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PostSubject: Cashless Plan   Cashless Plan EmptyTue Jan 14, 2020 9:58 am

HOME Park will take another step toward becoming a cashless stadium when Mansfield Town visit in Sky Bet League Two this weekend.

In order to improve the customer experience in our brand-new (refurnished)Mayflower Grandstand, we are trialling cashless payments at the food and beverage kiosks located in the upper tier of the Mayflower Grandstand. Payment options include chip and pin, contactless, as well as device payment using Android Pay, Apple Pay, etc.

The food and beverage outlets outside the Mayflower stand, in the fan zone area, will continue to accept cash, as well as the rest of the stadium, although it is the club’s intention, all being well, to move all amenities inside Home Park to a cashless system.

The move to cashless amenities has stemmed from Green Army feedback sent to the [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] address, your online hub for sending suggestions and ideas as we strive to continue to improve the match-day experience at the Theatre of Greens.

PS I put the refurnished in sunny
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PostSubject: Re: Cashless Plan   Cashless Plan EmptyTue Jan 14, 2020 10:06 am

look how far we've come
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PostSubject: Re: Cashless Plan   Cashless Plan EmptyTue Jan 14, 2020 10:51 am

With the prices Argyle charges for food and drink you need a credit card
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PostSubject: Re: Cashless Plan   Cashless Plan EmptyTue Jan 14, 2020 11:05 am

Tgwu wrote:
With the prices Argyle charges for food and drink you need a credit card

yeap but no matter how many times john lloyd does those pointless surveys that mention this fact the club still charges more for what you would pay anywhere else almost london prices and the quality is so poor also.
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PostSubject: Re: Cashless Plan   Cashless Plan EmptyTue Jan 14, 2020 11:59 am

Is the club in control of the catering now or is it still leased to a third party?
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PostSubject: Re: Cashless Plan   Cashless Plan EmptyTue Jan 14, 2020 12:52 pm

I think the club, but why they did not build their own catering facilities  behind the main stand  up against the fence Evil or Very Mad
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PostSubject: Re: Cashless Plan   Cashless Plan EmptyTue Jan 14, 2020 5:01 pm

Tgwu wrote:
With the prices Argyle charges for food and drink you need a credit card

That genuinely made me laugh out loud.
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PostSubject: Re: Cashless Plan   Cashless Plan EmptyTue Jan 14, 2020 5:18 pm

Tgwu wrote:
HOME Park will take another step toward becoming a cashless stadium when Mansfield Town visit in Sky Bet League Two this weekend.

In order to improve the customer experience in our brand-new (refurnished)Mayflower Grandstand, we are trialling cashless payments at the food and beverage kiosks located in the upper tier of the Mayflower Grandstand. Payment options include chip and pin, contactless, as well as device payment using Android Pay, Apple Pay, etc.

The food and beverage outlets outside the Mayflower stand, in the fan zone area, will continue to accept cash, as well as the rest of the stadium, although it is the club’s intention, all being well, to move all amenities inside Home Park to a cashless system.

The move to cashless amenities has stemmed from Green Army feedback sent to the [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] address, your online hub for sending suggestions and ideas as we strive to continue to improve the match-day experience at the Theatre of Greens.

PS I put the refurnished in sunny

The bit in bold is just of load of management speak for, "we really care about our customers as long as we all think along the same lines, if you beg to differ with our much better reasoning then you can go fook yourself with a splintery broom handle." Hallett has probably never had to live on the bread line, I have and many, many Argyle fans do now. When my kids were small' new mortgage, exhorbitant mortgage rates I only went to the football if I could earn some money on top of or besides my actual wages. It's a habit I keep now I will never take a hundred/two hundred quid out of the bank and piss it up it just goes against everything I've practiced. I'm still the same today and believe it or not so are a lot of other people. This week I've been nearly three hundred quid for some firewood and a little bit of fencing which will go straight into my going out and eating and drinking budget. Why the fook would I want to pay it in the bank just so Si can save about a tenth of a penny on bank charges.
The main worry I have over Hallett is that he thinks we are either fine upstanding grandstanders who deserve filter coffee for fifty pence with free refills or we are yobs who deserve to be treated like cattle and be milked for every penny possible whilst we queue in tue rain hoping we can get to the front of the food and drink queue to pay £3.75 for a cardboard cup of Nescafé paid for by a contact less card. He hasn't got a clue about the average fan and more worryingly he won't listen to our real concerns then has the cheek to say that WE want a cashless stadium, I get most people use cards but a lot of us don't. Wise up Si you utter twat.
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PostSubject: Re: Cashless Plan   Cashless Plan EmptyTue Jan 14, 2020 5:38 pm

Ouch....
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PostSubject: Re: Cashless Plan   Cashless Plan EmptyTue Jan 14, 2020 5:46 pm

Personally think it's a good move, cash is old hat.

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PostSubject: Re: Cashless Plan   Cashless Plan EmptyTue Jan 14, 2020 5:51 pm

Earwegoagain wrote:
Tgwu wrote:
HOME Park will take another step toward becoming a cashless stadium when Mansfield Town visit in Sky Bet League Two this weekend.

In order to improve the customer experience in our brand-new (refurnished)Mayflower Grandstand, we are trialling cashless payments at the food and beverage kiosks located in the upper tier of the Mayflower Grandstand. Payment options include chip and pin, contactless, as well as device payment using Android Pay, Apple Pay, etc.

The food and beverage outlets outside the Mayflower stand, in the fan zone area, will continue to accept cash, as well as the rest of the stadium, although it is the club’s intention, all being well, to move all amenities inside Home Park to a cashless system.

The move to cashless amenities has stemmed from Green Army feedback sent to the [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] address, your online hub for sending suggestions and ideas as we strive to continue to improve the match-day experience at the Theatre of Greens.

PS I put the refurnished in sunny

The bit in bold is just of load of management speak for, "we really care about our customers as long as we all think along the same lines, if you beg to differ with our much better reasoning then you can go fook yourself with a splintery broom handle." Hallett has probably never had to live on the bread line, I have and many, many Argyle fans do now. When my kids were small' new mortgage, exhorbitant mortgage rates I only went to the football if I could earn some money on top of or besides my actual wages. It's a habit I keep now I will never take a hundred/two hundred quid out of the bank and piss it up it just goes against everything I've practiced. I'm still the same today and believe it or not so are a lot of other people. This week I've been nearly three hundred quid for some firewood and a little bit of fencing which will go straight into my going out and eating and drinking budget. Why the fook would I want to pay it in the bank just so Si can save about a tenth of a penny on bank charges.
The main worry I have over Hallett is that he thinks we are either fine upstanding grandstanders who deserve filter coffee for fifty pence with free refills or we are yobs who deserve to be treated like cattle and be milked for every penny possible whilst we queue in tue rain hoping we can get to the front of the food and drink queue to pay £3.75 for a cardboard cup of Nescafé paid for by a contact less card. He hasn't got a clue about the average fan and more worryingly he won't listen to our real concerns then has the cheek to say that WE want a cashless stadium, I get most people use cards but a lot of us don't. Wise up Si you utter twat.


...and there's me thinking 'cashless' was being done to speed up the queues everybody is always rightfully complaining about?
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PostSubject: Re: Cashless Plan   Cashless Plan EmptyTue Jan 14, 2020 6:01 pm

Good move imho. I see someone mentioned it on FB and was met with a predicable apoplectic response.

Janners having to cope with anything that remotely resembles 21st century living is met with howls of derision. Very amusing, very predicable, very embarrassing.

NB: In the spirit of parity - one should have added that an option to use cash should always be available for non-card using fans. albino


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PostSubject: Re: Cashless Plan   Cashless Plan EmptyTue Jan 14, 2020 7:09 pm

I know for Plymouth Citybus contactless sales now account for nearly 90% of their on bus ticket sales and I'd hazard a guess that the bulk of the remaining 10% of the cash sales is for passes that cost over £30 so cannot be paid for by card.
London stopped cash on buses years ago, as did Johannesburg/Pretoria. The version of the Oyster card in Joburg doubles up as a prepaid contactless Mastercard that can store both tickets and money.
I know a few clubs around the world who went down the cashless route have introduced their own prepaid card to appeal to anyone who didn't have any other option.
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PostSubject: Re: Cashless Plan   Cashless Plan EmptyTue Jan 14, 2020 7:19 pm

I never take my card (or phone) to a game or anywhere else involving me boozing, hence i have never lost my card or phone despite sometimes having no idea how i got home, cash is much safer IMO.
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PostSubject: Re: Cashless Plan   Cashless Plan EmptyTue Jan 14, 2020 7:23 pm

IF....for example, it was announced that cash would become obsolete in 12 months time, a lot of my mates (who are self employed) would be out of business in the following 12 months. Laughing

The upside of course would be tens of billions in additional revenue to the Treasury.

I am of course being a total hypocrite here because I was only too happy to pay cash (and save a packet) to my builder for an extension that probably didn't get anywhere close to being registered in his book keeping.
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PostSubject: Re: Cashless Plan   Cashless Plan EmptyTue Jan 14, 2020 7:25 pm

Carlisle was cash only in the ground on Saturday, as was Bolton and they would have lost ten fold more sales by accepting cash only opposed to card card only.
People on Saturday and at Bolton were scrapping round between friend trying to raise enough cash to get drinks, it was the same at Bolton.
Bolton I was bloody flabbergasted that it was cash only.
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PostSubject: Re: Cashless Plan   Cashless Plan EmptyTue Jan 14, 2020 7:30 pm

Czarcasm wrote:
IF....for example, it was announced that cash would become obsolete in 12 months time, a lot of my mates (who are self employed) would be out of business in the following 12 months. Laughing

The upside of course would be tens of billions in additional revenue to the Treasury.

I am of course being a total hypocrite here because I was only too happy to pay cash (and save a packet) to my builder for an extension that probably didn't get anywhere close to being registered in his book keeping.

Cash handling costs businesses a lot of money hence why more and more outlets/transport operations/vending machines are now cashless.

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PostSubject: Re: Cashless Plan   Cashless Plan EmptyTue Jan 14, 2020 7:56 pm

Not sure if it still is but a while ago The Kings Head in Bretonside was cash only. Very Happy

Some serious creative accounting happening there foreshore.
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PostSubject: Re: Cashless Plan   Cashless Plan EmptyTue Jan 14, 2020 7:57 pm

Which method costs a business more money though - cash handling or the bank charges for using a debit/credit card.

I suspect in terms of time, cost and just general ease for the business card transactions make way more sense.
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PostSubject: Re: Cashless Plan   Cashless Plan EmptyTue Jan 14, 2020 7:59 pm

I'd still rather go out on the piss with cash in my pocket than pay all night on my card. In that case using the card seems to cost me way more money.
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PostSubject: Re: Cashless Plan   Cashless Plan EmptyTue Jan 14, 2020 8:16 pm

Greenlander wrote:
Which method costs a business more money though - cash handling or the bank charges  for using a debit/credit card.

I suspect in terms of time, cost and just general ease for the business card transactions make way more sense.

Acquirer fees by payment gateways now are a couple of pence. The POS equipment now can cost as little as £19.99 for a basic card terminal that works off your smartphone and up to £89 now for a PC based terminal that syncs with a till point/computer and has both wifi and 4G connectivity and can print receipts.
The basic cheap one that works off a smartphone/Tablet is about the size of a calculator and is more than sufficient for a small business/bar/small shop ect. You can have still have more than one terminal on the account if needs required it, such as in a busy bar.

Banks on the other hand charge a lot to bank change or to give it out for business customers, then it takes ti.e and expense to also get it to and from the bank. It takes more staff hours to cash up. Not 100% on this one too but I'm pretty sure it would lower your business insurance too if no cash other than a small amount of petty cash was ever on the premises.
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PostSubject: Re: Cashless Plan   Cashless Plan EmptyTue Jan 14, 2020 8:33 pm

For a business like Argyle, they'd have to be 100% confident in their systems not failing if they were to implement a stadium-wide cashless system.

I don't think we're quite there yet.
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PostSubject: Re: Cashless Plan   Cashless Plan EmptyTue Jan 14, 2020 9:37 pm

Another thing with Card payments is that it creates data (who bought what, where, when and with what else). That data in itself has worth which the payment companies can flog onto various 'big data' organisations. Not sure if Argyle would see any of that money directly, but it's a contributing factor to why going cashless is seen as cheaper. The money made from flogging the data brings down the cost of the systems used to capture the data.

Cash is of course anonymous.
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PostSubject: Re: Cashless Plan   Cashless Plan EmptyWed Jan 15, 2020 5:54 pm

Rickler wrote:
Earwegoagain wrote:
Tgwu wrote:
HOME Park will take another step toward becoming a cashless stadium when Mansfield Town visit in Sky Bet League Two this weekend.

In order to improve the customer experience in our brand-new (refurnished)Mayflower Grandstand, we are trialling cashless payments at the food and beverage kiosks located in the upper tier of the Mayflower Grandstand. Payment options include chip and pin, contactless, as well as device payment using Android Pay, Apple Pay, etc.

The food and beverage outlets outside the Mayflower stand, in the fan zone area, will continue to accept cash, as well as the rest of the stadium, although it is the club’s intention, all being well, to move all amenities inside Home Park to a cashless system.

The move to cashless amenities has stemmed from Green Army feedback sent to the [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] address, your online hub for sending suggestions and ideas as we strive to continue to improve the match-day experience at the Theatre of Greens.

PS I put the refurnished in sunny

The bit in bold is just of load of management speak for, "we really care about our customers as long as we all think along the same lines, if you beg to differ with our much better reasoning then you can go fook yourself with a splintery broom handle." Hallett has probably never had to live on the bread line, I have and many, many Argyle fans do now. When my kids were small' new mortgage, exhorbitant mortgage rates I only went to the football if I could earn some money on top of or besides my actual wages. It's a habit I keep now I will never take a hundred/two hundred quid out of the bank and piss it up it just goes against everything I've practiced. I'm still the same today and believe it or not so are a lot of other people. This week I've been nearly three hundred quid for some firewood and a little bit of fencing which will go straight into my going out and eating and drinking budget. Why the fook would I want to pay it in the bank just so Si can save about a tenth of a penny on bank charges.
The main worry I have over Hallett is that he thinks we are either fine upstanding grandstanders who deserve filter coffee for fifty pence with free refills or we are yobs who deserve to be treated like cattle and be milked for every penny possible whilst we queue in tue rain hoping we can get to the front of the food and drink queue to pay £3.75 for a cardboard cup of Nescafé paid for by a contact less card. He hasn't got a clue about the average fan and more worryingly he won't listen to our real concerns then has the cheek to say that WE want a cashless stadium, I get most people use cards but a lot of us don't. Wise up Si you utter twat.


...and there's me thinking 'cashless' was being done to speed up the queues everybody is always rightfully complaining about?

Absolute bullshit. When you used to have POTD I could rock up to HP at quarter to three pay and get to my seat before kick off. What pisses me off more is Si stating that its what we want. I clearly remarked that ninety percent wouldn't give a fook but the ten per cent will vote with their feet. Flatters nails the real reason which is data harvesting. Si and Argyle can whistle for my money I refuse to dance to his tune.
As an aside has anyone been in a pub when a horde of students have turned up and all bought their drinks individually with their cards? Quick is what it isn't.
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PostSubject: Re: Cashless Plan   Cashless Plan EmptyWed Jan 15, 2020 6:19 pm

Earwegoagain wrote:
Rickler wrote:
Earwegoagain wrote:
Tgwu wrote:
HOME Park will take another step toward becoming a cashless stadium when Mansfield Town visit in Sky Bet League Two this weekend.

In order to improve the customer experience in our brand-new (refurnished)Mayflower Grandstand, we are trialling cashless payments at the food and beverage kiosks located in the upper tier of the Mayflower Grandstand. Payment options include chip and pin, contactless, as well as device payment using Android Pay, Apple Pay, etc.

The food and beverage outlets outside the Mayflower stand, in the fan zone area, will continue to accept cash, as well as the rest of the stadium, although it is the club’s intention, all being well, to move all amenities inside Home Park to a cashless system.

The move to cashless amenities has stemmed from Green Army feedback sent to the [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] address, your online hub for sending suggestions and ideas as we strive to continue to improve the match-day experience at the Theatre of Greens.

PS I put the refurnished in sunny

The bit in bold is just of load of management speak for, "we really care about our customers as long as we all think along the same lines, if you beg to differ with our much better reasoning then you can go fook yourself with a splintery broom handle." Hallett has probably never had to live on the bread line, I have and many, many Argyle fans do now. When my kids were small' new mortgage, exhorbitant mortgage rates I only went to the football if I could earn some money on top of or besides my actual wages. It's a habit I keep now I will never take a hundred/two hundred quid out of the bank and piss it up it just goes against everything I've practiced. I'm still the same today and believe it or not so are a lot of other people. This week I've been nearly three hundred quid for some firewood and a little bit of fencing which will go straight into my going out and eating and drinking budget. Why the fook would I want to pay it in the bank just so Si can save about a tenth of a penny on bank charges.
The main worry I have over Hallett is that he thinks we are either fine upstanding grandstanders who deserve filter coffee for fifty pence with free refills or we are yobs who deserve to be treated like cattle and be milked for every penny possible whilst we queue in tue rain hoping we can get to the front of the food and drink queue to pay £3.75 for a cardboard cup of Nescafé paid for by a contact less card. He hasn't got a clue about the average fan and more worryingly he won't listen to our real concerns then has the cheek to say that WE want a cashless stadium, I get most people use cards but a lot of us don't. Wise up Si you utter twat.


...and there's me thinking 'cashless' was being done to speed up the queues everybody is always rightfully complaining about?

Absolute bullshit. When you used to have POTD I could rock up to HP at quarter to three pay and get to my seat before kick off. What pisses me off more is Si stating that its what we want. I clearly remarked that ninety percent wouldn't give a fook but the ten per cent will vote with their feet. Flatters nails the real reason which is data harvesting. Si and Argyle can whistle for my money I refuse to dance to his tune.
As an aside has anyone been in a pub when a horde of students have turned up and all bought their drinks individually with their cards? Quick is what it isn't.

You frequent student bars?
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