Can We Expect A Burn And Crash Like Last Season

As Plymouth Argyle sit proudly at the top of League Two after 15 games, on 35 points at that, can we expect a burn and crash sometime between now and May 2017, thus seeing BIG TIME balls up regarding automatic promotion yet again.

Deep down that scenario is in my mind, and as much as i do not want it to be there, i can't shake it away.

I have heard it said over the past few weeks that this Argyle side will use the mistakes of last season as a spur and go on to gain automatic promotion, that remains to be seen.

One would hope that if Argyle are in the top three at Christmas and beyond, James Brent will bust a gut [sic] to further fund Derek Adams in the January transfer window, which could hopefully see the team claim one of the coveted promotion spots and an end to the dire spell the club have had in League Two.

We've already been told we're not a wealthy club in this division despite our £6m turnover.

With all the injuries we're short at the back and up front. My guess is we'll be left relying on the crocks come January and maybe a replacement for Garita if he doesn't play anytime soon. Brunt will be likened to a new signing and Sawyer will be close to returning, Del will be told to make do.

Karleigh Osborne will be another like a new signing.

VillageGreen wrote:

As Plymouth Argyle sit proudly at the top of League Two after 15 games, on 35 points at that, can we expect a burn and crash sometime between now and May 2017, thus seeing BIG TIME balls up regarding automatic promotion yet again.

Deep down that scenario is in my mind, and as much as i do not want it to be there, i can't shake it away.

I have heard it said over the past few weeks that this Argyle side will use the mistakes of last season as a spur and go on to gain automatic promotion, that remains to be seen.

One would hope that if Argyle are in the top three at Christmas and beyond, James Brent will bust a gut [sic] to further fund Derek Adams in the January transfer window, which could hopefully see the team claim one of the coveted promotion spots and an end to the dire spell the club have had in League Two.

Would a mid/lower table L1 side bring in much more revenue than a top of the table L2 side with regular playoff runs to boot? Given that the answer to that is obviously no, I don't expect any funding from Brent to help the promotion push as there is no guaranteed profit in it for him. Brent is only interested in the bottom line, that is plain for anyone without blinkers to see.

We've had a lot of luck but also DA has worked all kinds of sorcery to very quickly get this team of mostly very ordinary players (with the exception of Carey who is a class above) into what seems a determined, well drilled cohesive unit with goals coming from all positions. However, the serious promotion contenders e.g. Pompey, Carlisle, Donny and Luton will strengthen in January while we inevitably weaken with the selling of Carey. Weakened, the inevitable injuries, contracts running out, and with no investment in January means we'll fade to upper mid-table or just inside the play-off positions. We'll still be fourth division next season.

BRENT OUT

If we dont strengthen in January no matter where we are in the table then yes we will crash and burn again like we have the last 2 seasons when we didnt zip in January.

Angry wrote:

If we dont strengthen in January no matter where we are in the table then yes we will crash and burn again like we have the last 2 seasons when we didnt zip in January.

With supporters like you we don't need opposition.....hasn't Adams been there before and rectified the depth of his squad this season.

charleymouse wrote:

VillageGreen wrote:

As Plymouth Argyle sit proudly at the top of League Two after 15 games, on 35 points at that, can we expect a burn and crash sometime between now and May 2017, thus seeing BIG TIME balls up regarding automatic promotion yet again.

Deep down that scenario is in my mind, and as much as i do not want it to be there, i can't shake it away.

I have heard it said over the past few weeks that this Argyle side will use the mistakes of last season as a spur and go on to gain automatic promotion, that remains to be seen.

One would hope that if Argyle are in the top three at Christmas and beyond, James Brent will bust a gut [sic] to further fund Derek Adams in the January transfer window, which could hopefully see the team claim one of the coveted promotion spots and an end to the dire spell the club have had in League Two.

Would a mid/lower table L1 side bring in much more revenue than a top of the table L2 side with regular playoff runs to boot? Given that the answer to that is obviously no, I don't expect any funding from Brent to help the promotion push as there is no guaranteed profit in it for him. Brent is only interested in the bottom line, that is plain for anyone without blinkers to see.

I did ponder the thought that Argyle may fancy the Play-Offs for the next three or four seasons and make some cash out of it (whatever sum that could be). I would rather the side get promoted in an automatic place and take it from there.

There is still a long way to go until May and the players could very well burn out and the side crash in dramatic fashion.

Ride the wave of momentum that a league win brings - how many times do you see clubs get promoted as champions - Then consolidate and then go up again. Argyle done it last time. Ride the wave, go up, dont settle for play offs

Promotion is there for the taking and with eight thousand plus fans you would think backing for the manager in the transfer window would be a given, but no, Jimmy never backed Adams or Shezza in the previous January windows and wont again this time. There is zero ambition at the Brentihad, the hope will be making a few quid out of a playoff defeat and more fourth division football next season.

zyph wrote:

Angry wrote:

If we dont strengthen in January no matter where we are in the table then yes we will crash and burn again like we have the last 2 seasons when we didnt zip in January.

With supporters like you we don't need opposition.....hasn't Adams been there before and rectified the depth of his squad this season.

He's saying what he thinks will happen if Argyle don't strengthen, not what he hopes will happen. Supporting a club doesn't mean that you always have to be optimistic about the its prospects. Why am I not surprised that you have trotted out the old 'You'm naaat a praaapperrrrr faaaan' line?

sufferedsince 68 wrote:

Promotion is there for the taking and with eight thousand plus fans you would think backing for the manager in the transfer window would be a given, but no, Jimmy never backed Adams or Shezza in the previous January windows and wont again this time. There is zero ambition at the Brentihad, the hope will be making a few quid out of a playoff defeat and more fourth division football next season.

Cobblers or Shoemakers to that.

No

zyph wrote:

Angry wrote:

If we dont strengthen in January no matter where we are in the table then yes we will crash and burn again like we have the last 2 seasons when we didnt zip in January.

With supporters like you we don't need opposition.....hasn't Adams been there before and rectified the depth of his squad this season.

you dont remember january and he results after that when he didnt do alot to the squad despite us being top and points clear? its supporters like you brent loves as you have a shit memory

charleymouse wrote:

zyph wrote:

Angry wrote:

If we dont strengthen in January no matter where we are in the table then yes we will crash and burn again like we have the last 2 seasons when we didnt zip in January.

With supporters like you we don't need opposition.....hasn't Adams been there before and rectified the depth of his squad this season.

He's saying what he thinks will happen if Argyle don't strengthen, not what he hopes will happen. Supporting a club doesn't mean that you always have to be optimistic about the its prospects. Why am I not surprised that you have trotted out the old 'You'm naaat a praaapperrrrr faaaan' line?

thanks charley, im sure he knew what i meant as with everyone elses answers he is just getting on and gets easily confused.

zyph wrote:

Angry wrote:

If we dont strengthen in January no matter where we are in the table then yes we will crash and burn again like we have the last 2 seasons when we didnt zip in January.

With supporters like you we don't need opposition.....hasn't Adams been there before and rectified the depth of his squad this season.

the squad isnt that strong though ? lose the GK are the deputies any good ?
lose carey and who will replace his influence.......contrasts to sturrocks mob and i cant recall any really bad injuries in the XI but i could be wrong. barrett or was it craig taylor ? doesnt count mind.

We should be looking to build for next season in League 1, as well as strengthening for promotion. There will be players out of contract in summer 2017 who would jump at the chance of joining a newly promoted team.

Elias wrote:

zyph wrote:

Angry wrote:

If we dont strengthen in January no matter where we are in the table then yes we will crash and burn again like we have the last 2 seasons when we didnt zip in January.

With supporters like you we don't need opposition.....hasn't Adams been there before and rectified the depth of his squad this season.

the squad isnt that strong though ? lose the GK are the deputies any good ?
lose carey and who will replace his influence.......contrasts to sturrocks mob and i cant recall any really bad injuries in the XI but i could be wrong. barrett or was it craig taylor ? doesnt count mind.

Not so sure that McCormick is the keeper he once was.......he organized the near post cover for that free kick and then left 50% of his goal unprotected....shouldn't he be more to his right protecting that area......maybe or maybe not....debateable.....such an easy goal.

all ifs and buts,

enjoy the ride

It's an odd one with McCormick. He's at an age now when as a keeper he should be at the peak of his powers. But I'd have to agree his level of consistency, decision making and positioning have all dropped markedly below what they were from even 12 months ago. There was a time when you could go many weeks without ever questioning his part in a conceded goal. Not so now. Which I guess with us still having the best defensive record, speaks volumes for the consistency of our back four.

Czarcasm wrote:

It's an odd one with McCormick. He's at an age now when as a keeper he should be at the peak of his powers. But I'd have to agree his level of consistency, decision making and positioning have all dropped markedly below what they were from even 12 months ago. There was a time when you could go many weeks without ever questioning his part in a conceded goal. Not so now. Which I guess with us still having the best defensive record, speaks volumes for the consistency of our back four.

Both goals he conceded in the last couple of weeks were down to poor positioning, I think Derek Adams is probably on top of this what with us signing two new goalkeepers, thanks to football manager:cheers:

FM17 Out this Friday, Will Del uncover any nuggets?

Hasn't Luke been very much a saviour throughout the season? He has certainly played his part in winning a few points. The most noticeable stat for me this season is the amount of chances we're giving the opposition. Games are far too open and in all probability we've been lucky not to be punished.

Yes, especially if we lose Carey at Crimbo.

Think we are sure fire auto promotion favourites these season