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PostSubject: Shoreham Air Crash   Shoreham Air Crash EmptyMon Aug 24, 2015 5:45 am

Our thoughts goes out to all the people killed and injured in this air crash.

especially the fans and  families of the players killed and missing from Worthing fc on their way to play a game.

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Victims who have been named by their families include Matt Jones, 24, and Worthing United FC footballer Matthew Grimstone, 23.

Another Worthing United footballer, Jacob Schilt, 23, is also believed to be among the victims, his club said.
In a statement, Worthing United FC said Mr Grimstone was their first team goalkeeper and "a brilliant player with huge potential". and Mr Schilt was a "tenacious midfielder, a skilful player, with an eye for goal", the club added


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PostSubject: Re: Shoreham Air Crash   Shoreham Air Crash EmptyMon Aug 24, 2015 6:38 am

Perhaps it's time to stop flying vintage planes, or eventually there will be none left. Confine them to commenertive fly pasts.
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PostSubject: Re: Shoreham Air Crash   Shoreham Air Crash EmptyMon Aug 24, 2015 9:31 am

pepsipete wrote:
Perhaps it's time to stop flying vintage planes, or eventually there will be none left.  Confine them to commenertive fly pasts.


Very touching Pete, losing an old plane is far more important than the dozen or so innocents killed.....RIP plane.
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PostSubject: Re: Shoreham Air Crash   Shoreham Air Crash EmptyMon Aug 24, 2015 9:52 am

Pretty shocking event, just imagine driving along the road and seeing a jet hurtling down towards you with the realisation that this is the end. Due condolences to all involved, looks like the death toll could yet rise.
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PostSubject: Re: Shoreham Air Crash   Shoreham Air Crash EmptyMon Aug 24, 2015 10:21 am

Very sad, although there have been an awful lot of small plane crashes recently, Newquay, the emergency landing and subsequent impounding at Plymouth Aorport by those scum shhc, Popham airfield had one recently and the Bin Laden family at the car auctions, is it the time of year?
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PostSubject: Re: Shoreham Air Crash   Shoreham Air Crash EmptyMon Aug 24, 2015 10:43 am

It's worth pointing out again how safe flying is compared to every other form of transport. I heard somewhere that 2014 was the safest year ever in the history of modern aviation, despite the two Malaysia Airlines disasters and the Air Asia loss.
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PostSubject: Re: Shoreham Air Crash   Shoreham Air Crash EmptyMon Aug 24, 2015 10:56 am

Not strictly true Chris. In terms of mileage covered then yes. But only including take off and landings then no.

The overriding fear is that you know what's coming in a plane. It's truly horrific.
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PostSubject: Re: Shoreham Air Crash   Shoreham Air Crash EmptyMon Aug 24, 2015 12:03 pm

Do away with airports and use seaplanes, far safer landing at sea and Plymouth could have an air service again. Heathrow could be replaced by Southend.
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PostSubject: Re: Shoreham Air Crash   Shoreham Air Crash EmptyMon Aug 24, 2015 2:42 pm

......and where does a seaplane land in bad weather.....and how fast could one go on a long haul flight..... :Suicide: .
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PostSubject: Re: Shoreham Air Crash   Shoreham Air Crash EmptyMon Aug 24, 2015 2:49 pm

You are affected by weather at all airports. Speed may be slower, but if flying to say Sydney an extra hour would not make a lot of difference.
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PostSubject: Re: Shoreham Air Crash   Shoreham Air Crash EmptyMon Aug 24, 2015 3:04 pm

What about a fleet of Zeppelins landing on the Hoe Foreshore?
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PostSubject: Re: Shoreham Air Crash   Shoreham Air Crash EmptyMon Aug 24, 2015 3:10 pm

pepsipete wrote:
You are affected by weather at all airports.  Speed may be slower, but if flying to say Sydney an extra hour would not make a lot of difference.




Airport weather would need to be very bad to abort a landing.......a flight to Sydney would take far longer than another hour....unless they developed a retractable float....it would be a hell of a monster to carry 500 passengers....needing a serious jet engine development to cope with a water take-off....plus a reasonable flight time for a long haul trip.
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PostSubject: Re: Shoreham Air Crash   Shoreham Air Crash EmptyMon Aug 24, 2015 3:12 pm

Iggy wrote:
What about a fleet of Zeppelins landing on the Hoe Foreshore?


Hoe,hoe,hoe..... raised eyebrow
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PostSubject: Re: Shoreham Air Crash   Shoreham Air Crash EmptyMon Aug 24, 2015 3:57 pm

Back to the drawing board Pete Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: Shoreham Air Crash   Shoreham Air Crash EmptyMon Aug 24, 2015 3:58 pm

And where would a seaplane land in Ivybridge FFS!
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PostSubject: Re: Shoreham Air Crash   Shoreham Air Crash EmptyMon Aug 24, 2015 4:02 pm

Just give the passengers parachutes that our programmed with their home/destination address......would be a whole new meaning to "the mother-in-law is just popping in".
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PostSubject: Re: Shoreham Air Crash   Shoreham Air Crash EmptyMon Aug 24, 2015 4:04 pm

AstiSpumante wrote:
And where would a seaplane land in Ivybridge FFS!




Where would a normal plane land in Ivybridge anyway........we'll all have to move to the Lake Distict.
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PostSubject: Re: Shoreham Air Crash   Shoreham Air Crash EmptyMon Aug 24, 2015 4:56 pm

Cornish Chris wrote:
It's worth pointing out again how safe flying is compared to every other form of transport. I heard somewhere that 2014 was the safest year ever in the history of modern aviation, despite the two Malaysia Airlines disasters and the Air Asia loss.

True. Proportionately, at least. A pretty awful irony there aswell because the pilot has survived!

It just makes you think how unlucky those poor fuckers driving along that stretch of road at that particular time were. I wonder what the odds are of you travelling in a car and being killed by a plane are!!?? More chance of winning the EuroMillions, I'd wager.
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PostSubject: Re: Shoreham Air Crash   Shoreham Air Crash EmptyMon Aug 24, 2015 5:42 pm

zyph wrote:
AstiSpumante wrote:
And where would a seaplane land in Ivybridge FFS!




Where would a normal plane land in Ivybridge anyway........we'll all have to move to the Lake Distict.


We've got a canal in Tiverton, so a seaplane would be very handy for me.
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PostSubject: Re: Shoreham Air Crash   Shoreham Air Crash EmptyMon Aug 24, 2015 6:38 pm

So they have now grounded that type of aircraft ... very sad for the families involved but its a massive over-reaction. IF you held them over the sea you would have 100s of little boats under the display line and holding in a field would mean no static a/c and a car park right under the display line.
Did they ground all 747s after the last Jumbo crash
.. or the A320s
.. or trains after an accident
.. or cars and coaches
No they did not. A very unfortunate accident but we all do things that have an element of danger which includes watching air shows, driving past airfields, using a bus or train ...
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PostSubject: Re: Shoreham Air Crash   Shoreham Air Crash EmptyMon Aug 24, 2015 7:22 pm

What a horror, like something out of Donnie Darko. Poor innocents.
Talking of trains, busses and planes, I noticed the press were very reluctant at first to say the pilot didn't die. The difference in reporting these warplanes is so different than, say, when the train driver went around a bend too fast recently killing 50. He was slaughtered in the press within hours. Who put out that sort of information ? How come everything is a polar opposite with pilots here. I think we all know why.
Air shows have always been far too dangerous, and should be banned, or at least acrobatics held over the sea. But then where would the propaganda value be.
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PostSubject: Re: Shoreham Air Crash   Shoreham Air Crash EmptyMon Aug 24, 2015 10:18 pm

Cornish Chris wrote:
It's worth pointing out again how safe flying is compared to every other form of transport. I heard somewhere that 2014 was the safest year ever in the history of modern aviation, despite the two Malaysia Airlines disasters and the Air Asia loss.

I think that is commercial aviation, private jets and prop aircraft are going down all the time, crap pilots and poor maintenance is much of the problem although Harrison Ford crashed last year and he is a renowned top pilot with a pretty limitless budget to spend on his aircraft.

As unfortunate as it is for those involved this is just another example of shit happening, air shows are v popular and major accidents are rare....ish, football didn't stop after Hillsboro, they will tighten up the rules a tad and life will go on.
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PostSubject: Re: Shoreham Air Crash   Shoreham Air Crash EmptyMon Aug 24, 2015 10:25 pm

Lord Tisdale wrote:
football didn't stop after Hillsboro, they will tighten up the rules a tad and life will go on.

So, you reckon they're going to insist all spectators are seated at future air shows ?
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PostSubject: Re: Shoreham Air Crash   Shoreham Air Crash EmptyMon Aug 24, 2015 10:51 pm

John Hawkins wrote:
Lord Tisdale wrote:
football didn't stop after Hillsboro, they will tighten up the rules a tad and life will go on.

So, you reckon they're going to insist all spectators are seated at future air shows ?

"Airshows have always been far too dangerous"???

Fecking knob jockey.
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PostSubject: Re: Shoreham Air Crash   Shoreham Air Crash EmptyMon Aug 24, 2015 11:03 pm

Looking at the footage, the pilot seemed to attempt the loop so low it was stupid, leaving himself basically no room for error whatsoever. Whether it's the plane, the pilor or whatever. It's cost lives in the end, RIP.
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