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There is no simple solution. If you throw all extremists out, where do they go and even if you can find somewhere to take them, they have a new 'safe' breeding ground for hatred ? That brings us back to why we are in Afghanistan, as it was used by Al Qaeda as a training ground for terrorist attacks on the west.

Maybe anyone spouting so called religious or racial hatred should be put on uninhabited islands and kept there. Let them rot and kill eachother.
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Cobi Budge, what a fuckin tosspot you are.

Read a blog by some racist prick who's recruiting for the BNP and decide to post it on Pasoti.

http://pasoti.co.uk/talk/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=76966&start=0

If the little scumbag tries posting on here again I hope he's abused so much that he deletes his account.

Cobi and his EDL/BNP loving Devonport mates. feck off you thick little twats!
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links to racism allowed on tuther site but not links to democratic argo forums. you couldnt make it up.

amazing how they all come out the woodwork at moments like this.

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Cobi Budge ‏@_cobibudge 19 Apr
Britain invented the modern world and all Western Nations, without our drive the world would still be reading by candle light.

Quote :
Cobi Budge ‏@_cobibudge 19 Apr
For over 60 years her Majesty Queen Elizabeth the second has ruled over us with courage and clarity, god save the queen.

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there was a time when i would say, about cobi, that hes young, he'll learn. now i have to say, what a fucktard
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Mapperley, darling wrote:
there was a time when i would say, about cobi, that hes young, he'll learn. now i have to say, what a fucktard

He's a few beansprouts short of a stirfry, darling.
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Mapperley, darling wrote:
there was a time when i would say, about cobi, that hes young, he'll learn. now i have to say, what a fucktard

I actually could have written that word for word.
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Agree with Tring. Not the full shilling.
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needs to learn to make considered opinions & not just react all the time.

act NOT react.
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Ignorant bile is learned and can be un-learned.

Cobi and his racist little apples haven't had much exposure outside of 95% white Plymouth.

He seems misguided rather than vitriolic.

An easy target...just like those of islamic faith atm.
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Pokesdown wrote:
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Cobi Budge ‏@_cobibudge 19 Apr
Britain invented the modern world and all Western Nations, without our drive the world would still be reading by candle light.

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Cobi Budge ‏@_cobibudge 19 Apr
For over 60 years her Majesty Queen Elizabeth the second has ruled over us with courage and clarity, god save the queen.


If only we had a school inside Home Park, we could get cobi some education.
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I wonder what PL2-Face's take is on all of this?
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what do you mean ?
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What else has to happen in this country for us to get rid of all these Muslim pricks.

I'm saying I don't trust any of them.

Would you feel 100% confident about sitting next to a Muslim man on a plane ? I know I wouldn't ? And why not. Because they are always involved in any trouble that goes on. More often than not, they are not to be trusted.

It's having your head in the clouds. It's that kind of " do gooder" attitude that has allowed all these no hopers to come here in the first place. Even if they were born here. It always seem to be the same type who get brain washed and then attack the country that allowed there parents to live in and bring up a family. People have had enough.

Damon I just don't trust them. What's the problem with that.



Last night I posted the above - part of one online row I was having on Facebook. With the words of young Cobi being published I now feel a little more comfortable attributing the above nonsense to it's author - a man who wishes to have your vote in the upcoming elections - Mr Dane Bunney.
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Damon.Lenszner wrote:
What else has to happen in this country for us to get rid of all these Muslim pricks.

I'm saying I don't trust any of them.

Would you feel 100% confident about sitting next to a Muslim man on a plane ? I know I wouldn't ? And why not. Because they are always involved in any trouble that goes on. More often than not, they are not to be trusted.

It's having your head in the clouds. It's that kind of " do gooder" attitude that has allowed all these no hopers to come here in the first place. Even if they were born here. It always seem to be the same type who get brain washed and then attack the country that allowed there parents to live in and bring up a family. People have had enough.

Damon I just don't trust them. What's the problem with that.



Last night I posted the above - part of one online row I was having on Facebook. With the words of young Cobi being published I now feel a little more comfortable attributing the above nonsense to it's author - a man who wishes to have your vote in the upcoming elections - Mr Dane Bunney.

Why am I not suprised in the slightest? Mods, do you think it's only the right thing to do and remove him (Dane) from his moderating submission? and maybe more?
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Elias wrote:
what do you mean ?

Nothing, just thinking out aloud. pig
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Damon.Lenszner wrote:
What else has to happen in this country for us to get rid of all these Muslim pricks.

I'm saying I don't trust any of them.

Would you feel 100% confident about sitting next to a Muslim man on a plane ? I know I wouldn't ? And why not. Because they are always involved in any trouble that goes on. More often than not, they are not to be trusted.

It's having your head in the clouds. It's that kind of " do gooder" attitude that has allowed all these no hopers to come here in the first place. Even if they were born here. It always seem to be the same type who get brain washed and then attack the country that allowed there parents to live in and bring up a family. People have had enough.

Damon I just don't trust them. What's the problem with that.



Last night I posted the above - part of one online row I was having on Facebook. With the words of young Cobi being published I now feel a little more comfortable attributing the above nonsense to it's author - a man who wishes to have your vote in the upcoming elections - Mr Dane Bunney.


I certainly agree that those views are odious though sadly I've read worse. The trouble is that there are a number of other posters on here who post such nonsense on facebook & on twitter. I know because I've read them. Do we then turn into an East German Stasi informants circle and demand retribution? I find sexism abhorrent - if I hear that elsewhere should it lead to a banning from this site? I find anti-gay stances objectionable. There is a poster on here who was banned from Argyle for a period - is that grounds for banning from ATD? Where do we stop? I know my view is not universally shared - indeed a poster who I like actually closed their account when we allowed coathy to sign up to here. I respect his view but I don't agree with him (I mean the person who closed their account Smile ). So far it seems that the best antidote to the EDL & the BNP has been simply to allow them to speak ........

Rightly or wrongly, the current mod team decided that such posters are acceptable on here UNTIL they bring that bile with them publicly.

There is nothing against anyone challenging anyone else on here. The site as whole will then respond and, based on previous showing the site will give the assholes short shrift and as long as it is done within the norms of this site, it would be fun to watch.
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Can you actually ban someone from a forum if they've not broken the rules on here? Do the ATD terms and conditions extend outside of this forum? Genuine question rather than a judgemental post.

For what it's worth Dane - you need to meet my neighbour. He's a Muslim and about the only person in my street I'd trust to give my front door key to if I went on holiday.
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Back on topic, apparently the attackers were actually known to the
police which of course opens up a whole new can of worms.
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The victim's been named now. 25 and had a 2 year old son. No

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http://uk.news.yahoo.com/woolwich-suspect-handed-radical-leaflets-125619985.html#bFZxymy

Handed out radical leaflets, in the current climate surely these bastards should be under lock and key?
Beggars belief, those limp wristed liberals,their supporters and the politicians that have sold this country down the swanny should be hanging their heads in shame over this.
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I'm pretty confident that Dane won't be elected a mod on here because of his past. He's been ok since he's been back on so it was a good move to allow him back. He adds to some debates and hasn't done anything worthy of another ban so nothing should be done unless he spouts any overtly racist shit on here.

I actually feel sorry for him reading that. It means he's reading the wrong newspaper or more likely he doesn't know any Muslims and has never worked with them which at his age is incredible.

I think Cobi's a bigger dickhead for trying to preach against Muslims and trying to make an intelligent case for the BNP.

Unless people are educated about Islam and extremism quickly there is going to be some awful incidents of retribution and random acts of violence towards anybody with dark skin in the near future.

What happened yesterday was incredibly shocking and hard to comprehend and apart from a very, very, very small minority of zealots and extremists, it has been condemned worldwide. There is a bloody good reason for this and that is because the guy you sit next to on a plane, train or anywhere else isn't a feckin terrorist and probably feels just as shocked and horrified as white Anglo Saxon protestants.

If these people are good enough to cook your supper for you they're ok to sit next to on a plane.

Something needs to be done against terrorism and for me against the US and their friends invading countries at the drop of a hat under some bullshit excuse, when they turn a blind eye to equally horrific and barbaric behaviour when it suits them, usually when there are profits to be made by going in or staying out.

Nearly all of us on here didn't like things Margaret Thatcher did but if another country decided to invade us to "Save us" from the devil, I'm pretty sure we wouldn't bloody like them interfering. This is what happens on a regular basis around the world and it makes these people, or some of them, equally angry.

It's by no means an excuse for any act of terrorism but any BNP or EDL supporting tw@t who smashes kebab shop windows or make innocent families lives hell because of yesterday's outrage, then that makes them just as big a part of the world problem.

I've fallen out with a few people I thought were more intelligent than they've proved to be over the last 24 hours and unless they take their heads out of their asses and open their eyes, it's no great loss to me.
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knecht wrote:
Damon.Lenszner wrote:
What else has to happen in this country for us to get rid of all these Muslim pricks.

I'm saying I don't trust any of them.

Would you feel 100% confident about sitting next to a Muslim man on a plane ? I know I wouldn't ? And why not. Because they are always involved in any trouble that goes on. More often than not, they are not to be trusted.

It's having your head in the clouds. It's that kind of " do gooder" attitude that has allowed all these no hopers to come here in the first place. Even if they were born here. It always seem to be the same type who get brain washed and then attack the country that allowed there parents to live in and bring up a family. People have had enough.

Damon I just don't trust them. What's the problem with that.



Last night I posted the above - part of one online row I was having on Facebook. With the words of young Cobi being published I now feel a little more comfortable attributing the above nonsense to it's author - a man who wishes to have your vote in the upcoming elections - Mr Dane Bunney.


I certainly agree that those views are odious though sadly I've read worse. The trouble is that there are a number of other posters on here who post such nonsense on facebook & on twitter. I know because I've read them. Do we then turn into an East German Stasi informants circle and demand retribution? I find sexism abhorrent - if I hear that elsewhere should it lead to a banning from this site? I find anti-gay stances objectionable. There is a poster on here who was banned from Argyle for a period - is that grounds for banning from ATD? Where do we stop? I know my view is not universally shared - indeed a poster who I like actually closed their account when we allowed coathy to sign up to here. I respect his view but I don't agree with him (I mean the person who closed their account Smile ). So far it seems that the best antidote to the EDL & the BNP has been simply to allow them to speak ........

Rightly or wrongly, the current mod team decided that such posters are acceptable on here UNTIL they bring that bile with them publicly.

There is nothing against anyone challenging anyone else on here. The site as whole will then respond and, based on previous showing the site will give the assholes short shrift and as long as it is done within the norms of this site, it would be fun to watch.

Accept the decision mods. Was raging last night at the sheer volume of racist bullshit being spouted - not really my call to get anyone banned from here - in Jock's terminology the Landlord does the barring. But hopefully this 'outing' will keep the Bunney away.
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I was raging at this atrocity to be fair, and i still am now...tell me Damon, do you support acts like this?
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A young man has been decapitated in full public view, lots of people are seething with anger and rightly so.
Sometimes angry people say things they do not mean.
I may be right,maybe wrong but ive read all 4 pages of this thread and not once do you condone the actions of those 2 animals that carried out this atrocity, and also this thread was to discuss "the Woolwich killing" not to be hijacked into something else
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