The "how many will Watford stick past us" thread

I listened to this bugger this afternoon.

[url=]Pilgrims Podcast[/url]

Twas well worth it.

We cab beat Watford FFS!

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COYG!

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Tbh we tend to up our game specially against the bigger sides wouldn’t surprise me we fluke a win specially at home or get somethink from the game …I’d be more worried about the mid week trip to norwich after

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Repeat Portsmouth smash and grab 1-0 will do nicely. Already seen Punchdrunk lamenting his heart out on The Heralds X feed that we'll leak four and be doomed before new year hic hic

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ROONEY!

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Bundu

Posts : 6029 Join date : 2015-07-08

Another big club a full house also on Sky also crowd will be up for it demport end help sucking the ball in the net
I think we’re fluke it …us 1-0

Fecking unbelievable! lol!

One thing you can't fault Argyle for is their endurance when all looks lost, game looked all over with Watford [albeit conceding a lot of ground in the second half, maybe the equaliser served them right] in control and only a couple of long range efforts and a deflected shot from Wright to show for a lot of possession. Two bits of premier league quality from Gray saved the day for Argyle, think we must sign him on. Puzzling question is why Argyle always seem to start so slowly, couldn't lay a glove on Watford for the first 20 minutes. Great point in the end though.

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El-hadli hasn't been on international duty and hasn't been a regular starter-didn't get on the pitch today even though Whittaker was carrying an injury.

Is he another signing who is now deemed to be not good enough?

Grovehill wrote:: El-hadli hasn't been on international duty and hasn't been a regular starter-didn't get on the pitch today even though Whittaker was carrying an injury.

Is he another signing who is now deemed to be not good enough?

Who would be the other signings to be "deemed not good enough"? Can only think of Pallson and Ogbeta who were both also on the bench tonight.

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Greenskin wrote:

Grovehill wrote:: El-hadli hasn't been on international duty and hasn't been a regular starter-didn't get on the pitch today even though Whittaker was carrying an injury.

Is he another signing who is now deemed to be not good enough?

Who would be the other signings to be "deemed not good enough"? Can only think of Pallson and Ogbeta who were both also on the bench tonight.

Tijani - I know he's injured but he's looked terrible in the opening match and has barely played since.

Poor performance last night, saved by two great finishes by Gray. Don't know how much in wages he's costing us, but he might be the only thing that gives us a chance of staying up this season.

Two fabulous goals, worth his wage just for those.

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COYG!

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Greenskin wrote:

Grovehill wrote:: El-hadli hasn't been on international duty and hasn't been a regular starter-didn't get on the pitch today even though Whittaker was carrying an injury.

Is he another signing who is now deemed to be not good enough?

Who would be the other signings to be "deemed not good enough"? Can only think of Pallson and Ogbeta who were both also on the bench tonight.

With Tijani that makes half the summer signings (and most of the money) aren't better than what we had before. Either Rooney's judgement or that of the much vaunted "recruitment team" is letting the Club down. A 1 in 8 (Sooch) success rate isn't good enough!

Grovehill wrote:

Greenskin wrote:

Grovehill wrote:: El-hadli hasn't been on international duty and hasn't been a regular starter-didn't get on the pitch today even though Whittaker was carrying an injury.

Is he another signing who is now deemed to be not good enough?

Who would be the other signings to be "deemed not good enough"? Can only think of Pallson and Ogbeta who were both also on the bench tonight.

With Tijani that makes half the summer signings (and most of the money) aren't better than what we had before. Either Rooney's judgement or that of the much vaunted "recruitment team" is letting the Club down. A 1 in 8 (Sooch) success rate isn't good enough!

I certainly wouldn't say that Gray and Cissoko have been failures, Obafemi has had his moments too.

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Greenskin wrote:

Grovehill wrote:

Greenskin wrote:

Grovehill wrote:: El-hadli hasn't been on international duty and hasn't been a regular starter-didn't get on the pitch today even though Whittaker was carrying an injury.

Is he another signing who is now deemed to be not good enough?

Who would be the other signings to be "deemed not good enough"? Can only think of Pallson and Ogbeta who were both also on the bench tonight.

With Tijani that makes half the summer signings (and most of the money) aren't better than what we had before. Either Rooney's judgement or that of the much vaunted "recruitment team" is letting the Club down. A 1 in 8 (Sooch) success rate isn't good enough!

I certainly wouldn't say that Gray and Cissoko have been failures, Obafemi has had his moments too.

But they are short term (and costly I expect)signings, another January like last season and we will be in the poo again.

My concern is that with a limited budget the money is either going on short term quick fixes like Cissoko and Grey or giving contracts to League 1 players.

We won't make any progress if all we have left at the end of every season is a squad no better than Exeter's!

Grovehill wrote:

Greenskin wrote:

Grovehill wrote:

Greenskin wrote:

Grovehill wrote:: El-hadli hasn't been on international duty and hasn't been a regular starter-didn't get on the pitch today even though Whittaker was carrying an injury.

Is he another signing who is now deemed to be not good enough?

Who would be the other signings to be "deemed not good enough"? Can only think of Pallson and Ogbeta who were both also on the bench tonight.

With Tijani that makes half the summer signings (and most of the money) aren't better than what we had before. Either Rooney's judgement or that of the much vaunted "recruitment team" is letting the Club down. A 1 in 8 (Sooch) success rate isn't good enough!

I certainly wouldn't say that Gray and Cissoko have been failures, Obafemi has had his moments too.

But they are short term (and costly I expect)signings, another January like last season and we will be in the poo again.

My concern is that with a limited budget the money is either going on short term quick fixes like Cissoko and Grey or giving contracts to League 1 players.

We won't make any progress if all we have left at the end of every season is a squad no better than Exeter's!

Seems a bit of a contradiction to say that Cissoko and Gray were costly signings and then state that the budget is limited but whatever. I actually agree with your last sentence but what do you propose is to be done about it? If the budget is indeed limited [and most Argyle fans are under no illusions on that score] then quick fixes and bargain bucket signings who may just make the grade are always going to be the MO. It's been that way since the early 1960's-why do you think that in the 22 seasons spent in the second tier since 1961 Argyle's average position has been 16th? Plain truth is that managers and recruitment teams are always going to be up against it unless a major investor can be found who can compete with some of the wealthy clubs in the division. Would Pulis, Holloway and Schumacher have left if they thought that the club had a genuine chance of making progress? You get what you pay for ultimately and wouldn't hold my breath about that changing to any great degree in January.

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The recruitment model is failing-for every Szucs or Gibson we get we get half a dozen Ogbetas and Waines. Even Mumba and Whittaker sometimes struggle to look worth the money we paid.

My fear is that while we are trying to build a team, more nuggets like Cooper will get fed up waiting for success or the owner will say we need to sell to finance the Brickfields vanity project.

We kept being told that "analytics" is the bees knees of recruitment but so far it's given us one shit manager, another questionable managerial appointment and lots of very average players. The next change of Manager (I'm guessing before the end of the season) needs to coincide with scrapping the Director of Football bollocks and a recruitment process that actually involves watching players playing several games before we get the contracts out!

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Didn't go to this one. But it's clear we were second best yet again for most of the game. Looked on the Watford forum to see the usual comments that Argo are terrible and by far the worst team they have played this season. All forums of teams we've played this season have said pretty much the same. Until hallett does the right thing and sells up and we get a proper owner we will remain shite. Changing the manager may help slightly but probably not enough to prevent at best another final day must win situation. But thank god for Gray - he must be offered a contract until the end of the season.

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Freathy wrote:: Didn't go to this one. But it's clear we were second best yet again for most of the game. Looked on the Watford forum to see the usual comments that Argo are terrible and by far the worst team they have played this season. All forums of teams we've played this season have said pretty much the same. Until hallett does the right thing and sells up and we get a proper owner we will remain shite. Changing the manager may help slightly but probably not enough to prevent at best another final day must win situation. But thank god for Gray - he must be offered a contract until the end of the season.

Don't want to knock Simon as he's done wonders for us but it exposes a fact that a single chair or owner controlling a large majority isn't always the best camp to be in, even if they are incredibly wealthy, which Simon isn't as all his money is borrowed or secured against. The club would have been in a much more stable and financially astute condition if James Brent was still on board. Obviously an ideal scenario would have been a 49%/51% split between Hallett and Brent. Hallett would still run day to day things and still have financial input but also have access the James Brent's financial clout and astute business accumen.
League one we were a cod in the Irish sea. Championship we are a stickleback in the Atlantic

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Fancy us to not get beat too heavily tonight, what more can we realistically hope for? A couple corners would be nice I suppose. Letsby Avenue ...
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Wrong thread but you get the gist lol

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Les Miserable wrote:: Fancy us to not get beat too heavily tonight, what more can we realistically hope for? A couple corners would be nice I suppose. Letsby Avenue ...
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lol

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