Boston Marathon Explosions

Horrid scenes at the finish line at the Boston Marathon two big explosions 50 injuried estimated and some fatalities reported.

Explosions At Boston Marathon: 'Many Injured'

I dont think this was terror related (not bin laden's lot more likliy a local nutjob) though unlike fox news who wanted iran invaded as a result.

There's some pretty gory images on Twitter.

"yes I know you've had your legs blown off, but I just want to get some pics of you uploaded for twitter, then I'll call 911."



Fox news now reporting at least 3 dead.

There was a live feed of the finishing line where it happened Czarcasm. In addition, it's the nature of the news now that individuals submit images/video. It's horrible that people are injured or dead but without those images, the full effect gets lost in the censored, traditional news stories that just focus on the 'sadness' and 'tragedy'.

If this is a bomb, it's likely to be some loony right wing nutjob as it's patriots day and it's tax day in the US. It's too small-scale to be the 'evil doers'.

hairy j wrote:

There was a live feed of the finishing line where it happened Czarcasm. In addition, it's the nature of the news now that individuals submit images/video. It's horrible that people are injured or dead but without those images, the full effect gets lost in the censored, traditional news stories that just focus on the 'sadness' and 'tragedy'.

If this is a bomb, it's likely to be some loony right wing nutjob as it's patriots day and it's tax day in the US. It's too small-scale to be the 'evil doers'.

Exactly hairy, its got far right nutjob written all over it. If it where international i'd would expect a big target hit.

Apparently, the families of the victims of Newtown were at the finish line as guests of honour. I really hope it wasn't some NRA nutter. None of them were injured. There was a third bomb that's been detonated.

Sad.

42 people died in Bagdhad today in a series of bombs by the way.

Angry of Manchester wrote:

I dont think this was terror related

Oh dear.

Lord Tisdale wrote:

Angry of Manchester wrote:

I dont think this was terror related

Oh dear.

again you are the guest kindly know your role and quote me properly innit.

Not 'terror related' as in an Islamic extremist group. This ain't a thread for point scoring. There's images on Twitter of people with their legs blown off.

Expect the following though - CNN will use it to create yet more fear in a World that really doesn't need it.

Bombs apparantly - so far two dead and many injured

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hairy j wrote:

Not 'terror related' as in an Islamic extremist group.

So it isn't terror unless the perps pray on a Friday?

You made a pertinent point when you mentioned the on going situation in Iraq but then you blew it by climbing on to Angry's right wing nut bag conspiracy theory, based of course, as usual, on nothing beyond uninformed speculation.

A bomb goes off in a public place it is a terrorist attack, it doesn't matter what colour or religion the perps are, says a lot about the OPer that he thinks it is a bigger deal that a few people in the US are killed than the hundreds that die daily in the Middle East

3rd and 4th devices found - white smoke indicates crude device, no plastic explosive. Evidence so far equates to US based right wing nutters.

Lord Tisdale wrote:

hairy j wrote:

Not 'terror related' as in an Islamic extremist group.

So it isn't terror unless the perps pray on a Friday?

You made a pertinent point when you mentioned the on going situation in Iraq but then you blew it by climbing on to Angry's right wing nut bag conspiracy theory, based of course, as usual, on nothing beyond uninformed speculation.

A bomb goes off in a public place it is a terrorist attack, it doesn't matter what colour or religion the perps are, says a lot about the OPer that he thinks it is a bigger deal that a few people in the US are killed than the hundreds that die daily in the Middle East

Huge parts of the Middle East are warzones so, although the bombings are 'just as bad', they happen in a warzone. When these incidents happen in places we'd generally view as safe, it seems worse, there's more of an'emotional impact.

It's true that terrorism is terrible and it doesn't matter who plants the bombs but when it happens in a safe place, it's far more shocking.

Awful.

hairy j wrote:

Not 'terror related' as in an Islamic extremist group. This ain't a thread for point scoring. There's images on Twitter of people with their legs blown off.

Expect the following though - CNN will use it to create yet more fear in a World that really doesn't need it.

Exactly hairy.

Lord Tisdale wrote:

hairy j wrote:

Not 'terror related' as in an Islamic extremist group.

So it isn't terror unless the perps pray on a Friday?

You made a pertinent point when you mentioned the on going situation in Iraq but then you blew it by climbing on to Angry's right wing nut bag conspiracy theory, based of course, as usual, on nothing beyond uninformed speculation.

A bomb goes off in a public place it is a terrorist attack, it doesn't matter what colour or religion the perps are, says a lot about the OPer that he thinks it is a bigger deal that a few people in the US are killed than the hundreds that die daily in the Middle East

Just what in the name of Blue hell are you on about conspiracy theory? There are alot of far right nut jobs from America willing to do acts like this Atlanta 96 and Oklahoma being two examples. The fact you are nit picking on a subject like this just sums up why exeweb dont want you thick as shit... blocked as of now

Tis a foked up world we live in, it's sad it has to be like this.

Well at least it's something Newell is not responsible for.

I blame Thatcher

There was an interesting discussion on R4 just now, the subject was how Obama and Amaericans in general are reticent in calling any attack in America carried out by Americans "terrorist attack", they prefer "mass killings" or "multiple murders", they seem to think that terrorists have to be foreigners.

hairy j wrote:

Huge parts of the Middle East are warzones so, although the bombings are 'just as bad', they happen in a warzone. When these incidents happen in places we'd generally view as safe, it seems worse, there's more of an'emotional impact.

Except of course the "terrorist" bombings generally take place where a degree of normality exists, true enough Central Boston is a step higher up a scale of what you would consider to be a safe place.

I wish people wouldn't throw the term "rightwing" about, these guys don't vote, although I would suggest that the amount of smoke does indicate pretty low quality explosive along with the low death to injury rate, probably fairly simple pipe bombs wrapped in nails sited under some seats in the bleachers, hench the amount of limb damage.

A truly sad event in a world of sad events, a 'NATO' missile wipes out a bunch of kids in Afghanistan, is that ok because the target was what is perceived to be a bad man?

Terrorism is all about killing just a dozen people yet still managing to scare millions, three people I believe have lost their lives so far in Boston yet the ramifications are spreading far and wide in what we like to consider to be the "civilised world", arrangements for Mags' send off have gone into mega frenzy mode, let's face it, there are I would suggest far more 'left wing' loonies who would like to make some statement of their values in that context than 'right wing' loonies who would target a huge festival of fun and sport, albeit that that would seem to be an easier target.

Angry of Manchester wrote:

Just what in the name of Blue hell are you on about conspiracy theory? There are alot of far right nut jobs from America willing to do acts like this Atlanta 96 and Oklahoma being two examples. The fact you are nit picking on a subject like this just sums up why exeweb dont want you thick as shit... blocked as of now

Oh please!

Seldom have I seen a better example of clueless ignorance, Atlanta and Oklahoma were entirely different attacks with differing motivations, the fact that Atlanta was associated with a sporting event is the only obvious correlation but the likelihood of this attack, about which we know next to nothing, being motivated by anything sporting is just too ridiculous, it is a gathering of a lot of people with a low level of general security, my personal view is that the perpetrators of this event would not be a threat to Maggie's funeral or the London Marathon, they are most likely domestic nutbags with no political affiliation, but "most likely" doesn't count for much in the world of law enforcement.

If anyone would care to quote this to expose Angry to the remote possibility of learning something please feel free, he is right though that one of the reasons Exeweb didn't want me was because the new owners were in general "thick as shit", the main one of course was that they were so far up the arse of the Trust and Club Boards that they did Taggy's bidding and removed the one siren voice questioning the direction the Club was going, yes it's true, I am Tring's love child.

Does it matter who carried it out? It was designed to injure and kill innocent people and it did. Pretty lucky that they weren't larger devices or the casualtys would be much higher.

Greenjock wrote:

Does it matter who carried it out? It was designed to injure and kill innocent people and it did. Pretty lucky that they weren't larger devices or the casualtys would be much higher.

exactly.

The fact that no organisation has as yet claimed the bombings in my view points to a very small home grown group.

Greenjock wrote:

Does it matter who carried it out? It was designed to injure and kill innocent people and it did. Pretty lucky that they weren't larger devices or the casualtys would be much higher.

The larger question would be, what they thought they could gain by this action.

The fact that no one appears to have claimed responsibility is par for the course for domestics, difficult for them to stick their heads up without it being picked up by the Homeland Security boys.