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Grovehill wrote:
Angry wrote:
stevenage my stay up after all if they are thrown out which still allow the conference to promote two

????????

Macc down or out leaves 1 vacancy ?

true send them down aswell then


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Forest Green chief: 'Tranmere plan designed specifically for them to avoid drop

Tranmere’s alternative proposal for ending the English Football League season has been designed “specifically” to help them avoid relegation, according to the chairman of League Two club Forest Green.
EFL clubs had until 2pm on Tuesday to submit their own plans for how to cut short the 2019-20 campaign, with the league itself in favour of a framework including promotion, relegation, a four-team play-off competition and a final table based on an unweighted points-per-game system.

Tranmere chairman Mark Palios has put forward an alternative where a ‘margin for error’ is built into the points-per-game system, and only clubs who still occupy a promotion or relegation place after that has been factored in should go up or down.

The margin of error would open up the opportunity for more teams to compete in an expanded play-offs too, if they wished to.

Palios told the PA news agency on Monday that his club’s plan “reflects the wishes of the majority of clubs” but Dale Vince, the chairman of Forest Green, questioned whether that was the case.

“Surprised to read this. Tranmere’s proposal is complex and looks designed specifically for their circumstances – to avoid relegation. I see no equity or logic in it,” he wrote on Twitter.

Tranmere are currently in 21st place in League One and would be relegated if unweighted PPG was applied.

An EFL spokesman said: “The EFL Board has today received a number of submissions from EFL clubs in respect of proposed amendments to EFL regulations. Changes are required in order to determine what will happen in the event season 2019/20 is curtailed in any EFL division.

As a result of a number of competing proposals, these will now be discussed at tomorrow’s EFL Board meeting, with a further update to follow.”

Clubs will vote for their favoured framework at a meeting next Monday, and after that each division is set to vote on whether to play on or end the season using the agreed framework.

The Championship is set to play on, with a provisional restart date of June 20 set at the weekend, albeit to the surprise of some second-tier clubs. Nevertheless, it would use the same framework if the competition restarted but was subsequently forced to stop again.

League One sides are undecided on how to proceed, while League Two clubs have indicated a desire to end the season but wanted to do so with the threat of relegation removed.
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A football club acting selfishly? How unusual.

To be fair that's just what every L2 club has done. Promotion or a chance of it for 7 clubs but no one gets relegated.
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I really don't think we will go up automatically. If there is a framework that includes an expanded play-offs that seems the most likely scenario.
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I really don't think we will go up automatically.  If there is a framework that includes an expanded play-offs that seems the most likely scenario.

Its getting ridiculous the amount of games and competitions they want to cram in a short window its not going to be possible which is why again the EFL have to take a stand and stop pandering to clubs like peterborough and set things in stone.


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Freathy wrote:
I really don't think we will go up automatically.  If there is a framework that includes an expanded play-offs that seems the most likely scenario.

Why do you consistently ignore what the league 2 clubs have said they want to happen?  An expanded play-off scenario isn't currently among any of the options clubs will vote on.  In this and other areas, you seem to ignore the reality of the situation all of the time.
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Expanded playoffs would involve even more games played, more players tested, more resources drained from cash strapped clubs, it's ludicrous.
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Rickler wrote:
Freathy wrote:
I really don't think we will go up automatically.  If there is a framework that includes an expanded play-offs that seems the most likely scenario.

Why do you consistently ignore what the league 2 clubs have said they want to happen?  An expanded play-off scenario isn't currently among any of the options clubs will vote on.  In this and other areas, you seem to ignore the reality of the situation all of the time.


Because the L2 clubs have voted purely for what suits them-a few winners and no losers (no relegation)

If the other Leagues vote the same way, it'll be a total clusterfuck-10 EFL clubs saying they should be promoted but none should be relegated!
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MATTHEW EDWARDS

Nicky Maynard – Maynard was quite the coup when he signed for Mansfield Town at the beginning of the season. He joined Cardiff City for £2.8 million back in 2012 and at 33 years old, he still knows where the net is. He scored 20 goals for Bury in the 2018/19 season and continued that form this campaign. Maynard was on 14 goals before the season was ended in early March, well on his way to reaching the 20 goal mark again. It is very likely that some League One clubs will be interested in signing Maynard, who has been offered a contract extension by The Stags. It certainly wouldn’t be a surprise if his former Bury boss, Ryan Lowe tries to lure him to Plymouth following their promotion to League One this season.
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Grovehill wrote:
Rickler wrote:
Freathy wrote:
I really don't think we will go up automatically.  If there is a framework that includes an expanded play-offs that seems the most likely scenario.

Why do you consistently ignore what the league 2 clubs have said they want to happen?  An expanded play-off scenario isn't currently among any of the options clubs will vote on.  In this and other areas, you seem to ignore the reality of the situation all of the time.


Because the L2 clubs have voted purely for what suits them-a few winners and no losers (no relegation)

If the other Leagues vote the same way, it'll be a total clusterfuck-10 EFL clubs saying they should be promoted but none should be relegated!

It was only league 2 that signaled they intend to vote for no relegation.  That is because relegation from league 2 means you are out of the EFL.

What nobody 'voted' for is 'expanded' play-offs.  Therefore...  It's unlikely to be foisted on them by the EFL.
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Tgwu wrote:
MATTHEW EDWARDS

Nicky Maynard – Maynard was quite the coup when he signed for Mansfield Town at the beginning of the season. He joined Cardiff City for £2.8 million back in 2012 and at 33 years old, he still knows where the net is. He scored 20 goals for Bury in the 2018/19 season and continued that form this campaign. Maynard was on 14 goals before the season was ended in early March, well on his way to reaching the 20 goal mark again. It is very likely that some League One clubs will be interested in signing Maynard, who has been offered a contract extension by The Stags. It certainly wouldn’t be a surprise if his former Bury boss, Ryan Lowe tries to lure him to Plymouth following their promotion to League One this season.


Anyone else seen the article in today's WMN?

It points out that most L1 & L2 Clubs are losing 6 or 7 figure sums on a regular basis but seem reluctant to do anything about it, often citing "fan pressure" as the reason to keep on spending beyond their means.

I think any attempt by PAFC to sign Maynard will be in that category.

Argyle even before Covid were trading at a loss and the owner has made it clear this needs to change. Lets not demand instant success through expensive signings, but steady improvement based on developing players.
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Grovehill wrote:
Tgwu wrote:
MATTHEW EDWARDS

Nicky Maynard – Maynard was quite the coup when he signed for Mansfield Town at the beginning of the season. He joined Cardiff City for £2.8 million back in 2012 and at 33 years old, he still knows where the net is. He scored 20 goals for Bury in the 2018/19 season and continued that form this campaign. Maynard was on 14 goals before the season was ended in early March, well on his way to reaching the 20 goal mark again. It is very likely that some League One clubs will be interested in signing Maynard, who has been offered a contract extension by The Stags. It certainly wouldn’t be a surprise if his former Bury boss, Ryan Lowe tries to lure him to Plymouth following their promotion to League One this season.


Anyone else seen the article in today's WMN?

It points out that most L1 & L2 Clubs are losing 6 or 7 figure sums on a regular basis but seem reluctant to do anything about it, often citing "fan pressure" as the reason to keep on spending beyond their means.

I think any attempt by PAFC to sign Maynard will be in that category.

Argyle even before Covid were trading at a loss and the owner has made it clear this needs to change. Lets not demand instant success through expensive signings, but steady improvement based on developing players.

I agree with some of what you say, picking at the carcasses of once superior but fallen clubs is something we have exploited before and something I would not like, nor to be associated with in future.
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And I also dont think it's a way to create a sustainable future either.
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I'd love us to sign Nicky Maynard.
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The Sun football reporter twitter

Tom Gribble
What’s the Argyle news Al?

Alan Nixon
Out of contract lads been warned there won’t be rises up a level. Cash is right all over.
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Tgwu wrote:
The Sun football reporter twitter

Tom Gribble
What’s the Argyle news Al?

Alan Nixon
Out of contract lads been warned there won’t be rises up a level. Cash is right all over.

roughly translated anyone offered a new cntract wont be getting a pay rise cause we are strapped for cash?
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But will they receive their promotion bonus?
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Tgwu wrote:
But will they receive their promotion bonus?

I'd imagine they'll get those but contracts for the future clearly are going to be very different probably for every club
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Earwegoagain wrote:
I'd love us to sign Nicky Maynard.
Knocking on 35 years old though and on about three and a half grand a week.
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James Maybrick wrote:
Earwegoagain wrote:
I'd love us to sign Nicky Maynard.
Knocking on 35 years old though and on about three and a half grand a week.

Still scored sixteen goals in thirty odd matches.
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Earwegoagain wrote:
James Maybrick wrote:
Earwegoagain wrote:
I'd love us to sign Nicky Maynard.
Knocking on 35 years old though and on about three and a half grand a week.

Still scored sixteen goals in thirty odd matches.


Owner wants the Club to stop losing money. Paying a 35 year old nearly 10% of the proposed salary cap isn't the way to do it.

The football under Luggy may not have been good to watch, but it was cost effective.

Crikey, have I just praised Luggy?
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Earwegoagain wrote:
James Maybrick wrote:
Earwegoagain wrote:
I'd love us to sign Nicky Maynard.
Knocking on 35 years old though and on about three and a half grand a week.

Still scored sixteen goals in thirty odd matches.
Can't argue with the stat but asking that again of a veteran striker landing at a new club is a very great ask. If he doesn't click then it's an expensive mistake. Rather see the cash equivalent invested in the academy to be honest.
Should we land Maynard or any player in their twilight years for that matter, then what sort of signal is that sending out to any youngsters trying to break out of the academy?
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Grovehill wrote:
Earwegoagain wrote:
James Maybrick wrote:
Earwegoagain wrote:
I'd love us to sign Nicky Maynard.
Knocking on 35 years old though and on about three and a half grand a week.

Still scored sixteen goals in thirty odd matches.


Owner wants the Club to stop losing money. Paying a 35 year old nearly 10% of the proposed salary cap isn't the way to do it.

The football under Luggy may not have been good to watch, but it was cost effective.

Crikey, have I just praised Luggy?

But the profit from the prawn sarnie Buffett could pay for the wages of at least five Nicky Maynards shoerly it's a no brainier?
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Grovehill wrote:
Earwegoagain wrote:
James Maybrick wrote:
Earwegoagain wrote:
I'd love us to sign Nicky Maynard.
Knocking on 35 years old though and on about three and a half grand a week.

Still scored sixteen goals in thirty odd matches.


Owner wants the Club to stop losing money. Paying a 35 year old nearly 10% of the proposed salary cap isn't the way to do it.

I thought he was 33, and he be lining up with the players he played with at Bury
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He’s a good player and probably still good enough to get 15+ in league 1 next year. I’d be surprised if we signed him though in the current climate.
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