Middle East Blood Bath 2014

They do make the UZI a fine lead spitter at close range

VillageGreen wrote:

Here is the beforeitsnews link of the beheading of the Iraqi chap by the hands of ISIS..It was taken down, but it is running again and if any of you do have the stomach to watch, it is not very nice at all. They could have just shot the poor bloke.

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Shocking way of getting a message across to a global audience though.

I have not looked at this......I suggest to the mods that no one else needs to see it on here or any other other site.....unnecessary to fill your mind with such horror.

zyph wrote:

VillageGreen wrote:

Here is the beforeitsnews link of the beheading of the Iraqi chap by the hands of ISIS..It was taken down, but it is running again and if any of you do have the stomach to watch, it is not very nice at all. They could have just shot the poor bloke.

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Shocking way of getting a message across to a global audience though.

I have not looked at this......I suggest to the mods that no one else needs to see it on here or any other other site.....unnecessary to fill your mind with such horror.

It is a news story of what is going on over there in Iraq and it shows what sick people ISIS are and it also shows their warped ideology. I know it is a no-no video, but it is out there in the public domain for all to see.

I fully understand if it has to be removed though and i do not have an issue with that. Perhaps the mods can pm the link to ATD members if they wish to see the video and comment themselves regarding it.

VillageGreen wrote:

Angry wrote:

downthetrack wrote:

All gone a bit quiet on the media regarding Iraq & Syria
Plenty of coverage of Gaza though Israel protecting itself ? that's not on

from what? israel has an army, navy, air force, some of the worlds most hi tech military equipment including dome defence.

Palestine has nothing.

The USA supplies Isreal with most of its arsenal, it is like Men Vs Boys when it kicks off over there.

Will there ever be peace in that region ?.

There can be and all it would take is usa/uk to finally tell israel to stick to un agreements, withdraw its defence contracts and allow palestine to have its free and independent state with east jerusalem as its capital. It would take hamas in return to recognise israel and their right to exist. But while the zionist state continues to oppress Palestinians, using machine guns on them and kicking them out of their homes there will never be peace as that tends to lead to retaliation..

downthetrack wrote:

Angry wrote:

downthetrack wrote:

All gone a bit quiet on the media regarding Iraq & Syria
Plenty of coverage of Gaza though Israel protecting itself ? that's not on

from what? israel has an army, navy, air force, some of the worlds most hi tech military equipment including dome defence.

Palestine has nothing.

The Arabs have thousands of square miles of land .Israel has 8000 sq miles but that's to much for the Arabs.

really? try looking at a map today and tell me if you can find Palestine.

Angry wrote:

VillageGreen wrote:

Angry wrote:

downthetrack wrote:

All gone a bit quiet on the media regarding Iraq & Syria
Plenty of coverage of Gaza though Israel protecting itself ? that's not on

from what? israel has an army, navy, air force, some of the worlds most hi tech military equipment including dome defence.

Palestine has nothing.

The USA supplies Isreal with most of its arsenal, it is like Men Vs Boys when it kicks off over there.

Will there ever be peace in that region ?.

There can be and all it would take is usa/uk to finally tell israel to stick to un agreements, withdraw its defence contracts and allow palestine to have its free and independent state with east jerusalem as its capital. It would take hamas in return to recognise israel and their right to exist. But while the zionist state continues to oppress Palestinians, using machine guns on them and kicking them out of their homes there will never be peace as that tends to lead to retaliation..

Was it not the UK that formed [and had a hand in] the mess that we see today in that region...The British mandate of Palestine 1920-1948.

I think we have had a hand in every historical feck up since time began, thank goodness all of our current and recent leaders have never looked at a history book, as we seem to still manage it now.

VillageGreen wrote:

Angry wrote:

VillageGreen wrote:

Angry wrote:

downthetrack wrote:

All gone a bit quiet on the media regarding Iraq & Syria
Plenty of coverage of Gaza though Israel protecting itself ? that's not on

from what? israel has an army, navy, air force, some of the worlds most hi tech military equipment including dome defence.

Palestine has nothing.

The USA supplies Isreal with most of its arsenal, it is like Men Vs Boys when it kicks off over there.

Will there ever be peace in that region ?.

There can be and all it would take is usa/uk to finally tell israel to stick to un agreements, withdraw its defence contracts and allow palestine to have its free and independent state with east jerusalem as its capital. It would take hamas in return to recognise israel and their right to exist. But while the zionist state continues to oppress Palestinians, using machine guns on them and kicking them out of their homes there will never be peace as that tends to lead to retaliation..

Was it not the UK that formed [and had a hand in] the mess that we see today in that region...The British mandate of Palestine 1920-1948.

yeap

Blame Moses and the parting of the Red Sea.....a few thousand years before the British Mandate.....and then of course there was the odd crusade or two or three or four etc.

I doubt if the Israelis would take much notice of the UK and our run down military compared with what they can muster.

zyph wrote:

Blame Moses and the parting of the Red Sea.....a few thousand years before the British Mandate.....and then of course there was the odd crusade or two or three or four etc.

I doubt if the Israelis would take much notice of the UK and our run down military compared with what they can muster.

Not seen any miracles like that for a few thousands years ,moses was a hot bed for um.Billions still believe.

VillageGreen wrote:

The USA supplies Isreal with most of its arsenal, it is like Men Vs Boys when it kicks off over there.
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The fourbies are at the absolute cutting edge of weapons development, they back engineer all the Yank kit and sell the enhancements back to them at enormous profit, all the new avionics which are pushing the Russki 4th generation aircraft into a completely new class, theoretically not up with the F22 or the F35, but when do the Yanks ever get one or other of them off the ground?

If Hamas are so big and brave why don't they come out and fight? They sneak about shooting off their two bob missiles from sites in residential areas inviting the IDF to shoot back, of course they are going to do that and kids get killed, you makes your own mind up as to who is really responsible.

Gaza is in effect an open air prison, no doubt of that, but Hamas know they have a short window of opportunity, the new regime in Cairo is gonna be far less supportive than the Muzzy Bruvs, The Hez is cutting their funding because they are the different flavour of Muzzy, it's now or never for the Hammies and a few dead babies is not an issue for them murdering basts.

Israel stands as the big bad bully but they really don't have any option, if the Gazians wised up and kissed a little fourby and Gyptian butt life could get a lot better super quick, it ain't freedom of course, but perhaps they might like to ask the Syrians about the advantages of freedom.

zyph wrote:

I have not looked at this......I suggest to the mods that no one else needs to see it on here or any other other site.....unnecessary to fill your mind with such horror.

Yeah, any chance of having it replaced with a video of little fluffy kittens or "dogs that do math"?

Angry wrote:

There can be and all it would take is usa/uk to finally tell israel to stick to un agreements, withdraw its defence contracts and allow palestine to have its free and independent state with east jerusalem as its capital.

Oh purleaze!

The fourbies could care less what we think and have far more pull on the Hill than Bammy could ever dream of.

"defence contracts"?

Israel has the most advanced defence systems in the world, they sell to everybody that has a buck or a tanker of oil, they take all the over priced Yank junk, make it work properly for a third of the price and then sell it back to a grateful Merika.

Sorry for the spate of posts but it is too hot in the garden and the Missus has nicked the only car with air con that works so I am stuck indoors with no inclination to do owt but annoy you Janners.

ISIS killing 1000s of minorities Sayeeda Warsi & Mehdi Hasan say feck all, but if it were Israel

Double standards or what, all this free gaza shit when hamas goading them into retaliation by firing rockets hiding behind women and children for protection.

But it's ok for ISIS to commit genocide in Iraq against peaceful human beings just because they are non muslim, no protests about that.

Libya, Iran, Egypt, Iraq, Syria, Israel. The whole region is fecked up and getting worse by the day.

Sometimes I feel as though it's the beginning of the end for mankind. Hopefully this Ebola think will kill us all so we can start over.

You can add Afghanistan Ukraine and Pakistan to that lot.

Pafcintheplace wrote:

Double standards or what, all this free gaza shit when hamas goading them into retaliation by firing rockets hiding behind women and children for protection.

But it's ok for ISIS to commit genocide in Iraq against peaceful human beings just because they are non muslim, no protests about that.

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It's simple really. If there was one murderous scumbag who was rightly known for what he is and was shunned by polite company, then there wouldn't be such a need to draw attention to him as there would be nothing more that we could do to stop him. That right there, is ISIS. But if an altogether different murdering scumbag was seen by polite company as a close friend, a pillar of the community and was regularly invited around for dinner in the full brazen awareness of the crimes he had committed then it's natural that people who aren't blinded by establishment, pro-Israel politics are going to raise more eyebrows at the second murderer than they are the first murderer.

The line about human shields is completely debunked by the way. Gaza is a tiny, open air prison. It is one of the tiniest and most densely populated places in the world that is involved in a conflict. There is no way that Gaza can defend itself against Israel's onslaught without it being in civilian areas. That's horrible to say but it's also the truth- and whose fault is that? It's Israel's for occupying and imprisoning them there in the first place.

I'm sick of this narrative that Israel is the weakling who has a right to defend itself against an onslaught. If an army of foreign settlers invaded England, scythed it in half, occupied half of it for themselves and then over the next 65 years proceeded to edge it's way into the second half, moving the borders (as well as leaving a chunk of the second half trapped in a densely populated open air prison) then people would have a hell of a lot of different stuff to say about it.

What utter feckin rubbish HAMAS hide behind schools mosques UN buildings 3500rockets they have fired into Israel in a month

Always a useful infographic on the background to these discussions. The mainstream media always frame Israel of 'retaliating' against Palestinian attacks, but never frame the Palestinians attacks as 'retaliation' against invasion and occupation.



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The sooner its all white the better

 

For what ?

downthetrack wrote:

The sooner its all white the better

I'm assuming Tracky that you are implying that when we have all learned to live together in peace and harmony there would be no need for cartographers to differentiate on the basis of ethnicity or religion.

Dunno why anybody would think that was a bad thing?

Bumped into an anti Israel tw@ with his Gaza sign yesterday, verbally ripped him a new'un to the amusement of a dozen or so passers by, strange how the zealots are so one eyed, of course kids and civilians getting killed in Gaz is a tragedy, but it ain't the exclusive responsibility of the 4bees, almost everyone that has ever been involved in the Sandpit bears some degree of blame.

The whole Sandpit is a tinder box, the Ukrainian version of the EDL is sat in Kiev while their thugs bomb civvies in Donetsk, half of Africa is either getting raped, shot or is in fear of Ebola, Central America has a death toll from guns which makes Gaza look like a garden party yet the headlines are about some fat, useless, bitch Tory throwing her toys out of the pram.

You couldn't make it up.