Argyle and the German FC model

A general question regarding Argyle for discussion.

Whilst yesterday's news is welcome, do you feel that Argyle have missed a great opportunity to secure the long term future of the club and send a message to British football?

By that, I mean, go the whole hog and sign 51% of the club over to "the club" and adopt the German model for running clubs.

Why not? It's not as if the club cost a huge amount of money to buy!

Moist_Von_Lipwig wrote:

A general question regarding Argyle for discussion.

Whilst yesterday's news is welcome, do you feel that Argyle have missed a great opportunity to secure the long term future of the club and send a message to British football?

By that, I mean, go the whole hog and sign 51% of the club over to "the club" and adopt the German model for running clubs.

Why not? It's not as if the club cost a huge amount of money to buy!

Depends who is running the club really but in principle I agree with you.

Tringreen wrote:

Moist_Von_Lipwig wrote:

A general question regarding Argyle for discussion.

Whilst yesterday's news is welcome, do you feel that Argyle have missed a great opportunity to secure the long term future of the club and send a message to British football?

By that, I mean, go the whole hog and sign 51% of the club over to "the club" and adopt the German model for running clubs.

Why not? It's not as if the club cost a huge amount of money to buy!

Depends who is running the club really but in principle I agree with you.

The people running the club are basically elected by the club members (fans)!

Moist_Von_Lipwig wrote:

Tringreen wrote:

Moist_Von_Lipwig wrote:

A general question regarding Argyle for discussion.

Whilst yesterday's news is welcome, do you feel that Argyle have missed a great opportunity to secure the long term future of the club and send a message to British football?

By that, I mean, go the whole hog and sign 51% of the club over to "the club" and adopt the German model for running clubs.

Why not? It's not as if the club cost a huge amount of money to buy!

Depends who is running the club really but in principle I agree with you.

The people running the club are basically elected by the club members (fans)!

In which case we'd probably have the lunatics running the asylum ?

Tringreen wrote:

Moist_Von_Lipwig wrote:

Tringreen wrote:

Moist_Von_Lipwig wrote:

A general question regarding Argyle for discussion.

Whilst yesterday's news is welcome, do you feel that Argyle have missed a great opportunity to secure the long term future of the club and send a message to British football?

By that, I mean, go the whole hog and sign 51% of the club over to "the club" and adopt the German model for running clubs.

Why not? It's not as if the club cost a huge amount of money to buy!

Depends who is running the club really but in principle I agree with you.

The people running the club are basically elected by the club members (fans)!

In which case we'd probably have the lunatics running the asylum ?

Not at all. The boards here are very professional. As are the fans reps.

Moist_Von_Lipwig wrote:

Tringreen wrote:

Moist_Von_Lipwig wrote:

Tringreen wrote:

Moist_Von_Lipwig wrote:

A general question regarding Argyle for discussion.

Whilst yesterday's news is welcome, do you feel that Argyle have missed a great opportunity to secure the long term future of the club and send a message to British football?

By that, I mean, go the whole hog and sign 51% of the club over to "the club" and adopt the German model for running clubs.

Why not? It's not as if the club cost a huge amount of money to buy!

Depends who is running the club really but in principle I agree with you.

The people running the club are basically elected by the club members (fans)!

In which case we'd probably have the lunatics running the asylum ?

Not at all. The boards here are very professional. As are the fans reps.

And the cream would rise to the top in Plymouth too ?

I would love that to be the case Moist. I would also love their admittance prices and their train infrastructure and prices, but this is not the birthplace of Marx, merely his subject matter.
If it were run properly, I'm sure more attractive people would rise to the challenge than have to date. It will be fscinating who decides to stand.

A question, Mr Moist.

In Germany, they have worker directors, who I think are elected by union members, on the boards of lots of companies. From what I've read, it mostly works well, but there's a problem that some of those worker directors get institutionalised, acting more like 'directors' and less like 'workers'.

Does this happen with their football clubs as well?

(No agenda, just interested. I have got a book about German football, but haven't got round to reading it.)

Peggy wrote:

A question, Mr Moist.

In Germany, they have worker directors, who I think are elected by union members, on the boards of lots of companies. From what I've read, it mostly works well, but there's a problem that some of those worker directors get institutionalised, acting more like 'directors' and less like 'workers'.

Does this happen with their football clubs as well?

(No agenda, just interested. I have got a book about German football, but haven't got round to reading it.)

I don't know Peggy but as we're all human, I guess it does happen. That person acting like a director could well not survive the next vote though.

As for the "workers council" in general, they are very powerful (and in most cases very sensible)!

The 3 things i'd steal from germany would be;

1) The introduction of safe standing
2) Cheap ticket prices
3) Youth systems run like those in germany

monti czardas wrote:

The 3 things i'd steal from germany would be;

1) The introduction of safe standing
2) Cheap ticket prices
3) Youth systems run like those in germany

4) Ability at penalty shootouts

Moist_Von_Lipwig wrote:

Peggy wrote:

A question, Mr Moist.

In Germany, they have worker directors, who I think are elected by union members, on the boards of lots of companies. From what I've read, it mostly works well, but there's a problem that some of those worker directors get institutionalised, acting more like 'directors' and less like 'workers'.

Does this happen with their football clubs as well?

(No agenda, just interested. I have got a book about German football, but haven't got round to reading it.)

I don't know Peggy but as we're all human, I guess it does happen. That person acting like a director could well not survive the next vote though.

As for the "workers council" in general, they are very powerful (and in most cases very sensible)!

Thanks, Moisty. I suppose it depends on the intelligence and integrity of the worker director.