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PostSubject: Brent Vs Hallett   Brent Vs Hallett EmptySat Sep 23, 2017 8:36 pm

So what's the beef?

There are rumours are they they have fallen out. Is it because of JB scuppering the mankover by tagging his crap shack onto the grandstand? Or is it because Hallett is expecting the loan repayments to start before building work commences?

Or is it something else?




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PostSubject: Re: Brent Vs Hallett   Brent Vs Hallett EmptySat Sep 23, 2017 8:45 pm

Frank Bullitt wrote:
So what's the beef?

There are rumours are they they have fallen out. Is it because of JB scuppering the mankover by tagging his crap shack onto the grandstand? Or is it because Hallett is expecting the loan repayments to start before building work commences?

Or is it something else?




Anonymous tip offs via the usual channels will be acceptable.
Hallet, who was over all things Argyle like a rash has now disappeared, he cant be happy with either the Dogshit squad or the Dogshit developments or a combination of both.
Hopefully he can withdraw his loan and pull the plug on Brents anti Argyle Crapshack plan.
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PostSubject: Re: Brent Vs Hallett   Brent Vs Hallett EmptySat Sep 23, 2017 8:46 pm

Frank Bullitt wrote:
So what's the beef?

There are rumours are they they have fallen out. Is it because of JB scuppering the mankover by tagging his crap shack onto the grandstand? Or is it because Hallett is expecting the loan repayments to start before building work commences?

Or is it something else?




Anonymous tip offs via the usual channels will be acceptable.

does hallet have the money to buy out brent?
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PostSubject: Re: Brent Vs Hallett   Brent Vs Hallett EmptySat Sep 23, 2017 9:19 pm

Having had Breakfast with Simon Hallett three weeks ago, I would say nothing is further from the truth.

I realize a lot can happen in three weeks but I somehow doubt there is any credence in these rumours.

Wishful thinking is more like it!
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PostSubject: Re: Brent Vs Hallett   Brent Vs Hallett EmptySat Sep 23, 2017 9:34 pm

Lots of rumours of a fallout and also seperate rumours that other more established board members are pissed with Brent. Just look on the pitch, forgetting issues of quality of players the discontent in the club is evident and I'm sure it goes from top to bottom.
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PostSubject: Re: Brent Vs Hallett   Brent Vs Hallett EmptySat Sep 23, 2017 9:37 pm

As someone once said...the natives are revolting.
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PostSubject: Re: Brent Vs Hallett   Brent Vs Hallett EmptySat Sep 23, 2017 9:53 pm

Rickler wrote:
Having had Breakfast with Simon Hallett three weeks ago, I would say nothing is further from the truth.

I realize a lot can happen in three weeks but I somehow doubt there is any credence in these rumours.

Wishful thinking is more like it!

I tend to concur with the above. Wishful thinking.
And what if some board members have fallen out with Brent, like Jones. Big deal, he never put much money in, if any. Just a cover story.. And so what if these inconsequential characters disagree ? they have no power in the boardroom.
There's two people running this show, and they're Brent and Hallett. I see them as peas from the same pod wanting the same outcome. Unlike Rickler, who is likely to have been schmoozed, I think it's a right old mess, but the two main players will just carry on regardless.
I don't think I can bear another breakfast at Tiffanys routine after the last set up, but it's football, so it's bound to be crass.
I hope we don't see an advocate for Hallett on this forum in the same way Newell advocates for Brent.
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PostSubject: Re: Brent Vs Hallett   Brent Vs Hallett EmptySat Sep 23, 2017 10:02 pm

Maybe a realisation that the team is crap!
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PostSubject: Re: Brent Vs Hallett   Brent Vs Hallett EmptySat Sep 23, 2017 10:09 pm

Rickler wrote:
Having had Breakfast with Simon Hallett three weeks ago, I would say nothing is further from the truth.

I realize a lot can happen in three weeks but I somehow doubt there is any credence in these rumours.

Wishful thinking is more like it!

Were the corn flakes ok?
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PostSubject: Re: Brent Vs Hallett   Brent Vs Hallett EmptySat Sep 23, 2017 10:30 pm

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Rickler wrote:
Having had Breakfast with Simon Hallett three weeks ago, I would say nothing is further from the truth.

I realize a lot can happen in three weeks but I somehow doubt there is any credence in these rumours.

Wishful thinking is more like it!

I tend to concur with the above. Wishful thinking.
And what if some board members have fallen out with Brent, like Jones. Big deal, he never put much money in, if any. Just a cover story.. And so what if these inconsequential characters disagree ? they have no power in the boardroom.
There's two people running this show, and they're Brent and Hallett. I see them as peas from the same pod wanting the same outcome. Unlike Rickler, who is likely to have been schmoozed, I think it's a right old mess, but the two main players will just carry on regardless.
I don't think I can bear another breakfast at Tiffanys routine after the last set up, but it's football, so it's bound to be crass.
I hope we don't see an advocate for Hallett on this forum in the same way Newell advocates for Brent.

And why would that be? Because Hallet must be a baddie in every respect just because he clearly has money, and is involved in the 'money' game, and is doing business with Brent? As for being schmoozed... Most people are subject to that because the schmoozer wants something from them - what on earth would SH want from me?

And I certainly won't be "advocating" for anybody if I don't think they are doing the right thing. Conversely, if they do, I will.
But unlike you, who is just going to snipe away until you're dead, I make an effort to actually try and find out what's going on - whether that be calling Brent out at a Fans forum with GT questions, or calling Hallett up to ask him why he doesn't post on this forum.

To the issue at hand... I certainly don't share the same enthusiasm for Brents way of doing things as Hallett does. I have no doubt SH understood that. Much in the same way I was left in no doubt that Hallett was very much a believer in what Brent was doing. Which is why... I very much doubt that there is anything 'big' going down between them. Which is answering the question being asked.

But like I said... Three weeks is a long time. But I'm guessing, nowhere near long enough
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PostSubject: Re: Brent Vs Hallett   Brent Vs Hallett EmptySat Sep 23, 2017 10:34 pm

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Rickler wrote:
Having had Breakfast with Simon Hallett three weeks ago, I would say nothing is further from the truth.

I realize a lot can happen in three weeks but I somehow doubt there is any credence in these rumours.

Wishful thinking is more like it!

Were the corn flakes ok?

Bangers and eggs for me!
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PostSubject: Re: Brent Vs Hallett   Brent Vs Hallett EmptySat Sep 23, 2017 10:48 pm

You really don't get it do you, rickler. I suspect your ego won't allow it. Advocate away, if it makes you feel better.
One of the oldest tricks in the book at any social level of opposition is to meet face to face.... hey, it's a noolism. It takes energy out of the opponent, not in muscle, but just plain old politeness. Society's rules are quite strict and hard to break......Plato, or was it Cicero, maybe Beezy 2020
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PostSubject: Re: Brent Vs Hallett   Brent Vs Hallett EmptySat Sep 23, 2017 10:54 pm

So in summary bees thinks silent Si has smoozed Rickler into believing that he's a fan of Brent and you don't think that he is? What do you base that assumption on?
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PostSubject: Re: Brent Vs Hallett   Brent Vs Hallett EmptySat Sep 23, 2017 11:34 pm

You lot really have fallen for the possibility that Si is somehow not quite such a predator as Brent.
Good cop, bad cop, peas in a pod.
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PostSubject: Re: Brent Vs Hallett   Brent Vs Hallett EmptySat Sep 23, 2017 11:46 pm

beesrus wrote:
You lot really have fallen for the possibility that Si is somehow not quite such a predator as Brent.
Good cop, bad cop, peas in a pod.

Oh contraire where did I say that? From what you ate saying you don't think Si is a fan of Brent? I think he is, Rickler is sure he is. As for Hallets motives we will wait and see, as for me, and you I guess I wouldn't be at all surprised if he's a shark in wolfs clothing.
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PostSubject: Re: Brent Vs Hallett   Brent Vs Hallett EmptySat Sep 23, 2017 11:48 pm

I just wish things could turn out all tickety-boo at Argyle and everything was a bed of roses. Sadly, while Brent is in charge, I can't see it ever happening.

The fiasco that is the Grandstand could still be the eyesore that it is now in two or three years time. The side could have slipped back into League Two or worse, The National League. Crowds would probably remain as they are now, but that is questionable.

I do not think Argyle will be anywhere near the Championship for at least a decade and more. By then I will be a pensioner and not care so much like now. Probably get into the ground cheaper as a pensioner !.

I still have a feeling that super fan Hallett will become Chairman one day, after a very messy divorce from Brent that is. I can't put a time scale on such proceedings though. At a guess it would have to be pretty soon, like a year and a half say.

When I look at the club as it is now, it brings tears to my eyes.


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PostSubject: Re: Brent Vs Hallett   Brent Vs Hallett EmptySat Sep 23, 2017 11:51 pm

beesrus wrote:
You lot really have fallen for the possibility that Si is somehow not quite such a predator as Brent.
Good cop, bad cop, peas in a pod.

I haven't fallen for anything. It's your stupid dogma that doesn't allow you to think in any way other than your blinkered socialist mantra.
You have the social political naivety of a twelve year old.
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PostSubject: Re: Brent Vs Hallett   Brent Vs Hallett EmptySat Sep 23, 2017 11:59 pm

Check rumours on pasoti. I floated this idea a few weeks ago and the piggy moved thread and then pm me saying I was out to cause trouble by asking questions!!!
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PostSubject: Re: Brent Vs Hallett   Brent Vs Hallett EmptySun Sep 24, 2017 12:03 am

What are you talking about earwig ? of course I think Hallett is a fan of Brent, hence peas in a pod.
What I take issue with is that some are attempting to give Hallett the benefit of doubt, and a graiseresque "wait and see " policy.
He should be opposed as much as Brent for his intention to finance much of this hybrid disaster, that the club, city and park will regret, if successful.
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PostSubject: Re: Brent Vs Hallett   Brent Vs Hallett EmptySun Sep 24, 2017 12:05 am

VillageGreen wrote:

I still have a feeling that super fan Hallett will become Chairman one day, after a very messy divorce from Brent that is. I can't put a time scale on such proceedings though. At a guess it would have to be pretty soon, like a year and a half say.


More wishful thinking... Perhaps I can help squash that rumour as well.


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I'm guessing the best we can hope for is the Hallets in full control of PAFC and Green Jim spending the rest of his days on a sun lounger somewhere in the vicinity of Exeter once his shabby little park ruse comes to fruition. Am I on the right track Ricks Cool


I wish you were!

I asked him directly:  "The million dollar question, any plans for you to eventually take over from Brent - a lot of fans wishing for that"?

His reply was emphatic.  He's never wanted to do it and had never thought about it, but admitted recently the thought had now crossed his mind.  He could never say never, but he really didn't have any plans or desire to.  He believes whatever happens with the club, that Brent wants to be in charge until at least 2020 to bring the Mayflower celebrations to HP.

Not advocating. Just reporting...

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PostSubject: Re: Brent Vs Hallett   Brent Vs Hallett EmptySun Sep 24, 2017 12:07 am

Rickler, your socialist bashing is par for your course. You and Newell and his entourage have a lot in political common. Such matters that are going on at the football club are bound to have parallels in other areas of human behaviour. I suspect you quite like the idea of an office block in the park.
In this matter, I come from a communal green environmental persuasion, not socialist, that tends to solely focus on who owns an asset, rather than what assets should be built in the first place. Quite different.


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PostSubject: Re: Brent Vs Hallett   Brent Vs Hallett EmptySun Sep 24, 2017 12:11 am

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What are you talking about earwig ? of course I think Hallett is a fan of Brent, hence peas in a pod.
What I take issue with is that some are attempting to give Hallett the benefit of doubt, and a graiseresque "wait and see " policy.
He should be opposed as much as Brent for his intention to finance much of this hybrid disaster, that the club, city and park will regret, if successful.

But Hallets only involved in the Grandstand refurb as far as we know and as You and I to my knowledge both support the refurb opposed to the new £10m free Ministand option. So what grounds do we have to object to Hallet at present? Graiseresque? Have a word son, your argument has more to do with trying to make yourself look somewhat superior as in we don't get it, we do, or at least I do but as GC says, let's look at the facts, Hallet has put in a loan for the refurb, he has a 49% share of the club and may or may not get on with Brent although Ricks who's met him says he's a Brent fan.
You tell me where the protest is and what it's about and maybe I'll join in.
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PostSubject: Re: Brent Vs Hallett   Brent Vs Hallett EmptySun Sep 24, 2017 12:19 am

beesrus wrote:
Rickler, your socialist bashing is par for your course. You and Newell and his entourage have a lot in political common. Such matters that are going on at the football club are bound to have parallels in other areas of human behaviour. I suspect you quite like the idea of an office block in the park.
In this matter, I come from a communal green environmental persuasion, not socialist, that tends to solely focus on who owns an asset, rather than what assets should be built in the first place. Quite different.

I'm not bashing socialism. I'm bashing you and your version of it.

and wrong again... I don't want office blocks in the park.

..and you have more in common than anybody with Newell. You are both blinkered bigots.

But, you I like.

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PostSubject: Re: Brent Vs Hallett   Brent Vs Hallett EmptySun Sep 24, 2017 12:21 am

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What are you talking about earwig ? of course I think Hallett is a fan of Brent, hence peas in a pod.
What I take issue with is that some are attempting to give Hallett the benefit of doubt, and a graiseresque "wait and see " policy.
He should be opposed as much as Brent for his intention to finance much of this hybrid disaster, that the club, city and park will regret, if successful.

But Hallets only involved in the Grandstand refurb as far as we know and as You and I to my knowledge both support the refurb opposed to the new £10m free Ministand option. So what grounds do we have to object to Hallet at present? Graiseresque? Have a word son, your argument has more to do with trying to make yourself look somewhat superior as in we don't get it, we do, or at least I do but as  GC says, let's look at the facts, Hallet has put in a loan for the refurb, he has a 49% share of the club and may or may not get on with Brent although Ricks who's met him says he's a Brent fan.
You tell me where the protest is and what it's about and maybe I'll join in.

Well said.
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PostSubject: Re: Brent Vs Hallett   Brent Vs Hallett EmptySun Sep 24, 2017 12:24 am

Earwig, I no longer support the grandstand and Mayflower refurb as it stands and see it as just part of the whole HHP gig. The projected extra income from the £4 to 5m mortgage just doesn't ring true. That amount of money could be spent a whole lot better. and just appears to me to be a ruse to dump some money in a safe hole, regardless of whether the mortgagees get value for money. I don't trust people lending to themselves. I cycled around there this morning again. Blimey, that rust is getting bad, just how is that going to be sorted.

And as I've said on another thread, I don't agree with Graham Clark's vision for the park. He's quite happy with the hotel for example, I'm not. It's the thin end of a business park in the future.
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