The New Hillsborough Inquest

Phrases like "mobilising as victims" and "community oriented grieving" certainly seem perjorative, but let's assume that they're not.

There's no hierarchy of grief. But Bradford had an end, for the main. Not for the people who survived or the families of those that didn't, but the fire was investigated, Popplewell made recommendations and the follow through was new ground safety legislation, banning of smoking in grounds, complete overhaul of ground safety and closure of unsafe stands. And now Bradford has a worldwide reputation medically for research and treatment of burns. So out of that tragedy came something - even a tiny something - that mattered. There was a reason to remember the dead.

Hillsborough is about remembering the dead but never forgetting them either. There's a subtle difference there. Hillsborough families never had their justice, never had their fair enquiry, never saw the tiny bit of comfort that comes with a life lost but something good coming out of it.

Rather, the families were told that their bretheren urinated on bodies, picked the pockets of the dead, caused deaths by bad behaviour. They were told lies and consistently obstructed and traduced by the police and by government at the highest levels for decades.

So for me that's why Hillsborough needs to be remembered every year in as public and prominent way as possible. Who knows, once that justice arrives as it surely will, the families can grieve privately and we'll remember every year and commemorate big anniversaries, just as we do Bradford, Heysel, Munich, Ibrox etc.

I wouldn't like to see Hillborough remembered on a national level annually, sure the clubs involved will and should mark the anniversary but the families need to move on, now that all the bullshit has been shown up for what it is I hope the families will be able to finally have some closure.

If you want to see firstly one of the best atmospheres in Europe, secondly it all done in safe standing and thirdly one of the more spine tingling tributes to the tragedy at Hillsborough these are Borussia Dortmund's fans at a game on Tuesday. I can't imagine any English club doing likewise.

I remember partying with these fans in a bar in London before the CL final last year. Great support.

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Bloody hell, Dick! I haven't seen such scenes at a football match for many years. That's impressive!

Awful song

Justice for the 96
you"ll never walk alone.

Dane. wrote:

Awful song

Is this jealousy at the absence of any kind of anthem or terrace presence at Old Trafford?

What could Dortmund do as a tribute to Man Utd - wear green and gold scarves (whatever happened to that campaign?) or bring a prawn sandwich each?

ejh wrote:

Dane. wrote:

Awful song

Is this jealousy at the absence of any kind of anthem or terrace presence at Old Trafford?

What could Dortmund do as a tribute to Man Utd - wear green and gold scarves (whatever happened to that campaign?) or bring a prawn sandwich each?

prawn sandwich in they're armchairs at homes surely,