Subject: Re: Brexit - Leave or Remain poll Wed Jun 22, 2016 10:28 pm
Do "youngsters" know nothing and/or must they listen to the "oldie" experts who know best?
Hugh Midde
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Subject: Re: Brexit - Leave or Remain poll Wed Jun 22, 2016 10:37 pm
Moist_Von_Lipwig wrote:
What I find a bit ironic is that all the "oldies" are voting out and all the "youngsters" (who it will really affect - let's get it right, it's the next generation who will have to pick up the pieces should it all go wrong - the "oldies" will be dead or hoping that some immigrant will be looking after them!
It's the Oldies that flew the Lancasters and Spitfires that maintained our freedom.
Moist_Von_Lipwig
Posts : 1573 Join date : 2011-10-07 Age : 111
Subject: Re: Brexit - Leave or Remain poll Wed Jun 22, 2016 10:40 pm
Hugh Midde wrote:
Moist_Von_Lipwig wrote:
What I find a bit ironic is that all the "oldies" are voting out and all the "youngsters" (who it will really affect - let's get it right, it's the next generation who will have to pick up the pieces should it all go wrong - the "oldies" will be dead or hoping that some immigrant will be looking after them!
It's the Oldies that flew the Lancasters and Spitfires that maintained our freedom.
I don't think that YOU are that old.......
The EU is not another nazi Germany!
Edited to add... The Hurricane pilots did more if you are really interested in FACTS!!
Last edited by Moist_Von_Lipwig on Wed Jun 22, 2016 10:43 pm; edited 1 time in total
Rickler
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Subject: Re: Brexit - Leave or Remain poll Wed Jun 22, 2016 10:42 pm
I am surprised the young are so fearful. I feel sorry for them to be honest. A future nation of saps.
Moist_Von_Lipwig
Posts : 1573 Join date : 2011-10-07 Age : 111
Subject: Re: Brexit - Leave or Remain poll Wed Jun 22, 2016 10:44 pm
Rickler wrote:
I am surprised the young are so fearful. I feel sorry for them to be honest. A future nation of saps.
No.... a future generation of friendship and hope.......
Les Miserable
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Subject: Re: Brexit - Leave or Remain poll Wed Jun 22, 2016 10:47 pm
I don't think the young should be allowed to vote until they've experienced life in the real World, and why the fcuk are the Irish living in the UK allowed to vote? Cnuting carve up imo.
Greenskin
Posts : 6242 Join date : 2011-05-16 Age : 64 Location : Tavistock area
Subject: Re: Brexit - Leave or Remain poll Wed Jun 22, 2016 10:48 pm
Moist_Von_Lipwig wrote:
Do "youngsters" know nothing and/or must they listen to the "oldie" experts who know best?
We had this debate awhile back when your mate told Pepsi Pete to "shut the feck up" because he dared to voice an opinion that was contrary to his own and because Pete happened to be above pensionable age. Interesting proposal to disenfranchise a section of the population because they are of a certain age,really not much different from barring them because of the colour of their skin or religion-could ironically [in view of some of the implications levelled at some Brexiteers in the past few days] end up in something like the Nuremberg laws,very dangerous if you ask me. Anyway,you go and ponder further on your ideas and have a couple of glasses of Liebfraumilch,it may steady your trembling nerve in anticipation of tomorrows vote.
Sir Francis Drake
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Subject: Re: Brexit - Leave or Remain poll Wed Jun 22, 2016 10:49 pm
Moist_Von_Lipwig wrote:
What I find a bit ironic is that all the "oldies" are voting out and all the "youngsters" (who it will really affect - let's get it right, it's the next generation who will have to pick up the pieces should it all go wrong - the "oldies" will be dead or hoping that some immigrant will be looking after them!) are voting in.
Did you see how Boris and his supporters treated the 17 year old today?
Maybe, nobody over 50 or 60 should be allowed to vote!!!
Bloody hell, Moist!. Brave. Very brave.
I hope you have full body armour close to hand.
Lord Melbury
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Subject: Re: Brexit - Leave or Remain poll Wed Jun 22, 2016 10:54 pm
Subject: Re: Brexit - Leave or Remain poll Wed Jun 22, 2016 10:56 pm
Greenskin wrote:
Moist_Von_Lipwig wrote:
Do "youngsters" know nothing and/or must they listen to the "oldie" experts who know best?
We had this debate awhile back when your mate told Pepsi Pete to "shut the feck up" because he dared to voice an opinion that was contrary to his own and because Pete happened to be above pensionable age. Interesting proposal to disenfranchise a section of the population because they are of a certain age,really not much different from barring them because of the colour of their skin or religion-could ironically [in view of some of the implications levelled at some Brexiteers in the past few days] end up in something like the Nuremberg laws,very dangerous if you ask me. Anyway,you go and ponder further on your ideas and have a couple of glasses of Liebfraumilch,it may steady your trembling nerve in anticipation of tomorrows vote.
Not really. Who does this vote really affect? All the oldies (short term) or the youngsters (long term).
I say let them decide.....
Interesting proposal to disenfranchise a section of the population because they are of a certain age,really not much different from barring them because of the colour of their skin or religion-could ironically [in view of some of the implications levelled at some Brexiteers in the past few days] end up in something like the Nuremberg laws,very dangerous if you ask me.
Care to explain more?
Anyway,you go and ponder further on your ideas and have a couple of glasses of Liebfraumilch,it may steady your trembling nerve in anticipation of tomorrows vote.
Any need for that?
Moist_Von_Lipwig
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Subject: Re: Brexit - Leave or Remain poll Wed Jun 22, 2016 10:57 pm
Watch Channel 4 now.. very funny!
Rickler
Posts : 6529 Join date : 2011-05-10 Location : Inside the mind...
Subject: Re: Brexit - Leave or Remain poll Wed Jun 22, 2016 10:59 pm
Moist_Von_Lipwig wrote:
Rickler wrote:
I am surprised the young are so fearful. I feel sorry for them to be honest. A future nation of saps.
No.... a future generation of friendship and hope.......
Like American hippies then?
Moist_Von_Lipwig
Posts : 1573 Join date : 2011-10-07 Age : 111
Subject: Re: Brexit - Leave or Remain poll Wed Jun 22, 2016 11:01 pm
Rickler wrote:
Moist_Von_Lipwig wrote:
Rickler wrote:
I am surprised the young are so fearful. I feel sorry for them to be honest. A future nation of saps.
No.... a future generation of friendship and hope.......
Like American hippies then?
If you like. Not all "Johnny Foreigners" are bad!
Hugh Midde
Posts : 1010 Join date : 2015-11-02 Location : The Happy Isles where nobody grows old
Subject: Re: Brexit - Leave or Remain poll Wed Jun 22, 2016 11:01 pm
Moist_Von_Lipwig wrote:
Hugh Midde wrote:
Moist_Von_Lipwig wrote:
What I find a bit ironic is that all the "oldies" are voting out and all the "youngsters" (who it will really affect - let's get it right, it's the next generation who will have to pick up the pieces should it all go wrong - the "oldies" will be dead or hoping that some immigrant will be looking after them!
It's the Oldies that flew the Lancasters and Spitfires that maintained our freedom.
I don't think that YOU are that old.......
The EU is not another nazi Germany!
Edited to add... The Hurricane pilots did more if you are really interested in FACTS!!
Good grief! You are stupendously thick. Yes, Hurricane squadrons outnumbered Spitfire squadrons during the Battle of Britain. However, the Hurricane was withdraw soon after and modified to fly off modified merchant ships like HMS Vindix to protect convoys. The Spitfire went from the Mark 1 right up to the mark 23 and was still flying at the wars end. As for Hawker, after the Hurricane was withdrawn from frontline service they went on to produce the Typhoon, Tempest and the Fury.
Rickler
Posts : 6529 Join date : 2011-05-10 Location : Inside the mind...
Subject: Re: Brexit - Leave or Remain poll Wed Jun 22, 2016 11:02 pm
Moist_Von_Lipwig wrote:
Rickler wrote:
Moist_Von_Lipwig wrote:
Rickler wrote:
I am surprised the young are so fearful. I feel sorry for them to be honest. A future nation of saps.
No.... a future generation of friendship and hope.......
Like American hippies then?
If you like. Not all "Johnny Foreigners" are bad!
Yep, It's hard for Americans to understand that. Not many foreigners ever came to the country.
Greenskin
Posts : 6242 Join date : 2011-05-16 Age : 64 Location : Tavistock area
Subject: Re: Brexit - Leave or Remain poll Wed Jun 22, 2016 11:08 pm
Moist_Von_Lipwig wrote:
Greenskin wrote:
Moist_Von_Lipwig wrote:
Do "youngsters" know nothing and/or must they listen to the "oldie" experts who know best?
We had this debate awhile back when your mate told Pepsi Pete to "shut the feck up" because he dared to voice an opinion that was contrary to his own and because Pete happened to be above pensionable age. Interesting proposal to disenfranchise a section of the population because they are of a certain age,really not much different from barring them because of the colour of their skin or religion-could ironically [in view of some of the implications levelled at some Brexiteers in the past few days] end up in something like the Nuremberg laws,very dangerous if you ask me. Anyway,you go and ponder further on your ideas and have a couple of glasses of Liebfraumilch,it may steady your trembling nerve in anticipation of tomorrows vote.
Not really. Who does this vote really affect? All the oldies (short term) or the youngsters (long term).
I say let them decide.....
Interesting proposal to disenfranchise a section of the population because they are of a certain age,really not much different from barring them because of the colour of their skin or religion-could ironically [in view of some of the implications levelled at some Brexiteers in the past few days] end up in something like the Nuremberg laws,very dangerous if you ask me.
Care to explain more?
Anyway,you go and ponder further on your ideas and have a couple of glasses of Liebfraumilch,it may steady your trembling nerve in anticipation of tomorrows vote.
Any need for that?
No.Work it out yourself.
Guest Guest
Subject: Re: Brexit - Leave or Remain poll Wed Jun 22, 2016 11:10 pm
I think they had the right idea in Logan's Run.
Moist_Von_Lipwig
Posts : 1573 Join date : 2011-10-07 Age : 111
Subject: Re: Brexit - Leave or Remain poll Wed Jun 22, 2016 11:10 pm
Every EU state has a veto (Cyprus? Greece? and don't forget YOUR ELECTED government!).
Politicians say one thing in public...... a bit like Boris....http://eu-rope.ideasoneurope.eu/2016/03/08/boris-changed-mind-europe/
and here...
Moist_Von_Lipwig
Posts : 1573 Join date : 2011-10-07 Age : 111
Subject: Re: Brexit - Leave or Remain poll Wed Jun 22, 2016 11:18 pm
Anyhow......
Whatever the result I will respect it.
I hope that everyone else can do that too.
Moist_Von_Lipwig
Posts : 1573 Join date : 2011-10-07 Age : 111
Subject: Re: Brexit - Leave or Remain poll Wed Jun 22, 2016 11:19 pm
Bis Morgen...
Guest Guest
Subject: Re: Brexit - Leave or Remain poll Wed Jun 22, 2016 11:23 pm
Firstly moist Brent managed to tick over a hundred boxes ina week to bring us out of admin, the first one is always the hardest. Secondly having two twenty something kids who both are voting leave, all their mates I've talked to are voting leave, I was at a gig recently and the young band were banging the leave drum, I reckon that young middle aged or old you'll find the same split. I must say I was surprised by the views of the yoof I spoke to. In other news Sandie Shaw was making a right Francis Drake of herself on the great debate, hilarious. All a waste of time, no one is changing their minds now. We may well start the domino effect and bring Europe down if we stay in anyway, more than one way to skin a cat.
Charlie Wood
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Subject: Re: Brexit - Leave or Remain poll Wed Jun 22, 2016 11:23 pm
Moist_Von_Lipwig wrote:
Do "youngsters" know nothing and/or must they listen to the "oldie" experts who know best?
Unwittingly you might just have hit the nail on the head there Moist. My wife was over at her daughters house helping with some gardening this afternoon. At dinner the in laws made sure their son's polling card was in his hand and told him he needed to vote tomorrow. Now, he's a great lad but his response was "what's this all about then!". As for my step daughter, she said her polling card was "somewhere about" but what's the point anyway.
Hugh Midde
Posts : 1010 Join date : 2015-11-02 Location : The Happy Isles where nobody grows old
Subject: Re: Brexit - Leave or Remain poll Wed Jun 22, 2016 11:30 pm
Every EU state has a veto (Cyprus? Greece? and don't forget YOUR ELECTED government!).
Boxes me sod all! Mutti and Brussels will fill their mouths with gold and the Turks will be in. Rely on it.
As for Cameron. he'd use his last breath to lie.
Sir Francis Drake
Posts : 7461 Join date : 2011-12-03 Age : 33 Location : Nr Panama
Subject: Re: Brexit - Leave or Remain poll Thu Jun 23, 2016 1:01 am
Hugh Midde wrote:
Moist_Von_Lipwig wrote:
Hugh Midde wrote:
Moist_Von_Lipwig wrote:
What I find a bit ironic is that all the "oldies" are voting out and all the "youngsters" (who it will really affect - let's get it right, it's the next generation who will have to pick up the pieces should it all go wrong - the "oldies" will be dead or hoping that some immigrant will be looking after them!
It's the Oldies that flew the Lancasters and Spitfires that maintained our freedom.
I don't think that YOU are that old.......
The EU is not another nazi Germany!
Edited to add... The Hurricane pilots did more if you are really interested in FACTS!!
Good grief! You are stupendously thick. Yes, Hurricane squadrons outnumbered Spitfire squadrons during the Battle of Britain. However, the Hurricane was withdraw soon after and modified to fly off modified merchant ships like HMS Vindix to protect convoys. The Spitfire went from the Mark 1 right up to the mark 23 and was still flying at the wars end. As for Hawker, after the Hurricane was withdrawn from frontline service they went on to produce the Typhoon, Tempest and the Fury.
All flown by chaps not unlike these old boys.
Tringreen
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Subject: Re: Brexit - Leave or Remain poll Thu Jun 23, 2016 3:56 am
Voting intentions show that the vast majority of educated young people want to remain. Not surprising that the majority of young Argiggle fans seem to want to leave..................and most of the oldies lol