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PostSubject: Re: Jezza Corbyn   Jezza Corbyn - Page 7 EmptyTue Sep 15, 2015 3:01 pm

Czarcasm wrote:
The vast majority of under 25's who are really into politics will fall into one or more of these brackets...

1)Privately educated toffs who see a potential career path.
2)Activist types whose idea of a good day out is sitting on a floor somewhere in Totnes discussing which joss stick creates the best ambience.
3)Geeky nerds with no social skills who'd run a mile if Demi Lovato opened their bedroom door and offered to giving them a good seeing to.

Agree on that but we don't need the majority of under 25's really into politics but it would be handy if they were enfranchised enough to bother voting which neither of my two have.
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PostSubject: Re: Jezza Corbyn   Jezza Corbyn - Page 7 EmptyTue Sep 15, 2015 5:18 pm

im still convinced he wont be labour leader come election he will have a leadership challenge within 2 years
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PostSubject: Re: Jezza Corbyn   Jezza Corbyn - Page 7 EmptyTue Sep 15, 2015 6:03 pm

The other candidates were totally unconvincing, just like Ed. At least Corbyn is different, doesn't speak from a carefully worded script and just might tap into a rising tide of support for workers' rights in face of the ever increasing control of beauracrats and their multi national corporation masters.
He is also uncertain of the UK's future within the EU under the present conditions. Labour and the Liberal's  refusal to even consider a referendum, pissed a lot of people off.

If he does get challenged, it will take a straight talking and believable character to carry enough voters with him. IMO the only one who could oust him would be David Milliband.
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PostSubject: Re: Jezza Corbyn   Jezza Corbyn - Page 7 EmptyTue Sep 15, 2015 7:00 pm

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im still convinced he wont be labour leader come election he will have a leadership challenge within 2 years
I was thinking zackly that driving home in my shirt, tie and brogues. (no socks)
Anyway Brothers and Sisters (phrase used today by Crackhead Corbyn) when he said ''lets make Britain more equal'' does he mean that those who flicked paper around the classroom and left school at 16 with no exams should be equal to me in the pecking order of a ''comfortable lifestyle'' when I worked hard at skool and have worked bleedy hard since even though I'm over 60?
I notice there was not a word said by him or his comrades today about the 75th anniversary of Battle of Britain. As Corbyn hates the armed forces so much then The Cenotaph in Nov could be interesting.
''We'll keep the green flag flying''
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PostSubject: Re: Jezza Corbyn   Jezza Corbyn - Page 7 EmptyTue Sep 15, 2015 7:01 pm

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If Jezza's Red Army get Massacered at the next Election, what next! get Tone to make a comeback?
I've got a job now thanks laugh
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PostSubject: Re: Jezza Corbyn   Jezza Corbyn - Page 7 EmptyTue Sep 15, 2015 7:20 pm

Corbyn is nothing but an anarchist, appointing a kindred spirit who wishes he had the opportunity to assassinate someone & who regarded Red Ken as too right wing to the biggest shadow cabinet job, & a vegan, who is on record as saying she opposes all forms of fishing & farming as shadow for the agriculture, fisheries & food.
You couldn't make this shit up. Be amazed if he lasts a year.
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PostSubject: Re: Jezza Corbyn   Jezza Corbyn - Page 7 EmptyTue Sep 15, 2015 8:54 pm

Tringy is right. Corbyn's Sceptical stance on Europe is a winner. Even Frank Field the erstwhile wannabe cross bencher reckoned his stance on Europe will be popular. The Blairites are furious. Wonderful to see.
In my opinion, labour didn't lose on economic polic in Englandy. They lost on the immigration/Europe issues, although Scotland was quite different reasons. They lost Scotland so heavily because they were too far to the right. They lost far more votes to ukip than the Tories. Poor old Nige will be pulling his hair out now for his own chances next time round.

With the way the Germans are turning, and the way they just trod all over Greece in the name of the bankers, I am now decidedly uneasy about the European thing. Things are moving fast, borders going up everywhere. Cameron would be horrified if Labour decided to go down the populist route and put their weight behind an exit along with Mirage in the eu  referendum. Nobody knows where it's all headed. Good to have a bit of proper politics back at the palace.
As an example of how fast things are progressing, the general motors boss in the UK was on the radio this morning stating there would be no change in their UK business investment whether the UK stays in Europe or pulls out.
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PostSubject: Re: Jezza Corbyn   Jezza Corbyn - Page 7 EmptyTue Sep 15, 2015 9:20 pm

Good to see him not singing God Save Brenda today.
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PostSubject: Re: Jezza Corbyn   Jezza Corbyn - Page 7 EmptyTue Sep 15, 2015 9:32 pm

ROFLMFAO @ at the lefties. Kippers have clearly been in favour all along of leaving the EU & been dismissed, to a man, by the lefties as barking Nazis.
Comrade Corbyn suddenly implies the same & it's like he's some academic deity & nobody has ever thought of it before.
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PostSubject: Re: Jezza Corbyn   Jezza Corbyn - Page 7 EmptyTue Sep 15, 2015 9:50 pm

Tringreen wrote:
The other candidates were totally unconvincing, just like Ed. At least Corbyn is different, doesn't speak from a carefully worded script and just might tap into a rising tide of support for workers' rights in face of the ever increasing control of beauracrats and their multi national corporation masters.
He is also uncertain of the UK's future within the EU under the present conditions. Labour and the Liberal's  refusal to even consider a referendum, pissed a lot of people off.

If he does get challenged, it will take a  straight talking and believable character to carry enough voters with him. IMO the only one who could oust him would be David Milliband.
Out of interest really but what rights do you think workers don't have?
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PostSubject: Re: Jezza Corbyn   Jezza Corbyn - Page 7 EmptyTue Sep 15, 2015 9:51 pm

Get a grip  FY, It's nor the immigration issue.  Corbyn is concerned Cameron will extract working benefit,  workers protection opt outs from the Germans. He won't stand for .that, hence no blank cheque. And to quote the Tories, he's got the mandate to do so.. No point being in Europe if it turns right. Rather different reasons than Mirage, I think you'll agree, but strange bed fellows come across each other sometimes.
But you're free to think otherwise. It's politics, and all about getting what you want when you're not in power. Sturgeon is doing the same thing. Great to see the lefties upping the anti in a way the Blairites never did.
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PostSubject: Re: Jezza Corbyn   Jezza Corbyn - Page 7 EmptyTue Sep 15, 2015 10:17 pm

A Brexit, for whatever reason achieves the same result SJH, I'm happy however it's done, however only a few short weeks ago it was regarded as inconceivable to all but UKIPers.
How quickly things change in politics.
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PostSubject: Re: Jezza Corbyn   Jezza Corbyn - Page 7 EmptyTue Sep 15, 2015 10:30 pm

Cornish Chris wrote:
Good to see him not singing God Save Brenda today.

why? Is insulting veterans at the battle of britan memorial a good thing now?
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PostSubject: Re: Jezza Corbyn   Jezza Corbyn - Page 7 EmptyTue Sep 15, 2015 10:36 pm

FY 310 wrote:
ROFLMFAO @ at the lefties. Kippers have clearly been in favour all along of leaving the EU & been dismissed, to a man, by the lefties as barking Nazis.
Comrade Corbyn suddenly implies the same & it's like he's some academic deity & nobody has ever thought of it before.

This is spot on. JC followers are reacting as if it's the second coming.

The reality ,I suspect, is that this JC is more of a Brian.

It appears that he couldn't organise a cock up in a brothel.

I'll give him 18 months and then the Labour MP's which ditch him.
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PostSubject: Re: Jezza Corbyn   Jezza Corbyn - Page 7 EmptyTue Sep 15, 2015 10:42 pm

I always thought the initials JC stood for Jeherek Cornelius.
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PostSubject: Re: Jezza Corbyn   Jezza Corbyn - Page 7 EmptyTue Sep 15, 2015 10:51 pm

Angry wrote:
Cornish Chris wrote:
Good to see him not singing God Save Brenda today.

why? Is insulting veterans at the battle of britan memorial a good thing now?

How is not singing the national anthem 'insulting veterans of the Battle of Britain'?
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PostSubject: Re: Jezza Corbyn   Jezza Corbyn - Page 7 EmptyTue Sep 15, 2015 10:58 pm

Flat_Track_Bully wrote:
Angry wrote:
Cornish Chris wrote:
Good to see him not singing God Save Brenda today.

why? Is insulting veterans at the battle of britan memorial a good thing now?

How is not singing the national anthem 'insulting veterans of the Battle of Britain'?

its a church service for them and its about them not for him to promote his republican views by pulling a blatant stunt like that...especially as he bent the knee to said queen only hours before to join her council such a rebel is ole jezza lol!
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PostSubject: Re: Jezza Corbyn   Jezza Corbyn - Page 7 EmptyTue Sep 15, 2015 11:01 pm

Exactly. There were plenty of soldiers in ww2 that hated it, and the monarchy. Many, many citizens don't, sing it, and  even footballers before internationals. I do wish people would stop using the armed forces thing to beat people around the head with. Get a life,, and just accept people have different ideas.
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PostSubject: Re: Jezza Corbyn   Jezza Corbyn - Page 7 EmptyTue Sep 15, 2015 11:04 pm

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Exactly. There were plenty of soldiers in ww2 that hated it, and the monarchy. Many, many citizens don't, sing it, and  even footballers before internationals. I do wish people would stop using the armed forces thing to beat people around the head with. Get a life,, and just accept people have different ideas.

so if cameron did that you would be this "understanding" would you?
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PostSubject: Re: Jezza Corbyn   Jezza Corbyn - Page 7 EmptyTue Sep 15, 2015 11:26 pm

Angry wrote:
Flat_Track_Bully wrote:
Angry wrote:
Cornish Chris wrote:
Good to see him not singing God Save Brenda today.

why? Is insulting veterans at the battle of britan memorial a good thing now?

How is not singing the national anthem 'insulting veterans of the Battle of Britain'?

its a church service for them and its about them not for him to promote his republican views by pulling a blatant stunt like that...especially as he bent the knee to said queen only hours before to join her council such a rebel is ole jezza lol!

Strangely he hasn't 'promoted' anything about it, it's not a publicity stunt - it's the right wing press that's made a big deal about it, not him or Labour. So again, how is it an insult to veterans?

Interestingly Cameron once said that the UK were a 'junior partner' in WW2 - did you register your 'outrage' at that too?

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PostSubject: Re: Jezza Corbyn   Jezza Corbyn - Page 7 EmptyTue Sep 15, 2015 11:31 pm

Flat_Track_Bully wrote:
Angry wrote:
Flat_Track_Bully wrote:
Angry wrote:
Cornish Chris wrote:
Good to see him not singing God Save Brenda today.

why? Is insulting veterans at the battle of britan memorial a good thing now?

How is not singing the national anthem 'insulting veterans of the Battle of Britain'?

its a church service for them and its about them not for him to promote his republican views by pulling a blatant stunt like that...especially as he bent the knee to said queen only hours before to join her council such a rebel is ole jezza lol!

Strangely he hasn't 'promoted' anything about it, it's not a publicity stunt - it's the right wing press that's made a big deal about it, not him or Labour. So again, how is it an insult to veterans?

Interestingly Cameron once said that the UK were a 'junior partner' in WW2 - did you register your 'outrage' at that too?

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so its beneath him to do what everyone else in that church who probably hate the song as much as he does did and sing the national anthem of his country in honour of British men who died protecting this country? should have skipped the event if he is that much of a rebel. He knew as leader of the country's opposition the cameras would be on him he choose not to sing the anthem regardless.

The guy hates the armed forces that such is fact so he is going to have fun in november especially if he insists on wearing a white poppy like normally does.

and as for the last bit, britain was compared to usa and russia near the end of the war so whats you point? stood alone for the rest of the time but it took the usa and russia to defeat hitler.
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PostSubject: Re: Jezza Corbyn   Jezza Corbyn - Page 7 EmptyTue Sep 15, 2015 11:35 pm

Sir John Hawkins wrote:
I do wish people would stop using the armed forces thing to beat people around the head with. Get a life,, and just accept people have different ideas.

This was an occasion to commemorate the 75th anniversary of the Battle of Britain.

In case you didn't know Sir John, It's the one where thousands of men and women sacrificed their lives to enable us all to have 'different ideas'.

Your 'Get a Life' quote is so inappropriate as they didn't have a choice.

Still, never mind eh. Sleep tight.
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PostSubject: Re: Jezza Corbyn   Jezza Corbyn - Page 7 EmptyTue Sep 15, 2015 11:56 pm

Angry wrote:
Flat_Track_Bully wrote:
Angry wrote:
Flat_Track_Bully wrote:
Angry wrote:
Cornish Chris wrote:
Good to see him not singing God Save Brenda today.

why? Is insulting veterans at the battle of britan memorial a good thing now?

How is not singing the national anthem 'insulting veterans of the Battle of Britain'?

its a church service for them and its about them not for him to promote his republican views by pulling a blatant stunt like that...especially as he bent the knee to said queen only hours before to join her council such a rebel is ole jezza lol!

Strangely he hasn't 'promoted' anything about it, it's not a publicity stunt - it's the right wing press that's made a big deal about it, not him or Labour. So again, how is it an insult to veterans?

Interestingly Cameron once said that the UK were a 'junior partner' in WW2 - did you register your 'outrage' at that too?

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so its beneath him to do what everyone else in that church who probably hate the song as much as he does did and sing the national anthem of his country in honour of British men who died protecting this country? should have skipped the event if he is that much of a rebel. He knew as leader of the country's opposition the cameras would be on him he choose not to sing the anthem regardless.  

The guy hates the armed forces that such is fact so he is going to have fun in november especially if he insists on wearing a white poppy like normally does.

and as for the last bit, britain was compared to usa and russia near the end of the war so whats you point? stood alone for the rest of the time but it took the usa and russia to defeat hitler.

I don't have a problem with what Cameron said - I don't think the deaths of 100,000s of British Soilders made us a 'junior partner', but it was probably just a slip of the tongue on Cameron's part while he was thinking on his feet about a question. However I also don't have a problem with Corbyn not singing the national anthem - it's not a big issue unless you are the sort of person who goes round looking to be outraged by something. It makes no difference to the people who served in the war whether a guy sings the national anthem or not at a service. I see you also complain about the white poppy thing. Interestingly the Royal British Legion have never had a problem with people wearing a white poppy - so I'm not sure why you feel the need to get so upset by it.
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PostSubject: Re: Jezza Corbyn   Jezza Corbyn - Page 7 EmptyWed Sep 16, 2015 12:06 am

Flat_Track_Bully wrote:
Angry wrote:
Flat_Track_Bully wrote:
Angry wrote:
Flat_Track_Bully wrote:
Angry wrote:
Cornish Chris wrote:
Good to see him not singing God Save Brenda today.

why? Is insulting veterans at the battle of britan memorial a good thing now?

How is not singing the national anthem 'insulting veterans of the Battle of Britain'?

its a church service for them and its about them not for him to promote his republican views by pulling a blatant stunt like that...especially as he bent the knee to said queen only hours before to join her council such a rebel is ole jezza lol!

Strangely he hasn't 'promoted' anything about it, it's not a publicity stunt - it's the right wing press that's made a big deal about it, not him or Labour. So again, how is it an insult to veterans?

Interestingly Cameron once said that the UK were a 'junior partner' in WW2 - did you register your 'outrage' at that too?

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so its beneath him to do what everyone else in that church who probably hate the song as much as he does did and sing the national anthem of his country in honour of British men who died protecting this country? should have skipped the event if he is that much of a rebel. He knew as leader of the country's opposition the cameras would be on him he choose not to sing the anthem regardless.  

The guy hates the armed forces that such is fact so he is going to have fun in november especially if he insists on wearing a white poppy like normally does.

and as for the last bit, britain was compared to usa and russia near the end of the war so whats you point? stood alone for the rest of the time but it took the usa and russia to defeat hitler.

I don't have a problem with what Cameron said - I don't think the deaths of 100,000s of British Soilders made us a 'junior partner', but it was probably just a slip of the tongue on Cameron's part while he was thinking on his feet about a question. However I also don't have a problem with Corbyn not singing the national anthem - it's not a big issue unless you are the sort of person who goes round looking to be outraged by something. It makes no difference to the people who served in the war whether a guy sings the national anthem or not at a service. I see you also complain about the white poppy thing. Interestingly the Royal British Legion have never had a problem with people wearing a white poppy -  so I'm not sure why you feel the need to get so upset by it.

white poppies raise money for corporations not charity so another rebel act from jezza if he wears one in november Laughing Laughing
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