Adams on Budget for next season

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Taken from the article today the 13th for which alarm bells should be ringing loudly

"Argyle have a number of players who will be out of contract after the end of the current campaign.

For the time being, though, offers of new deals are not being put on the table by the club."

harvetheslayer wrote:

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Taken from the article today the 13th for which alarm bells should be ringing loudly

"Argyle have a number of players who will be out of contract after the end of the current campaign.

For the time being, though, offers of new deals are not being put on the table by the club."

Contract negotiations should have been well under way by now. FFS.

Surely Adams and the board could be saying to the key players we are looking at £xyz in League 1 and doubling should we achieve the Championship on 1/2/3 year contracts or whatever.
Perhaps we are the first team ever to be in this position !

Throbbers response on farm thread

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He's a total fucktard. Anyone against Brent is 'finger counter' and 'rabid' whilst Throbber on the other hand holds himself up as a pragmatist and the voice of reasoned debate. He's nothing but a complete arselicker. Anything the club does or says he interprets it as the best thing to do, period.

What a prick jeez!!

harvetheslayer wrote:

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The Sussex sage as spoken, Shaddap and be grateful you Devon peasants, good players are not for the likes of little argo and their shit support.

Everyone wants to be a pragmatist these days. It's the new black. I find it so boring.
Do I detect a new trend ? In a turbulent world, dark clouds a gathering, is pragmatism the new Anderson shelter for the meek ?

Fifteen thousand tomorrow ten thousand plus every other home game, nothing meaningful happening off the pitch, if theres no money for a decent playing budget perhaps Jimmy and Silent Si, could tell the fans just where is the money going?

I think we know where the money is going in general, into shareholder value, or even expenses and profit. Of course we'll never know exactly as there are no meaningful public accounts.
Clearly, people are conducting their "negotiations" in public. First the club, through Adams issuing a statement, followed by Bradley issuing his own public proclamation saying it will go to the wire. And now a retort from Adams zzzzzzzzzz.
Basically, Adams might think he's building a club, but that isn't showing itself in it's dealings with it's employees. If Adams contents himself with saying that's how football is these days, then he needs to ask just what is he building here that's any different than elsewhere ?

The best players who are out of contract need to have offers now to mull over,otherwise come the end of the season we could be faced with departures and old James habit of not shelling out to keep players could backfire! Argyle’s good run hasn’t gone unnoticed and you can bet clubs higher up will be looking at derek,and if he decides to go you can bet certain players will go as well! Still you can’t expect Brent to act quickly on the playing side cos he has his property development to worry about! You can’t help but feel that the football is the last thing he is bothered about !!

Archie9 wrote:

You can’t help but feel that the football is the last thing he is bothered about !!

Couldnt care less as long as 10,000 turn up.

Might be interesting to actually know what budget Derek is requesting.

Graiser wrote:

Might be interesting to actually know what budget Derek is requesting.

If the words used in the Herald were reported accuarately it gave the impression Adams was setting his stall out strongly
Any resistance from Bent and he could be on his way

I would be absolutely amazed if there are not other club owners in L1 or the Championship who like the look of Adams, he has to be interested surely if an offer comes up. Not just for the salary and budget but for the training facilities, ground etc.
I would like to think that if Adams does go, he would tell Brent to go and do one, but probably unlikely.

akagreengull wrote:

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I would like to think that if Adams does go, he would tell Brent to go and do one, but probably unlikely.

Well PCC clearly did using a word rhyming with rancour over the Grandstand so hopefully Del Boy might as will

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So Derek is spouting on about "punching above our weight" with a limited budget and ten thousand plus crowds.
So where is the money going?

BRENT OUT

Graiser wrote:

Might be interesting to actually know what budget Derek is requesting.

He can 'request' all he wants. What he's given by Mr Brent is a totally different matter. Let's all hope that the board use this season as a catalyst for substantial improvement in funds available for team strengthening. Other wise, we'll be doing this all over again next season, maybe, possibly!

P.O.I wrote:

Graiser wrote:

Might be interesting to actually know what budget Derek is requesting.

He can 'request' all he wants. What he's given by Mr Brent is a totally different matter. Let's all hope that the board use this season as a catalyst for substantial improvement in funds available for team strengthening. Other wise, we'll be doing this all over again next season, maybe, possibly!

I'd imagine what Graiser what intimating was that Adams only asked for a small budget and that if he asked for a larger one Brent wouldn't hesitate to provide one. The squire can do no wrong.

Surprisingly even the Erald is saying today Derek should be given more budget to deal with injuries, thing is it's so bleedin obvious even the Brent friendly right wing rag is saying it.
Who is Andy Phillips anyway.
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I think Andy Phillips is a journo for the WMN now.

According to the Throbber Adams works even bigger miracles as unlike our rivals he has to pay for pre season and traveling in his budget, he really is a cock.

Stole this off Neilz on the farm makes interesting reading he's also got some other figures I'll post after this one.

I have put together a table of turnover and profit of all league one clubs of 2017/18 based on company accounts, i have left out Wigan, Blackburn and Rotherham as they were relegated from the championship and their accounts would completely different based on central league payments and other costs. The information is the best i could find online feel free to add anything you feel is not correct. The accounts are mostly made up of either june 2016 or june 2017

Charlton Athletic - Turnover £12,100,000 - Loss - 12,600,000 - got relegated from the championship 20215/16 so there turnover is much higher than it would be now
Peterborough - Turnover £7,100,000 - Profit- 367,000
Plymouth Argyle - Turnover £7,100,000 - Profit - 757,000 - Could also add on 25% increase in average attendance (estimated to increase to 8,000,000)
Portsmouth - Turnover £7,000,000 - Loss - 500,000 (7,900,000)
Fleetwood Town - Turnover £7,000,000 - Profit - 4,500,000
Walsall - Turnover £6,600,000 - Profit- 215,000
MK Dons - Turnover £6,500,000 - Profit 425,000 - Relegated
Southend United - Turnover £5,670,000 - Undeclared
Gillingham - Turnover £5,600,000 - profit - 188,000
Oxford United - Turnover £5,100,000 - Loss - 1,800,000
Bradford City - Turnover £5,000,000 - Undeclared
Doncaster Rovers - Turnover £4,900,000 - Undeclared (5,800,000)
AFC Wimbledon - Turnover £4,800,000 - Profit 50,000
Shrewsbury Town - Turnover £4,710,000 - Profit 410,000
Bristol Rovers - Turnover £4,700,000 - Loss - 3,000,000
Blackpool - Turnover £4,400,000 - Undeclared (5,300,000)
Bury - Turnover £4,200,000 - Loss - 2,500,000 - Relegated
Scunthorpe - Turnover £3,700,000 - Loss - 3,000,000
Rochdale - No information found
Oldham - theyre accounts are overdue no information - Relegated
Northampton Town - Loaned 10 Million by council and its gone missing - no accounts available - Relegated

This worth taking into account - Porstmouth, Doncaster and Blackpool will have an extra (900,000) turnover along with ourselves from the central league payment difference in league one/two.

Clear to see from this how well Shrewsbury have done this season, also scunthorpe. No suprises at the top with Peterborough, Portsmouth and Charlton leading the way. One big suprise might be that argyle have one of the highest turnovers and profit in the whole league.

"we have one of the emptier stadiums in the division" where did you get this information or did you read it somewhere else and repeat it on here, always worth doing research before saying something like that

shrewsbury 63%
scunthorpe 49%
charlton 44%
porstmouth 84%
peterborough 39%
southend united 58%
bradford city 78%
blackpool 24%
bristol rovers 72%
fleetwood town 58%
doncaster rovers 53%
oxford united 59%
gillingham 45%
afc wimbledon 89%
walsall 42%
rochdale 34%
oldham 32%
northampton 74%
mk dons 30%
bury 33%

Argyle - 63%

So we have the 6th best ground utilisation in the division?

There was this on average player wages as well,

"I was surprised to read that the average wage at Argyle is only £1369 per week which ranks us 19th in league one not 16th as some have reported."

In the interest of balance Postey said this,

"It looks like the Herald has copied a report from a football fans website regarding wages, although there's no information as to how they arrived at their figures for player wages."


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For the 20 Premier League clubs, we took average weekly salary figures from the 2017 Global Sports Salary Survey. For the 72 EFL clubs, we looked at weekly wage data from the 2018 edition of Football Manager, taking an average of each team’s first team squad’s weekly earnings. The data from the game has been applauded on numerous occasions for its accuracy, and is even a recognised scouting system for clubs, as a result of their 1,300 researchers across the globe.

To find the average weekly earnings of the fans, we looked at the median weekly pay figures for the local authority of each team from the latest ‘Annual Salary of Hours and Earnings’ from the Office for National Statistics. (For London teams, we looked at the average earnings for their local borough.)

We then divided the teams’ average earnings with the fans to find out how much more they earned.