STEVENAGE V PLYMOUTH ARGYLE match day thread

Freathy wrote:

Yep another unbelievable win for DA.  If he can do that with a bunch of mediocre players....

He must be top of more than a few clubs' wanted lists now.

Wont have gone unnoticed for sure

Ground out the result against a team who tried to stop them from playing by all accounts. There'll be a few of those this season. 10 unbeaten now, long may it continue.

The attendance at Stevenage by the way was 2,881 including 904 members of the GreenArmy

Not really, just playing his game I kind of enjoy his posts with the predictability of we will lose two nil every game.
You got to admit he's starting to look a bit silly given Argyle's form.

And where the fcuk is Pep Pedlars Brief Farm synopsis !!??

Three points is three points.

Still five clear at the top, but a big game against Pompey next week will provide a tougher challenge. Win the game and it could cement Argyle as promotion favourites, even at this early stage.

Les Miserable wrote:

The twats are the ones who bite...ad infinitum.

Freathy is the boss of you.

Not really.
When he's wrong it's just all a big joke and it's the twats that bite.
When he's right he's the most insightful fan in Western Europe.
So far this season he's been wrong. Alot.

Nevermind.

Sad Act looks at the bigger picture. As long as brent is the owner, any lower league success will be halted by the inevitable departure of best players and manager.

Tivvy Town Reserves 0 - Argyle Reserves 0

I didnt watch much of the game as it was bleddy chilly so i stayed in the bar next to the heater.

Argyles number 3(twatty dayglo pink boots) wouldnt pass to the number 7.

Found a kebab on the floor this morning.

Tringreen wrote:

Sad Act looks at the bigger picture. As long as brent is the owner, any lower league success will be halted by the inevitable departure of best players and manager.

Absolutely Ginge!

We're playing well and winning but like last season but it can't and won't last. DA has done an amazing job with a bunch of very ordinary players (with a few notable exceptions) even for this level. The brent effect will kick in sooner or later in the form of one or two high profile departures. Departures to proper clubs with proper owners.

Of course we're not going to lose 2-0 every match but we may as well for all the ultimate good it will do us while brent is owner.

Good job other players are scoring and were grinding out results cos if we had to rely on our strikers goodwillie for one we would be well & truely F#@Ked otherwise

Tringreen wrote:

Sad Act looks at the bigger picture. As long as brent is the owner, any lower league success will be halted by the inevitable departure of best players and manager.

This is the problem that all lower league, "smaller" teams face. In fact all teams face them because Real Madrid, Barcelona, Bayern Munich and the obvious ones in this country will always come along and snaffle the best talent talent wherever they can find it.

Obviously there's degrees of separation to this and most recently Hourihaine left us to go to Barnsley more or less citing the old Sean McCarthy mantra of "bettering himself" (SMcC went to Bradford when he said that) and I struggle to this day to see how either of them are any better than we are.

It's a Vision Thing really. There are players who stayed with Swansea and Hull as they climbed through the divisions and ended up PL players earning a fortune they could never have dreamed of and it is a similar Vision that needs to be sold to our current crop of players and manager.

Emotionally repellent though it is you can't blame the players or managers that go (it's managers display the greatest treachery when they do up sticks and leave). Football is what it is and being a footballer or manager is a capricious career path to follow. I certainly can't blame any of them for taking the money when it is on offer because most of us would up and move to a new employer if our wages were doubled or trebled - and you only have to look at the number of Argyle fans who have left the area to follow their chosen careers to see that that doesn't only apply to footballers.

So Vision it is that can keep the best players. Does anybody have any idea what ours is beyond living within our means (which I continue to support by the way)? Do we, as a club, have a Vision of any sort at all?

RegGreen wrote:

Good job other players are scoring and were grinding out results cos if we had to rely on our strikers goodwillie for one we would be well & truely F#@Ked otherwise

Goodwillie has much more pressing matters...

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Even Spencer has only scored twice all season but has been playing quite well the last couple of games but me personally cant wait for garita to return it cant come quick enough

A footballer has a playing window say of 15 years give or take....and that's not taking into account career threatening injuries.....so they have to cash in during those earning years if the chance comes their way....you cannot blame them really.

We're not actually playing THAT well for 90 minutes. Forwards aren't scoring. Top by 5 and best GD in the league.

Scouts at this game

Former Argyle striker Kevin Gallen was among a large number of scouts at Broadhall Way to see the League Two leaders take on Stevenage.

Gallen attended the game as a representative of Championship club Brighton and Hove Albion.

The other clubs represented included Colchester United and several Premier League sides, such as Arsenal, Crystal Palace, Southampton, Stoke City and Sunderland. Also Scottish Premiership outfit Kilmarnock

Another good victory top of the league and cruising!.... bit like last season really,but if Adams gets another dose of Brent non ambition in the january window i think he will walk and so will Carey, Brent remains as always the biggest obstacle to promotion.

Sir Francis Drake wrote:

Tringreen wrote:

Sad Act looks at the bigger picture. As long as brent is the owner, any lower league success will be halted by the inevitable departure of best players and manager.

This is the problem that all lower league, "smaller" teams face. In fact all teams face them because Real Madrid, Barcelona, Bayern Munich and the obvious ones in this country will always come along and snaffle the best talent talent wherever they can find it.

Obviously there's degrees of separation to this and most recently Hourihaine left us to go to Barnsley more or less citing the old Sean McCarthy mantra of "bettering himself" (SMcC went to Bradford when he said that) and I struggle to this day to see how either of them are any better than we are.

It's a Vision Thing really. There are players who stayed with Swansea and Hull as they climbed through the divisions and ended up PL players earning a fortune they could never have dreamed of and it is a similar Vision that needs to be sold to our current crop of players and manager.

Emotionally repellent though it is you can't blame the players or managers that go (it's managers display the greatest treachery when they do up sticks and leave). Football is what it is and being a footballer or manager is a capricious career path to follow. I certainly can't blame any of them for taking the money when it is on offer because most of us would up and move to a new employer if our wages were doubled or trebled - and you only have to look at the number of Argyle fans who have left the area to follow their chosen careers to see that that doesn't only apply to footballers.

So Vision it is that can keep the best players. Does anybody have any idea what ours is beyond living within our means (which I continue to support by the way)? Do we, as a club, have a Vision of any sort at all?

Howsabout bfrent getting richer, receiving long term rent and his jamboys running the village show with a couple of nikkk type characters ?
Swansea had a new stadium, a determination to play attractive football and just enough boardroom wealth to back successive managers.

sufferedsince 68 wrote:

Brent remains as always the biggest obstacle to promotion.

Its moving forward ever even if we get promotion that's the problem. Currently he simply cant believe his good fortune that top of the league has deflected attention away from his purchase

sufferedsince 68 wrote:

Another good victory top of the league and cruising!.... bit like last season really,but if Adams gets another dose of Brent non ambition in the january window i think he will walk and so will Carey, Brent remains as always the biggest obstacle to promotion.

Last season he realise if we were promoted the purches price of Home Park would have increase because the rent would have rise automatically because of Argyle being in league one

Tringreen wrote:

Sir Francis Drake wrote:

Tringreen wrote:

Sad Act looks at the bigger picture. As long as brent is the owner, any lower league success will be halted by the inevitable departure of best players and manager.

This is the problem that all lower league, "smaller" teams face. In fact all teams face them because Real Madrid, Barcelona, Bayern Munich and the obvious ones in this country will always come along and snaffle the best talent talent wherever they can find it.

Obviously there's degrees of separation to this and most recently Hourihaine left us to go to Barnsley more or less citing the old Sean McCarthy mantra of "bettering himself" (SMcC went to Bradford when he said that) and I struggle to this day to see how either of them are any better than we are.

It's a Vision Thing really. There are players who stayed with Swansea and Hull as they climbed through the divisions and ended up PL players earning a fortune they could never have dreamed of and it is a similar Vision that needs to be sold to our current crop of players and manager.

Emotionally repellent though it is you can't blame the players or managers that go (it's managers display the greatest treachery when they do up sticks and leave). Football is what it is and being a footballer or manager is a capricious career path to follow. I certainly can't blame any of them for taking the money when it is on offer because most of us would up and move to a new employer if our wages were doubled or trebled - and you only have to look at the number of Argyle fans who have left the area to follow their chosen careers to see that that doesn't only apply to footballers.

So Vision it is that can keep the best players. Does anybody have any idea what ours is beyond living within our means (which I continue to support by the way)? Do we, as a club, have a Vision of any sort at all?

Howsabout bfrent getting richer, receiving long term rent and his jamboys running the village show with a couple of nikkk type characters ?
Swansea had a new stadium, a determination to play attractive football and just enough boardroom wealth to back successive managers.

Yet this 'successful club' takes on board a new manager and completely ignores their Fans Trust...who own 20% of the club....not even having the courtesy to tell them, let alone involve them in the process, who discover what's happening on a news bulletin.

zyph wrote:

Tringreen wrote:

Sir Francis Drake wrote:

Tringreen wrote:

Sad Act looks at the bigger picture. As long as brent is the owner, any lower league success will be halted by the inevitable departure of best players and manager.

This is the problem that all lower league, "smaller" teams face. In fact all teams face them because Real Madrid, Barcelona, Bayern Munich and the obvious ones in this country will always come along and snaffle the best talent talent wherever they can find it.

Obviously there's degrees of separation to this and most recently Hourihaine left us to go to Barnsley more or less citing the old Sean McCarthy mantra of "bettering himself" (SMcC went to Bradford when he said that) and I struggle to this day to see how either of them are any better than we are.

It's a Vision Thing really. There are players who stayed with Swansea and Hull as they climbed through the divisions and ended up PL players earning a fortune they could never have dreamed of and it is a similar Vision that needs to be sold to our current crop of players and manager.

Emotionally repellent though it is you can't blame the players or managers that go (it's managers display the greatest treachery when they do up sticks and leave). Football is what it is and being a footballer or manager is a capricious career path to follow. I certainly can't blame any of them for taking the money when it is on offer because most of us would up and move to a new employer if our wages were doubled or trebled - and you only have to look at the number of Argyle fans who have left the area to follow their chosen careers to see that that doesn't only apply to footballers.

So Vision it is that can keep the best players. Does anybody have any idea what ours is beyond living within our means (which I continue to support by the way)? Do we, as a club, have a Vision of any sort at all?

Howsabout bfrent getting richer, receiving long term rent and his jamboys running the village show with a couple of nikkk type characters ?
Swansea had a new stadium, a determination to play attractive football and just enough boardroom wealth to back successive managers.

Yet this 'successful club' takes on board a new manager and completely ignores their Fans Trust...who own 20% of the club....not even having the courtesy to tell them, let alone involve them in the process, who discover what's happening on a news bulletin.

Why the quotation marks? The apparent lack of etiquette shown by the new owners doesn't disguise the fact that Swansea have been successful over the past 10 years and overtook Argyle from a far inferior position-it could and should have been us who got into the top flight from the base that had been established,16000 gates [bigger than anything Swansea registered on the way up] and players who were good enough with an addition or two to get there. Tring is absolutely correct in his assessment and it's news to me that showing finishing school manners was ever a factor in gauging football success.

Tgwu wrote:

Scouts at this game

Former Argyle striker Kevin Gallen was among a large number of scouts at Broadhall Way to see the League Two leaders take on Stevenage.

Gallen attended the game as a representative of Championship club Brighton and Hove Albion.

The other clubs represented included Colchester United and several Premier League sides, such as Arsenal, Crystal Palace, Southampton, Stoke City and Sunderland. Also Scottish Premiership outfit Kilmarnock

Oh well off to them footballing giants kilmarnock it is then..  ..tbh i think carey could take his pick of clubs up to championship level all day long