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'Private Eye' Vs 'The Red Tops'...

Bit like ATD Vs Pasoti isn't it?

Those with 'minds' Vs those who can be 'mobilised'...
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I love Private Eye always have .

Comparing ADT to it may be pushing it a bit far - but ATD has a touch of Hello magazine thrown with its obsession with " Personalities " .

Why the obsession with Pasoti ? Why not be a real independent Argyle Forum . Its more like GCHQ on here . I have this strange picture of an underground bunker with banks of "observers" monitoring Pasoti . ( Well it makes me smile )
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PostSubject: Re: 'Private Eye' Vs 'The Red Tops'   'Private Eye' Vs 'The Red Tops' EmptyThu Dec 08, 2011 7:53 pm

I've always liked Private Eye compared to may publications, but give me Peter Cook over that Ian Hyslop any day. He does what he does, but in the end, it's not much more than a public school jape with ex pupils having a controlled spat within certain parameters. a bit like the Palace of Westminster really.... sort of mops up energy that would otherwise be directed at the status quo with a bit more force.
Give me Benny Two Hedges anyday ... far more real.
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I've always liked Private Eye compared to may publications, but give me Peter Cook over that Ian Hyslop any day. He does what he does, but in the end, it's not much more than a public school jape with ex pupils having a controlled spat within certain parameters. a bit like the Palace of Westminster really.... sort of mops up energy that would otherwise be directed at the status quo with a bit more force.
Give me Benny Two Hedges anyday ... far more real.

Sorry to break this to you but Peter Cook is dead . Sorry if I've spoilt your evening . UP THE WORKERS !
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PostSubject: Re: 'Private Eye' Vs 'The Red Tops'   'Private Eye' Vs 'The Red Tops' EmptyThu Dec 08, 2011 8:07 pm

greengenes wrote:
I love Private Eye always have .

Comparing ADT to it may be pushing it a bit far - but ATD has a touch of Hello magazine thrown with its obsession with " Personalities " .

Why the obsession with Pasoti ? Why not be a real independent Argyle Forum . Its more like GCHQ on here . I have this strange picture of an underground bunker with banks of "observers" monitoring Pasoti . ( Well it makes me smile )

Bletchley Park,actually.Good documentary on telly the other day about the chaps who broke the Enigma code and very clever they were,too.Such valuable information gleaned for the assault on the Hun.I'm inclined to agree with Pirate on this one,i've always had the feeling that there's a certain amount of public school score settling about some of its material,quite funny in places though.Do they still get writs isued against them all over the place?
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PostSubject: Re: 'Private Eye' Vs 'The Red Tops'   'Private Eye' Vs 'The Red Tops' EmptyThu Dec 08, 2011 8:15 pm

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greengenes wrote:
I love Private Eye always have .

Comparing ADT to it may be pushing it a bit far - but ATD has a touch of Hello magazine thrown with its obsession with " Personalities " .

Why the obsession with Pasoti ? Why not be a real independent Argyle Forum . Its more like GCHQ on here . I have this strange picture of an underground bunker with banks of "observers" monitoring Pasoti . ( Well it makes me smile )

Bletchley Park,actually.Good documentary on telly the other day about the chaps who broke the Enigma code and very clever they were,too.Such valuable information gleaned for the assault on the Hun.I'm inclined to agree with Pirate on this one,i've always had the feeling that there's a certain amount of public school score settling about some of its material,quite funny in places though.Do they still get writs isued against them all over the place?

Nah GCHQ on here . The listening site .
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PostSubject: Re: 'Private Eye' Vs 'The Red Tops'   'Private Eye' Vs 'The Red Tops' EmptyThu Dec 08, 2011 8:17 pm

greengenes wrote:
I love Private Eye always have .

Comparing ADT to it may be pushing it a bit far - but ATD has a touch of Hello magazine thrown with its obsession with " Personalities " .

Why the obsession with Pasoti ? Why not be a real independent Argyle Forum . Its more like GCHQ on here . I have this strange picture of an underground bunker with banks of "observers" monitoring Pasoti . ( Well it makes me smile )

Pasoti is the oldest and largest Argyle forum. It currently appears to hold some sway with the club. We shall find out in time what that relationship is really all about.

The Pasoti hierarchy and their nodding supporters have a history of brown nosing those in power at Home Park, silencing dissenting voices and contributing to the mess the club now finds itself in.

Diddy James would appear to believe the local bheys can be useful to him and the club. Only time will tell.

It might work in the 'backs against the wall' plight we are currently in but I can't see there being enough sophistication on board to re engage cynical long time supporters, let alone attract the wider public through the gates.

If the club is settling for long term, parochial mediocrity, it will be a very sad day.

Really hope I'm wrong and that we get some decent football people in the boardroom.
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PostSubject: Re: 'Private Eye' Vs 'The Red Tops'   'Private Eye' Vs 'The Red Tops' EmptyThu Dec 08, 2011 8:26 pm

Tringreen wrote:
greengenes wrote:
I love Private Eye always have .

Comparing ADT to it may be pushing it a bit far - but ATD has a touch of Hello magazine thrown with its obsession with " Personalities " .

Why the obsession with Pasoti ? Why not be a real independent Argyle Forum . Its more like GCHQ on here . I have this strange picture of an underground bunker with banks of "observers" monitoring Pasoti . ( Well it makes me smile )

Pasoti is the oldest and largest Argyle forum. It currently appears to hold some sway with the club. We shall find out in time what that relationship is really all about.

The Pasoti hierarchy and their nodding supporters have a history of brown nosing those in power at Home Park, silencing dissenting voices and contributing to the mess the club now finds itself in.

Diddy James would appear to believe the local bheys can be useful to him and the club. Only time will tell.

It might work in the 'backs against the wall' plight we are currently in but I can't see there being enough sophistication on board to re engage cynical long time supporters, let alone attract the wider public through the gates.

If the club is settling for long term, parochial mediocrity, it will be a very sad day.

Really hope I'm wrong and that we get some decent football people in the boardroom.

Diddy James - who he ? (ed)
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PostSubject: Re: 'Private Eye' Vs 'The Red Tops'   'Private Eye' Vs 'The Red Tops' EmptyThu Dec 08, 2011 8:27 pm

greengenes wrote:
Tringreen wrote:
greengenes wrote:
I love Private Eye always have .

Comparing ADT to it may be pushing it a bit far - but ATD has a touch of Hello magazine thrown with its obsession with " Personalities " .

Why the obsession with Pasoti ? Why not be a real independent Argyle Forum . Its more like GCHQ on here . I have this strange picture of an underground bunker with banks of "observers" monitoring Pasoti . ( Well it makes me smile )

Pasoti is the oldest and largest Argyle forum. It currently appears to hold some sway with the club. We shall find out in time what that relationship is really all about.

The Pasoti hierarchy and their nodding supporters have a history of brown nosing those in power at Home Park, silencing dissenting voices and contributing to the mess the club now finds itself in.

Diddy James would appear to believe the local bheys can be useful to him and the club. Only time will tell.

It might work in the 'backs against the wall' plight we are currently in but I can't see there being enough sophistication on board to re engage cynical long time supporters, let alone attract the wider public through the gates.

If the club is settling for long term, parochial mediocrity, it will be a very sad day.

Really hope I'm wrong and that we get some decent football people in the boardroom.

Diddy James - who he ? (ed)


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PostSubject: Re: 'Private Eye' Vs 'The Red Tops'   'Private Eye' Vs 'The Red Tops' EmptyThu Dec 08, 2011 8:38 pm

greengenes wrote:
Tringreen wrote:
greengenes wrote:
I love Private Eye always have .

Comparing ADT to it may be pushing it a bit far - but ATD has a touch of Hello magazine thrown with its obsession with " Personalities " .

Why the obsession with Pasoti ? Why not be a real independent Argyle Forum . Its more like GCHQ on here . I have this strange picture of an underground bunker with banks of "observers" monitoring Pasoti . ( Well it makes me smile )

Pasoti is the oldest and largest Argyle forum. It currently appears to hold some sway with the club. We shall find out in time what that relationship is really all about.

The Pasoti hierarchy and their nodding supporters have a history of brown nosing those in power at Home Park, silencing dissenting voices and contributing to the mess the club now finds itself in.

Diddy James would appear to believe the local bheys can be useful to him and the club. Only time will tell.

It might work in the 'backs against the wall' plight we are currently in but I can't see there being enough sophistication on board to re engage cynical long time supporters, let alone attract the wider public through the gates.

If the club is settling for long term, parochial mediocrity, it will be a very sad day.

Really hope I'm wrong and that we get some decent football people in the boardroom.

Diddy James - who he ? (ed)

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PostSubject: Re: 'Private Eye' Vs 'The Red Tops'   'Private Eye' Vs 'The Red Tops' EmptyThu Dec 08, 2011 9:04 pm

Tringreen wrote:

The Pasoti hierarchy and their nodding supporters have a history of brown nosing those in power at Home Park, silencing dissenting voices and contributing to the mess the club now finds itself in.


I'm not sure about that Tringy, for a long time the very mention of the word was pretty much a sacking offence within the hallowed walls. God help anybody found actually loking at the site.

Of course that was in the days when free speech reigned supreme. I guess that changed when some of the more influential were got at to scupper the consortium's rescue plan.
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I'm not sure about that Tringy, for a long time the very mention of the word was pretty much a sacking offence within the hallowed walls. God help anybody found actually loking at the site.

And where did this little nugget of 'truth' come from? Why Pasoti itself, of course!

Is there any evidence to support this claim. Was Pasoti singled out, or was it part of a general policy of not allowing employes to surf the internet on company time? God forbid they shouldn't be stopped from doing that!

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Sorry to disappoint you Ricks, it came from an old chums wife who was reasonably well up the management structure at the time (Championship days).
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Sorry to disappoint you Ricks, it came from an old chums wife who was reasonably well up the management structure at the time (Championship days).

I've heard it direct from staff too . The old lot despised Pasoti
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PostSubject: Re: 'Private Eye' Vs 'The Red Tops'   'Private Eye' Vs 'The Red Tops' EmptyThu Dec 08, 2011 11:29 pm


So we're led to believe that anyone could look at almost any web site as long as it wasn't Pasoti?

How would management know anyway? They went around checking everyones computers and cell phones?

What on earth would a policy like that achieve except ridicule?
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PostSubject: Re: 'Private Eye' Vs 'The Red Tops'   'Private Eye' Vs 'The Red Tops' EmptyThu Dec 08, 2011 11:41 pm

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So we're led to believe that anyone could look at almost any web site as long as it wasn't Pasoti?

How would management know anyway? They went around checking everyones computers and cell phones?

What on earth would a policy like that achieve except ridicule?

Sorry but I am not a teacher .... work it out for yourself . Of course we could all be lying . Do you think we are ?
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PostSubject: Re: 'Private Eye' Vs 'The Red Tops'   'Private Eye' Vs 'The Red Tops' EmptyThu Dec 08, 2011 11:54 pm

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Rickler wrote:

So we're led to believe that anyone could look at almost any web site as long as it wasn't Pasoti?

How would management know anyway? They went around checking everyones computers and cell phones?

What on earth would a policy like that achieve except ridicule?

Sorry but I am not a teacher .... work it out for yourself . Of course we could all be lying . Do you think we are ?

I have worked it out for myself. You just failed to realise that.

Do I think you are lying? No. I think more than likely the 'message' has been adapted to fit what the messenger wanted to portray.

Hollywood and the oscars has nothing on Pasoti when it comes to self gloryfication!

What is far more likely is that a total ban was put on employees surfing the net and that in chinese whisper style was reported as employees soley being banned from pasoti as that is more than likely what the majority were reading.

So c'mon then Greengenes... How was this policy enforced?
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Presumably Argyle runs a computer network across all the various offices and there must be somebody who oversees it. That person could easily block any site so that access to that site was impossible anywhere on the network. All very easily done. Just like parents blocking porn sites so that their kids can't get at them.
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What about personal mobile devices?

I dunno... It just seems to be a policy that would be unenforcable and what would you achieve anyway - denying them access for at the most, four hours?
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PostSubject: Re: 'Private Eye' Vs 'The Red Tops'   'Private Eye' Vs 'The Red Tops' EmptyFri Dec 09, 2011 8:02 am

Pasoti was on a sort of club blacklist but if you cast your minds back it was at the time when many of us and others were screaming about what Stapes was up to when we and others were using Pasoti. This is why Pasoti was purged of dissenting voices, it was holding back one or two social ladder climbers.

Also, Peter Jones was a more prolific and venomous poster. "Ian", during his time supporting Stapes as Stapes was dismantling the club, told me that he nearly banned PJ, how time heals eh!

I was quite close to an ex players family at the time so I heard a quite bit of gossip. Rotg was also on that list but I know that several players read it and at least one posted on a fairly regular basis.

It's only time, if it isn't already, before this site is placed on a similar list although I'm not so sure that Brent will have the same fears as Stapes.

Nobody likes a critical eye when their ego is at stake or when skulduggery is taking place, they get caught out.
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Spend 10 minutes perusing Pasoti these days and it is quite startling how the site has flipped 180 degrees, from being an independent fansite where fans could debate, question and if need be, give both barrels at how PAFC was being ran.

Now, almost literally, it is an extension of the official site.

Censored and Sanitised. That could pretty much be their motto.
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Spend 10 minutes perusing Pasoti these days and it is quite startling how the site has flipped 180 degrees, from being an independent fansite where fans could debate, question and if need be, give both barrels at how PAFC was being ran.

Now, almost literally, it is an extension of the official site.

Censored and Sanitised. That could pretty much be their motto.


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Spend 10 minutes perusing Pasoti these days and it is quite startling how the site has flipped 180 degrees, from being an independent fansite where fans could debate, question and if need be, give both barrels at how PAFC was being ran.

Now, almost literally, it is an extension of the official site.

Censored and Sanitised. That could pretty much be their motto.

Pasoti is certainly far too closely aligned to the club now and has now effectively replaced Argyle Insider as the informal on-line communication medium.
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