: Re: ADAMS IN   Wed Sep 13, 2017 11:29 am

Brent out - mixed emotions re DA. Sometimes, no, a lot of the times, I'm baffled by his tactics and team selection. Saying that, on the other hand, he's doing his frustrated best with the players budget of £2.63p that tight-arse JB has afforded him.

All a bit of a mess, init!
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PostSubject: Re: ADAMS IN   Wed Sep 13, 2017 11:32 am

Yea Man wrote:
From Rob on Pasoti:

Since 2011 the club has prudently returned to profitability with timely assistance from Tony Wrathall and latterly more substantial financial assistance from Mr & Mrs Hallett. In November 2016 James Brent confirmed that we had fully repaid the PCC loan which had been used to clear the debts to all of the existing 3rd party creditors remaining from administration, and that himself, Simon Hallett and Tony Wrathall had purchased the freehold as equity (ordinary shares not repayable by the club, and no dividend) which prevented future rent and rent increases being paid to PCC, making the club effectively debt free to all 3rd parties (this was also confirmed by Simon Hallett at a PACSA meeting). 

In addition there have been substantial windfalls from transfer income, sell on income, increased gates and unbudgeted FA Cup runs:

£280k tribunal decision for Curtis Nelson
£1 million FA Cup run and Liverpool replays
£200k Conor Hourihane sell-on clause to Aston Villa
£300k Ben Purrington: 300k
£420k additional TV money ‘basic award’ and solidarity payment from being in league 1 compared to league 2

= £2.2 million


And not long before that we received:

300-500k Wembley and Playoffs
450k Joe Mason sell-on

= £750k-950k


Some of these figures are obviously educated calculations based on the information we are given so they can be pedantically debated by small amounts of difference here and there, but nevertheless we’re talking about large sums of money running into millions of pounds here.

viewtopic.php?f=30&t=97807&hilit=unbudgeted+income
Posts on here such as this one since the end of January this year have called for the large amounts of unbudgeted income (around 2 million) since clearing our debts to be given to Simon Hallett to make the grandstand refurb even better, and to bolster our playing budget as we go into league 1 .

Since these windfalls we have seen some significant welcomed development of harpers park training facilities that the club confirmed would be paid for by some of the FA cup money it received, and and some pitch and ground maintenance work at Home Park over the summer. There also may have been some player bonuses for promotion, and we’ve spent a transfer fee of 15-30k on Nathan Blissett and a very small amount of compensation to Morecambe for Ryan Edwards (Derek Adams words).


Given that it has recently been suggested that we have the 5th highest attendances in the division, but the squad appears to be devoid of quality and seemingly built on a shoestring budget, with Adams himself confirming that he’s missed out on transfer targets as other clubs merely offered more money, and other articles suggesting that Adams is overachieving as he has one of, if not the lowest budget in league 1, are we to assume that all of this additional unbudgeted income has now been spent?

Well well well. Let's see Porkzilla and his baconettes dispute this away!
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PostSubject: Re: ADAMS IN   Wed Sep 13, 2017 11:34 am

Thanks Yea Man. Let see how long it lasts on't farm after all of the recent postering.
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PostSubject: Re: ADAMS IN   Wed Sep 13, 2017 11:37 am

P.O.I wrote:
Yea Man wrote:
From Rob on Pasoti:

Since 2011 the club has prudently returned to profitability with timely assistance from Tony Wrathall and latterly more substantial financial assistance from Mr & Mrs Hallett. In November 2016 James Brent confirmed that we had fully repaid the PCC loan which had been used to clear the debts to all of the existing 3rd party creditors remaining from administration, and that himself, Simon Hallett and Tony Wrathall had purchased the freehold as equity (ordinary shares not repayable by the club, and no dividend) which prevented future rent and rent increases being paid to PCC, making the club effectively debt free to all 3rd parties (this was also confirmed by Simon Hallett at a PACSA meeting). 

In addition there have been substantial windfalls from transfer income, sell on income, increased gates and unbudgeted FA Cup runs:

£280k tribunal decision for Curtis Nelson
£1 million FA Cup run and Liverpool replays
£200k Conor Hourihane sell-on clause to Aston Villa
£300k Ben Purrington: 300k
£420k additional TV money ‘basic award’ and solidarity payment from being in league 1 compared to league 2

= £2.2 million


And not long before that we received:

300-500k Wembley and Playoffs
450k Joe Mason sell-on

= £750k-950k


Some of these figures are obviously educated calculations based on the information we are given so they can be pedantically debated by small amounts of difference here and there, but nevertheless we’re talking about large sums of money running into millions of pounds here.

viewtopic.php?f=30&t=97807&hilit=unbudgeted+income
Posts on here such as this one since the end of January this year have called for the large amounts of unbudgeted income (around 2 million) since clearing our debts to be given to Simon Hallett to make the grandstand refurb even better, and to bolster our playing budget as we go into league 1 .

Since these windfalls we have seen some significant welcomed development of harpers park training facilities that the club confirmed would be paid for by some of the FA cup money it received, and and some pitch and ground maintenance work at Home Park over the summer. There also may have been some player bonuses for promotion, and we’ve spent a transfer fee of 15-30k on Nathan Blissett and a very small amount of compensation to Morecambe for Ryan Edwards (Derek Adams words).


Given that it has recently been suggested that we have the 5th highest attendances in the division, but the squad appears to be devoid of quality and seemingly built on a shoestring budget, with Adams himself confirming that he’s missed out on transfer targets as other clubs merely offered more money, and other articles suggesting that Adams is overachieving as he has one of, if not the lowest budget in league 1, are we to assume that all of this additional unbudgeted income has now been spent?

Well well well. Let's see Porkzilla and his baconettes dispute this away!

Excellent work, indeed.

The only thing I can think of that he left out is the 6 years of continually improving average home attendances.

Apart from that just about perfect.
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