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Interesting that Chris Whitty and Patrick Valance have "escaped" so far

Further interesting that both were referred to by christian names multiple times where as Johnson and Hancock by surname only
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If only hindsight was a criminal matter.
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PostSubject: Re: Chinese Virus May Have Infected Hundreds   Chinese Virus May Have Infected Hundreds - Page 13 EmptyWed May 26, 2021 12:53 pm

Mr Cummings said it was" obvious" in retrospect that the UK should have locked down in the first week of March at the latest - and it was a "huge failure" on his part not to alert the prime minister.
"I bitterly regret that I didn't hit the emergency panic button earlier then I did. In retrospect there's no doubt I was wrong not to."

Prison van imminent for Cummings?
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Dominic cummings comes accross as a jilted ex who cant accept its over. I take what he says with a pinch of salt like i did with his crazy reasons for breaking the curfew he helped set up last year when he was blind yet could drive to the north
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I can only conclude that Hancocks wife has turned down Dom at some point.....
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This reminds me of Jack Lemmon's character in "The China Syndrome"

Lemmon is spilling his guts as to the lethal danger of the Nuclear plant whilst locking himself in the control room to the extent they send in a kill squad to silence him before it all spills out

Substitute Cummings for Lemmon....but with no one to silence him.
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PostSubject: Re: Chinese Virus May Have Infected Hundreds   Chinese Virus May Have Infected Hundreds - Page 13 EmptyWed May 26, 2021 2:40 pm

Savage. Brutal. Devastating.

Bingham Valance Whitty Sunak huge praise clearly all 8/10 plus

Hancock 0/10  Corporate manslaughter charges no question
Johnson 1/10
Cabinet Secretary Stevens 2/10
Deputy Cabinet Secretary 2/10
Cummings takes huge credit for accepting equal blame 2/10

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Just utterly criminal behaviour by all those at the top. I'll leave it there because like others I'm sickened by the deaths on Johnsons lying shoulders.

The final stage at 3.05pm is potentially worse than the previous 3 now concluded.
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PostSubject: Re: Chinese Virus May Have Infected Hundreds   Chinese Virus May Have Infected Hundreds - Page 13 EmptyWed May 26, 2021 3:36 pm

Boom....the end of Johnson who will now need to resign.

Starmer had him bang to rights all along at the despatch box

The BBC quote from Kunessbourg was accurate but the Sunday Times quote of over 80's only dying wasnt

Bye bye Boris....

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PostSubject: Re: Chinese Virus May Have Infected Hundreds   Chinese Virus May Have Infected Hundreds - Page 13 EmptyWed May 26, 2021 3:58 pm

Bojo yet again is going nowhere. Cummings says he did, Bojo says he didn't. All the shit handling of the pandemic especially in the early stages will all come out in the inquiry, lots of hand wringing will commence, many apologies and Lord Boris Johnson (Peerage nailed on as it goes with the job) will lie back on a beach in Mustique sipping a Mohito whilst he counts his wealth from all his directorships he picked up after leaving number ten. This will all come to pass in about three years time.
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The end is near. Starmer can now legitimately go after him next Wednesday at PMQs.

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MP to Cummings

"Is the Prime Minister fit to get the UK through this pandemic

Cummings

"NO"

Utterly brutal, an absolutely awful day for the Government that has been completely disastrous
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Groan.... once again you diminish your argument by flagging up Kevin Maguire of the daily Thicky-thick. That excuse for a newspaper has, without fail, backed Labour since 1945. Fresh in my memory was the time the owner of a coffee bar I frequented, holding up a copy that someone had left behind and saying, "people pay good money for this rag only for it to try and indoctrinate you with it's ever-failing socialist rubbish - they even have the nerve to tell you where to mark your bleeding "X".


Harve, I presume you watched Daily Politics ? Cummimgs may well have said "we should have locked down sooner" but that was contrary to 'World health Organization' established pandemic policy at the time. In short, Cummings was himself, out-of-step with that renowned body. Also mentioned was that some of Cumming's claimed lacked written proof therefore this could lead to claims of vindictiveness on his part. The reality is that Johnson is a complete fool for allowing his girlfriend to get anywhere near government.
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Amazing this bloke Cummings was once reviled by Tory and Labour MP’s and Harve, now this person who blatantly lied about breaking lockdown rules we are supposed to believe!!!

The interview with Lisa Nandy this morning was quite telling, after repeated questioning she couldn’t say what the Labour Party stood for but she was doing her best to swing the interview to the Boris and Cummings spat and that’s labour’s problem concentrating on personal attacks rather than stating policies, I’ll never ever vote Labour again
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Amazing this bloke Cummings was once reviled by Tory and Labour MP’s and Harve, now this person who blatantly lied about breaking lockdown rules we are supposed to believe!!!

The interview with Lisa Nandy this morning was quite telling, after repeated questioning she couldn’t say what the Labour Party stood for but she was doing her best to swing the interview to the Boris and Cummings spat and that’s labour’s problem concentrating on personal attacks rather than outlying policies, I’ll never ever vote Labour again

exactly which is why its funny that a guy the left wanted hanged last year and blame him solely for brexit, winning boris the elections and lockdown rules is suddenly their hero cause hes acting like a jilted ex.
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Regardless of what people think of Cummings, this is unprecedented stuff from someone who was as close to Bozo as anyone gets to any PM. Some of this WILL stick to Bozo. He won't be PM as long as everyone thinks.
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Regardless of what people think of Cummings, this is unprecedented stuff from someone who was as close to Bozo as anyone gets to any PM.  Some of this WILL stick to Bozo.  He won't be PM as long as everyone thinks.

Indeed Freathy and there was a lot of jockeying yesterday from a very cool and measured Dominic Cummings who not once got rattled and no matter what we think of him was there 7 hours being incredibly open

I thought Greg Clark and all the MP's missed one obvious question over Durham and Barnard Castle (Clark did revisit the subject and skirted around the driving issue but never asked the direct question over eyesight namely was it true)

Gove was virtually untouched and Sunak and Rabb hugely praised and this alone scares the shit out of the Tory party because of their reasoning that Cummings would automatically slaughter everyone. He didn't and it hasn't gone unnoticed by all the political commentators

The onslaught all aimed at the inept incompetent fool at the top and the hapless Hancock. We know residents were sent back to care homes untested and subsequently 30,000 died that was no secret and in the previous briefing papers..... That alone puts Johnson and Hancock in the dock at some point in the future but hearing Cummings wheel out the finer details would have brought audible gasps from everyone

The fact Cummings took enormous blame himself was admirable and surprising and as John Craig said late last night the devastation to a sitting prime minister was unprecedented.

The Tory boys on here will goal post move and all their childish retorts will surface but frankly that was simply awful yesterday. People died by their 1000's and at one point Cummings described how they were being distracted by a feckin dog of Symonds and Johnson

There must be accountability and I think Jon Ashworth has brought an urgent question today in the HOC over both Hancock and the enquiry

Overall an appalling day for all Tories and every single one of them should be hanging their heads in utter shame including those on here.
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Fuvking hell absolutely utterly brutal from the silent assassin Susannah Reid on GMB
As they pointed out Cummings blamed himself equally and thats what is frankly making the Government shit themselves
The call for that Public Enquiry to start now is all over twitter and the entire media. You can run Johnson but you cant hide for ever fella
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One minute the whole country vilifies Cummings over Barnard Castle-gate. Now everyone is hanging on his every word!  laugh


Here's another one who ignores a question....



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Talking to a mate of mine just now and he has heard that the reason Cummings trip to the castle was not really followed up was because he'd also been up to see Prince Charles at Balmoral who is close friends with Cummings wife. Whether true or not I wouldn't know but it wouldn't shock you would it?
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Hancock completely evasive as expected at press conference
Likewise in the HOC. Specific questions go unanswered broad responses given. Appalling.

On an aside the Indian Variant cases doubling from last week. Further words superfluous as to which dithering prick let it into the Country.
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In previous years, not that long ago, lying to the country, lying to Parliament, getting massive contracts for your mates and generally being incompetent were all causes for resignations, or 'victims' of a cabinet reshuffle.

But politics doesn't work like that any more, least as far as the Tories are concerned. You don't need to be competent or have any sort of expertise, you just have be a supporter of the leader. What other explanation is there for a cabinet that still contains Williamson, who has shown on many occasions that he is totally out of his depth. Patel, found guilty of breaking the ministerial code but still in the job as her boss decided that didn't matter. Jenrick, who saved his mate millions by fiddling the planning regulations, but it was ok, because he didn't think that he did anything wrong.

And now Hancock, who will get away with this because he has the support of the leader. Finally Boris, who lies every day, but later on says he didn't say that, and even if he did it doesn't matter, because people should be grateful for all the important things that he does.

It has been a complete shambles, there is little doubt that people have died because of the Government's actions, or lack of as the case may be, saved only by the vaccinations, which, thank goodness, has been taken out of the hands of the private sector and given to the NHS.

Of course, Johnson should go, Hancock should be already gone, Patel, Williamson etc etc the list goes on.

Will they? Of course not. The only safe job these days is in Boris's cabinet.
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Politicians lie,bears shit in the woods,as simple as that. Never voted Tory in my life until the last election and if Corbyn had stuck to his true beliefs which essentially were anti EU in the mould of people like Foot,Shore and his true hero Tony Benn,then i may even have taken a risk and voted for him. Even though i mostly voted Labour in the past,there was no illusion about the ability of leaders like Wilson and Blair to lie,dissemble and scheme with the best of them-if you're looking for confirmation that corruption never was confined to one party,then maybe remembering that Robert Maxwell was a Labour MP would be a good starting point. Cummins comes across as an embittered,squealing little nark-even if there is a good deal of substance in what he says,the vast majority of the public will remember his flagrant abuse of rules that 99% of people were sacrificing much to adhere to and why his critical view on government policy did not lead to a voluntary and principled resignation on his part rather than his eventual somewhat undignified demise. Far more potential damage to Johnson will come from a continuation of the ultra cautious approach to lifting covid restrictions in view of the success of the vaccination programme,not from the ramblings of a discredited maverick.
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So whats it to be Johnson and Hancock ??

Corporate Manslaughter or Murder ?? Criminal negligence. No question. Period.

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Not all the Tories were stupid. This was from Rory Stewart who I particulary liked for my own reasons in the earlier leadership election. The date was 9th March 2020 following Johnson missing yet another Cobra meeting "No justification for half hearted measures"

These deaths didn't need to occur. Exactly what Cummings told all under oath

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Lifted.....

"Johnson does not want to lose Hancock on the basis that he lied because that would suggest that he thought there was something wrong with lying. He does not want to lose him on the basis of unnecessary lost lives because he is responsible for far more than Hancock ever was"

Boris Johnson caught between a rock and a hard place.
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