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PostSubject: Curtis Nelson going to tribunal   Curtis Nelson going to  tribunal EmptyWed Aug 24, 2016 7:47 pm

Curtis Nelson tribunal: Date to be set for Plymouth Argyle and Oxford United

The former Pilgrims skipper turned down a contract offer from Derek Adams in the close season and subsequently moved up to League One with new boys Oxford.

PLYMOUTH Argyle and Oxford United remain at loggerheads over the fee to be paid for Curtis Nelson's services, following his transfer this summer.

The former Pilgrims skipper turned down a contract offer from Derek Adams in the close season and subsequently moved up to League One with new boys Oxford.

However, under EFL rules, Michael Appleton's side must pay the Devon club a fee for the finances they poured into Nelson's development as a footballer because he is still under 24.

Although negotiations began between the clubs once the 23-year-old made his move, there has been no agreement on what Nelson's development was worth and therefore a tribunal must be arranged.

Argyle have confirmed they are still waiting for the EFL to arrange a date for the meeting, which will set a fee to be paid and clauses to be agreed by the clubs and will not be negotiable.

Nelson made a total of 246 appearances for Argyle after making his debut for them at the age of 16 in August 2010.

Some of the deciding factors at the tribunal will include how long Nelson has been at Argyle, how many appearances he made for the club, what wages he was earning and what he was offered as part of a new contract with them.

From Brent paper


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PostSubject: Re: Curtis Nelson going to tribunal   Curtis Nelson going to  tribunal EmptyWed Aug 24, 2016 8:00 pm

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Curtis Nelson tribunal: Date to be set for Plymouth Argyle and Oxford United


PLYMOUTH Argyle and Oxford United remain at loggerheads over the fee to be paid for Curtis Nelson's services, following his transfer this summer.

The former Pilgrims skipper turned down a contract offer from Derek Adams in the close season and subsequently moved up to League One with new boys Oxford.

PLYMOUTH Argyle and Oxford United remain at loggerheads over the fee to be paid for Curtis Nelson's services, following his transfer this summer.

The former Pilgrims skipper turned down a contract offer from Derek Adams in the close season and subsequently moved up to League One with new boys Oxford.

However, under EFL rules, Michael Appleton's side must pay the Devon club a fee for the finances they poured into Nelson's development as a footballer because he is still under 24.

Although negotiations began between the clubs once the 23-year-old made his move, there has been no agreement on what Nelson's development was worth and therefore a tribunal must be arranged.

Argyle have confirmed they are still waiting for the EFL to arrange a date for the meeting, which will set a fee to be paid and clauses to be agreed by the clubs and will not be negotiable.

Nelson made a total of 246 appearances for Argyle after making his debut for them at the age of 16 in August 2010.

Some of the deciding factors at the tribunal will include how long Nelson has been at Argyle, how many appearances he made for the club, what wages he was earning and what he was offered as part of a new contract with them.

From Brent paper


And there's the fly in the ointment, it was looking good until then!
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PostSubject: Re: Curtis Nelson going to tribunal   Curtis Nelson going to  tribunal EmptyWed Aug 24, 2016 8:04 pm

Big gamble for Argyle as they may now end up with less than they wanted.

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PostSubject: Re: Curtis Nelson going to tribunal   Curtis Nelson going to  tribunal EmptyWed Aug 24, 2016 8:05 pm

£50 and a box of Maltesers probably
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PostSubject: Re: Curtis Nelson going to tribunal   Curtis Nelson going to  tribunal EmptyWed Aug 24, 2016 8:09 pm

I think Argyle will recieve more from the tribunal
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PostSubject: Re: Curtis Nelson going to tribunal   Curtis Nelson going to  tribunal EmptyWed Aug 24, 2016 8:12 pm

Tgwu wrote:
I think Argyle will recieve more from the tribunal


If it's based on contract offered alanno will be about right.
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PostSubject: Re: Curtis Nelson going to tribunal   Curtis Nelson going to  tribunal EmptyWed Aug 24, 2016 8:16 pm

minus the £50
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PostSubject: Re: Curtis Nelson going to tribunal   Curtis Nelson going to  tribunal EmptyWed Aug 24, 2016 8:24 pm

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alannotivvy wrote:
£50 and a box of Maltesers probably
there holding out for 2 pastys as well.. lol!
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PostSubject: Re: Curtis Nelson going to tribunal   Curtis Nelson going to  tribunal EmptyThu Aug 25, 2016 1:58 am

If the last contract offered was less than previous which seems quite possible it would be hard to see more than £25,000 I'd imagine
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PostSubject: Re: Curtis Nelson going to tribunal   Curtis Nelson going to  tribunal EmptyMon Oct 31, 2016 9:56 pm

AN INDEPENDENT panel is due to sit in London next week to set the fee that Plymouth Argyle will receive for their former captain Curtis Nelson.

(From local rag)

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PostSubject: Re: Curtis Nelson going to tribunal   Curtis Nelson going to  tribunal EmptyTue Nov 01, 2016 4:26 pm

MANAGER Derek Adams is not sure whether he will be given any of the money that Plymouth Argyle receive as a fee for former captain Curtis Nelson to spend on squad strengthening.

What do ATD think? answer on a postage stamp
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PostSubject: Re: Curtis Nelson going to tribunal   Curtis Nelson going to  tribunal EmptyTue Nov 01, 2016 4:58 pm

Over on the Farm they have decided to have a poll on the topic

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10% of the posters that voted think we're going to get over 400k for him. drunken
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PostSubject: Re: Curtis Nelson going to tribunal   Curtis Nelson going to  tribunal EmptyTue Nov 01, 2016 5:27 pm

I think Nelson is a fine player and in a fair world would fetch a sizeable fee but in these circumstances £400,000 is wildly over ambitious.

So even if he is worth £400,000 we'll be extremely fortunate to get £100,000 for him.

And why on Earth has this taken so long to happen? (Not that it has yet.)
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PostSubject: Re: Curtis Nelson going to tribunal   Curtis Nelson going to  tribunal EmptyTue Nov 01, 2016 7:04 pm

Hugh Watt wrote:
Over on the Farm they have decided to have a poll on the topic

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10% of the posters that voted think we're going to get over 400k for him.  drunken

While we're on the subject of deluded saddo's, one of the aforementioned has seen fit to shell out 3 figures for a photo of Graham Carey. Embarassed Embarassed cheers

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PostSubject: Re: Curtis Nelson going to tribunal   Curtis Nelson going to  tribunal EmptyTue Nov 01, 2016 7:38 pm

Have we got any clauses on Jack Stephens?

Wouldn't take much to eclipse what we'll receive for Curtis.
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PostSubject: Re: Curtis Nelson going to tribunal   Curtis Nelson going to  tribunal EmptyTue Nov 01, 2016 8:50 pm

Pretty sure whatever the fee is there will be no reasoning when compared to others.

I get the feeling the Club will have any lower wage offered covered by the need to extend the squad from 14 to 16 or whatever the numbers are because of the new loan rules.

£125k
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alannotivvy wrote:
£50 and a box of Maltesers probably
You're on cloud cuckoo land! A 'box' of maltesers! You're having a larf. A packet maybe but defo not a box.
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PostSubject: Re: Curtis Nelson going to tribunal   Curtis Nelson going to  tribunal EmptyTue Nov 01, 2016 9:04 pm

I suppose they could momentarily mistake us for Pompey and award us £1.5m
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£250k

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PostSubject: Re: Curtis Nelson going to tribunal   Curtis Nelson going to  tribunal EmptyTue Nov 01, 2016 10:21 pm

It shouldn't have a bearing on the fee, but it'd be difficult for the panel not to notice that he's only started 4 games for a team 17th in League 1.

The next John Terry, he ain't.

Anything north of 100k will be worthy of an eyebrow raise.
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PostSubject: Re: Curtis Nelson going to tribunal   Curtis Nelson going to  tribunal EmptyWed Nov 02, 2016 11:10 am

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It shouldn't have a bearing on the fee, but it'd be difficult for the panel not to notice that he's only started 4 games for a team 17th in League 1.  

The next John Terry, he ain't.

Anything north of 100k will be worthy of an eyebrow raise.

Hasn't Nelson been injured since pre-season?

His appearance record over the last few seasons does not indicate that he is injury prone so if he has been crocked and has then come back into the team almost immediately when fit then it boosts the case for how good he is rather than weakening it.
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PostSubject: Re: Curtis Nelson going to tribunal   Curtis Nelson going to  tribunal EmptyWed Nov 02, 2016 11:53 am

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Czarcasm wrote:
It shouldn't have a bearing on the fee, but it'd be difficult for the panel not to notice that he's only started 4 games for a team 17th in League 1.  

The next John Terry, he ain't.

Anything north of 100k will be worthy of an eyebrow raise.

Hasn't Nelson been injured since pre-season?

His appearance record over the last few seasons does not indicate that he is injury prone so if he has been crocked and has then come back into the team almost immediately when fit then it boosts the case for how good he is rather than weakening it.

He was only out for 4 weeks and played in the 2-1 home defeat to Millwall
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PostSubject: Re: Curtis Nelson going to tribunal   Curtis Nelson going to  tribunal EmptyWed Nov 02, 2016 1:26 pm

Be lucky to get between 50 to 75k top whack
Will it get reinvested..think we all know the answer to that one
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