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PostSubject: Re: ADAMS IN   Mon Sep 18, 2017 7:09 am

Bump. So does anyone have any clearer idea where the unbudgetted income of 2 ish million pounds has actually gone?

Maybe this could be it's own thread which can be updated when someone gets a straight answer out of James Brent.

I find it very odd that this money, which is actual real money, not pretend, or belonging to someone else, or borrowed, that the football club earned, by itself, without leveraging off of anything else, has disappeared like a fart in the wind.
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PostSubject: Re: ADAMS IN   Mon Sep 18, 2017 11:19 am

That money won't appear until next year, or maybe the year after that, it may never turn up, these things are complicated better not worry yourself over things we will never understand. This is why we need ex Etonians to run the club for us.
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PostSubject: Re: ADAMS IN   Mon Sep 18, 2017 2:30 pm

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Bump. So does anyone have any clearer idea where the unbudgetted income of 2 ish million pounds has actually gone?

Maybe this could be it's own thread which can be updated when someone gets a straight answer out of James Brent.

I find it very odd that this money, which is actual real money, not pretend, or belonging to someone else, or borrowed, that the football club earned, by itself, without leveraging off of anything else,  has disappeared like a fart in the wind.

He has short arms and deep pockets.
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PostSubject: Re: ADAMS IN   Sun Sep 24, 2017 8:04 am

Bump.

As expected the usual suspects are trying to pin the blame on DA.

The problem is that the directors box is full of scum bags.
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PostSubject: Re: ADAMS IN   Sun Sep 24, 2017 8:35 am

I wonder how mush Brent's share in JBSOTI cost him?
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PostSubject: Re: ADAMS IN   Sun Sep 24, 2017 8:55 am

Out comes posttit to blame it on Adams rather than his wonderful Lord Brent and his piss poor budget. Nice to see people asking where the money's going at last.
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PostSubject: Re: ADAMS IN   Sun Sep 24, 2017 8:58 am

It's a shame that it's had to come to this for fans to open their eyes about Brent.
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PostSubject: Re: ADAMS IN   Sun Sep 24, 2017 9:05 am

The most important stat from yesterday is that Argyle did not have one shot on target in ninety minutes.
Donny had nine.
Tis going seriously tits up adding in the red card situation.
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PostSubject: Re: ADAMS IN   Sun Sep 24, 2017 9:08 am

The scrambles in the box looked more like non league than league 1, our big defenders getting beaten to the ball by midgets, very poor.
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PostSubject: Aec   Tue Sep 26, 2017 10:06 pm

Adams in! (until xmas at least) popcorn
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PostSubject: Re: ADAMS IN   Tue Sep 26, 2017 10:23 pm

Paul Wotton for England, but for gods sake not Argyle.
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PostSubject: Re: ADAMS IN   Tue Sep 26, 2017 11:07 pm

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Adams in! (until xmas at least) popcorn

if results dont improve by November first he has to go there is no skirting around this.

Brent is handicapping him with a very shit budget and lack of interest in anything football related and has a lot to answer for especially where the money has gone, he isnt going anywhere sadly as gimps on pasoti will love him no matter what and a shit hole like milehouse needs a 4star hotel by 2020.

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PostSubject: Re: ADAMS IN   Tue Sep 26, 2017 11:24 pm

Angry wrote:
BBC1 wrote:
Adams in! (until xmas at least) popcorn

if results dont improve by November first he has to go there is no skirting around this.

Brent is handicapping him with a very shit budget and lack of interest in anything football related and has a lot to answer for especially where the money has gone, he isnt going anywhere sadly as gimps on pasoti will love him no matter what and a shit hole like milehouse needs a 4star hotel by 2020.

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PostSubject: Re: ADAMS IN   Wed Sep 27, 2017 6:55 am

Angry wrote:
BBC1 wrote:
Adams in! (until xmas at least) popcorn

if results dont improve by November first he has to go there is no skirting around this.

Brent is handicapping him with a very shit budget and lack of interest in anything football related and has a lot to answer for especially where the money has gone, he isnt going anywhere sadly as gimps on pasoti will love him no matter what and a shit hole like milehouse needs a 4star hotel by 2020.

Bristol rovers away
Fleetwood home
shrewsbury home
Blackburn away
Wimbledon away
Rochdale home

those are the games up until November when we enter the fa cup. (i'm not counting the checkatrade nothing trophy match next week)Hopefully some of our injured players (Oscar and taylor and luke) will be back to give us more quality.
so yes, i'll change my perspective and say he's got until November.
however, you're also correct with the big question, where has all the money gone Mr Brent?
Time for another fans forum perhaps? popcorn
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PostSubject: Re: ADAMS IN   Wed Sep 27, 2017 7:32 am

BBC1 wrote:
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Time for another fans forum perhaps? popcorn

Now that you mention it... When is the next fans forum?

I might have a question!
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PostSubject: Re: ADAMS IN   Wed Sep 27, 2017 8:13 am

Rickler wrote:
BBC1 wrote:
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Time for another fans forum perhaps? popcorn

Now that you mention it...   When is the next fans forum?

I might have a question!
I bet you have! lol!
I have no idea when the next exciting one will be.
Perhaps after the planning hearing maybe? popcorn
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PostSubject: Re: ADAMS IN   Wed Sep 27, 2017 8:35 am

8 losses from 10 games for a promoted side which has retained its spine is not purely down to budget. Whilst Brent has not given Adams the tools to compete with the likes of Wigan there should be enough in that squad to have mustered more than 5 points by now.

Wasn't there last night but listened with incredulity when, at 0-0, the manager takes off the lone forward and replaces him with a defensive midfielder. That is literally saying 'come and get us' to the opposition. Just about acceptable against Liverpool but not in a league game where points are desperately required.

The reality is that Brent is going nowhere and so the logical step, if things don't like improve, is the manager loses his job. I don't want that to happen and hope Adams turns it around. Desperate times though. We can't buy a goal, can we?
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PostSubject: Re: ADAMS IN   Wed Sep 27, 2017 8:54 am

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8 losses from 10 games for a promoted side which has retained its spine is not purely down to budget. Whilst Brent has not given Adams the tools to compete with the likes of Wigan there should be enough in that squad to have mustered more than 5 points by now.

Wasn't there last night but listened with incredulity when, at 0-0, the manager takes off the lone forward and replaces him with a defensive midfielder. That is literally saying 'come and get us' to the opposition. Just about acceptable against Liverpool but not in a league game where points are desperately required.

The reality is that Brent is going nowhere and so the logical step, if things don't like improve, is the manager loses his job. I don't want that to happen and hope Adams turns it around. Desperate times though. We can't buy a goal, can we?

I think that sub reflects how anxious Derek was not to lose again and took a gamble, particularly given how well Letheren played, but yes on the face of it not to have a striker on the pitch is incredibly negative.
If we had got the nil nil Derek might have felt well justified with his tactics.
Unfortunately the lack of result came down to the quality of the players e,g Ainsworth and Edwards should really have scored. Still at least we may have a viable alternative to 'Superluke'.
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PostSubject: Re: ADAMS IN   Wed Sep 27, 2017 9:07 am

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Innocent Egbunike wrote:
8 losses from 10 games for a promoted side which has retained its spine is not purely down to budget. Whilst Brent has not given Adams the tools to compete with the likes of Wigan there should be enough in that squad to have mustered more than 5 points by now.

Wasn't there last night but listened with incredulity when, at 0-0, the manager takes off the lone forward and replaces him with a defensive midfielder. That is literally saying 'come and get us' to the opposition. Just about acceptable against Liverpool but not in a league game where points are desperately required.

The reality is that Brent is going nowhere and so the logical step, if things don't like improve, is the manager loses his job. I don't want that to happen and hope Adams turns it around. Desperate times though. We can't buy a goal, can we?

I think that sub reflects how anxious Derek was not to lose again and took a gamble, particularly given how well Letheren played, but yes on the face of it not to have a striker on the pitch is incredibly negative.
If we had got the nil nil Derek might have felt well justified with his tactics.
Unfortunately the lack of result came down to the quality of the players e,g Ainsworth and Edwards should really have scored. Still at least we may have a viable alternative to 'Superluke'.

Sure but it must simply have put more pressure on the defence which was already riding its luck at times.

Another way of looking at it is we can't be Argyle Nil every week solely down to the shitness of the players. Tactics must be playing a part. Even when we lost 9 out of 10 (?) under Sturrock MkII at the start of a season we scored more than this.
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PostSubject: Re: ADAMS IN   Wed Sep 27, 2017 9:12 am

Mr Brent does indeed have some very important decisions to ponder.


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PostSubject: Re: ADAMS IN   Wed Sep 27, 2017 9:17 am

Innocent Egbunike wrote:
8 losses from 10 games for a promoted side which has retained its spine is not purely down to budget. Whilst Brent has not given Adams the tools to compete with the likes of Wigan there should be enough in that squad to have mustered more than 5 points by now.

Wasn't there last night but listened with incredulity when, at 0-0, the manager takes off the lone forward and replaces him with a defensive midfielder. That is literally saying 'come and get us' to the opposition. Just about acceptable against Liverpool but not in a league game where points are desperately required.

The reality is that Brent is going nowhere and so the logical step, if things don't like improve, is the manager loses his job. I don't want that to happen and hope Adams turns it around. Desperate times though. We can't buy a goal, can we?

What you're seeing at the moment is a re-run of all those relegation seasons in the second tier, only this time a level lower. Exactly the same symptoms-an underfunded squad mostly losing games by the odd goal interspersed with the occasional hiding and giving a general feeling of hopelessness. Sacking managers proved to be a futile gesture then and will prove to be futile now-the only possible way that Argyle can stay up this season is if they can glean enough results to stay within about 10 points until January and then for some reasonably heavy investment to take place to bring in players good enough to meet the standard and frankly that is very unlikely. You talk of the spine of the team being retained but if that spine is not up to the mark then that becomes an irrelevance-Bolton and Forest Green are also finding out the hard way that there is certainly a gap between respective divisions. Some players can cope, some can't, no matter what the previous seasons achievements were and if you sign players who can't get into Exeter or Torquays team or who on previous outings in this division played for relegated/struggling clubs [Sawyer, Fox, Lameiras, Sarcevic, Sokolik etc] then you are asking for trouble and inevitably will get it. Very obvious from Adams public pronouncements that these players were not his first choice and probably not his second or third choice either and any manager would struggle under these circumstances-can't get shit from a rocking horse no matter what tactics or motivational methods are used.
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PostSubject: Re: ADAMS IN   Wed Sep 27, 2017 9:25 am

Innocent Egbunike wrote:
akagreengull wrote:
Innocent Egbunike wrote:
8 losses from 10 games for a promoted side which has retained its spine is not purely down to budget. Whilst Brent has not given Adams the tools to compete with the likes of Wigan there should be enough in that squad to have mustered more than 5 points by now.

Wasn't there last night but listened with incredulity when, at 0-0, the manager takes off the lone forward and replaces him with a defensive midfielder. That is literally saying 'come and get us' to the opposition. Just about acceptable against Liverpool but not in a league game where points are desperately required.

The reality is that Brent is going nowhere and so the logical step, if things don't like improve, is the manager loses his job. I don't want that to happen and hope Adams turns it around. Desperate times though. We can't buy a goal, can we?

I think that sub reflects how anxious Derek was not to lose again and took a gamble, particularly given how well Letheren played, but yes on the face of it not to have a striker on the pitch is incredibly negative.
If we had got the nil nil Derek might have felt well justified with his tactics.
Unfortunately the lack of result came down to the quality of the players e,g Ainsworth and Edwards should really have scored. Still at least we may have a viable alternative to 'Superluke'.

Sure but it must simply have put more pressure on the defence which was already riding its luck at times.

Another way of looking at it is we can't be Argyle Nil every week solely down to the shitness of the players. Tactics must be playing a part. Even when we lost 9 out of 10 (?) under Sturrock MkII at the start of a season we scored more than this.

Oh contraire, replace this team with the last team that got relegated and guess what would happen again? Replace this team with Luggy MK 1 and the reverse will happen no matter which manager you had in. I don't get why Adams is expected to buy Championship players with a conference budget? Just look at our signings and then Peterboroughs and have a think over why they are buying young hot shots and we are buying tired old donkeys.
We will end up with the same players with someone like Colin Lee in charge and that isn't a recipe for success either. It's Brent's fault, it's solely Brent's fault Adams job at the moment is akin to a brickie having to built an ornate Elizibethan chimney complete with corbling, spirals and gargoyles but only having a pallet of second hand bricks and no trowels.
Brent out.
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PostSubject: Re: ADAMS IN   Wed Sep 27, 2017 9:31 am

Greenskin wrote:
Innocent Egbunike wrote:
8 losses from 10 games for a promoted side which has retained its spine is not purely down to budget. Whilst Brent has not given Adams the tools to compete with the likes of Wigan there should be enough in that squad to have mustered more than 5 points by now.

Wasn't there last night but listened with incredulity when, at 0-0, the manager takes off the lone forward and replaces him with a defensive midfielder. That is literally saying 'come and get us' to the opposition. Just about acceptable against Liverpool but not in a league game where points are desperately required.

The reality is that Brent is going nowhere and so the logical step, if things don't like improve, is the manager loses his job. I don't want that to happen and hope Adams turns it around. Desperate times though. We can't buy a goal, can we?

What you're seeing at the moment is a re-run of all those relegation seasons in the second tier, only this time a level lower. Exactly the same symptoms-an underfunded squad mostly losing games by the odd goal interspersed with the occasional hiding and giving a general feeling of hopelessness. Sacking managers proved to be a futile gesture then and will prove to be futile now-the only possible way that Argyle can stay up this season is if they can glean enough results to stay within about 10 points until January and then for some reasonably heavy investment to take place to bring in players good enough to meet the standard and frankly that is very unlikely. You talk of the spine of the team being retained but if that spine is not up to the mark then that becomes an irrelevance-Bolton and Forest Green are also finding out the hard way that there is certainly a gap between respective divisions. Some players can cope, some can't, no matter what the previous seasons achievements were and if you sign players who can't get into Exeter or Torquays team or who on previous outings in this division played for relegated/struggling clubs [Sawyer, Fox, Lameiras, Sarcevic, Sokolik etc] then you are asking for trouble and inevitably will get it. Very obvious from Adams public pronouncements that these players were not his first choice and probably not his second or third choice either and any manager would struggle under these circumstances-can't get shit from a rocking horse no matter what tactics or motivational methods are used.

I pretty much agree with you but maintain that a promoted side usually has some sort of bounce in its first season back in the league above. Argyle's dire seasons - and this is shaping up to be one of them - have come when we've puffed around lower mid-table for a couple of years beforehand. Even under Mick Jones we survived for one season before going back down.

We're going nowhere fast under Brent's austerity regime and to that extent I feel sorry for Adams working in a restricted way....but 8 defeats from 10 after going up is neither normal or acceptable.
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PostSubject: Re: ADAMS IN   Wed Sep 27, 2017 9:33 am

you can have half a pallet of bricks and I'm expecting you to overachieve.
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PostSubject: Re: ADAMS IN   Wed Sep 27, 2017 9:48 am

If Adams had a pallet of bricks Brent would set hem aside for the mankover, it would deffo get classed as a material asset for the accounts as well.
Inno you're deluded.
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