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PostSubject: EFL Statement on Bolton and Bury   EFL Statement on Bolton and Bury EmptyTue Jul 30, 2019 8:40 am

https://www.efl.com/news/2019/july/efl-statement-bolton-wanderers-and-bury-fc2?fbclid=IwAR2TINavPH6l3VUVxFM80NmgqIqnb3KMK4lLBqQSQvlkFK0MMQPTDWDFz_g
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PostSubject: Re: EFL Statement on Bolton and Bury   EFL Statement on Bolton and Bury EmptyTue Jul 30, 2019 11:12 am

Bury, shafted.

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PostSubject: Re: EFL Statement on Bolton and Bury   EFL Statement on Bolton and Bury EmptyTue Jul 30, 2019 7:45 pm

Could we end up in League 1 after all? Doesn't look like Bury can manage to scrape together 11 players. Where's old Monkey Heed when you need him?
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PostSubject: Re: EFL Statement on Bolton and Bury   EFL Statement on Bolton and Bury EmptyTue Jul 30, 2019 8:20 pm

Earwegoagain wrote:
Could we end up in League 1 after all? Doesn't look like Bury can manage to scrape together 11 players. Where's old Monkey Heed when you need him?

No, 3 teams would be relegated from League 1 (if Bury did fold) and 1 would be relegated from our division.
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PostSubject: Re: EFL Statement on Bolton and Bury   EFL Statement on Bolton and Bury EmptyTue Jul 30, 2019 10:00 pm

Probably as well really, we've earned our place in league 2 and lessons must be learned.
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PostSubject: Re: EFL Statement on Bolton and Bury   EFL Statement on Bolton and Bury EmptyWed Jul 31, 2019 2:01 am

Earwegoagain wrote:
Probably as well really, we've earned our place in league 2 and lessons must be learned.

Anyway we love league 2 don't we.

2500 Janners going focking mentoe at Morecambe, new grounds, the Devon Derby and last but not least, let us never forget this was the division we were in when James looked Chris and Ian in the eye and saved our football club.
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PostSubject: Re: EFL Statement on Bolton and Bury   EFL Statement on Bolton and Bury EmptyWed Jul 31, 2019 3:55 am

Hugh Watt wrote:
Earwegoagain wrote:
Probably as well really, we've earned our place in league 2 and lessons must be learned.

Anyway we love league 2 don't we.

2500 Janners going focking mentoe at Morecambe, new grounds, the Devon Derby and last but not least, let us never forget this was the division we were in when James looked Chris and Ian in the eye and saved our football club.
Jimmy and his followers loved league 2, six of his glorious eight year reign was spent in the basement. geek geek geek
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PostSubject: Re: EFL Statement on Bolton and Bury   EFL Statement on Bolton and Bury EmptyWed Jul 31, 2019 4:19 am

The Bury Chairman has issued a reply this afternoon-

We, as a Club are saddened by recent events from a body who should have the best interest of Clubs as it’s primary objective, clearly this is not the case.

We, as a Club had come through such adversity left from the previous owner and had started to make headway, the majority of rot had been cut out and the atmosphere at our Training Ground was fantastic, where a positive air had started to replace the despondency of the legacy. New players were arriving with an open mind and looking forward to the new season as were our fantastic new staff.


We thought we were finalizing with the EFL on any outstanding matters that needed addressing, they were fully aware that SAG were happy with our progress and upon the lighting replacement being completed ALL matters were concluded and the certificates would be issued the next day. The Council also confirmed this to the EFL so no worries fulfilling fixtures.

Our CVA had been put forward and we had proven to the courts our ability to fund it and it was passed after 5 months of hard work, this closed off the past where creditors would be dealt with by the administrator, or so we thought.

We submitted all that we were asked to by the EFL in the week prior to their “statement” not as they stated, “not submitted.” So as far as we were concerned we were up to date and requested they lift the embargo so we could sign our players as we were running the risk of losing them.

We then received an email explaining they felt it prudent to amend our cash flow/business plan to show a £1.5m loss and they required additional funding, as this was not factual we challenged their assertion as it was based we were advised on “sensitised feel” not facts, we forwarded the facts to qualify our plan and dismiss their “sensitised feel.”

So at this point, we felt all had been covered and we could continue with the upward trajectory we were on, get our players signed and all was good, Bury was on its way.



THEN THE INFAMOUS EFL STATEMENTS

I was advised by the EFL chair that board pressure had been put on her to send out a statement, however, she had the decency to advise me by phone prior, which was and has always been appreciated.

I explained all the matters were covered, we had spoken and agreed in principle the player debt with the PFA and within the CVA, the CVA administrator sent a letter to the EFL confirming all was as it should be and he was happy creditors would be met within it. They had our business plan and to save the matter protracting we sent proof of funds to cover the fictional £1.5m loss, furthermore, they had been contacted by the Council informing them the SAG licences had been cleared.

They still, however, felt it prudent to ignore the facts and send out the incendiary statement for no gain to anybody other than to discredit Bury FC and it’s Board.

The effect of that to our Club has been unrest in players thinking there would be no Club, loss of players, sponsors pulling out and 5 months of hard work being destroyed by them, then you have the subsequent media garbage inciting unrest and the trolls rearing their sorry heads again, all based on ill truths or at best negative spin, for what?

They then contacted Jill Neville late at night to say a further statement was being put out, our Staff and the Club Lawyer tried to contact them to no avail to ask what was their next statement based on as they had everything, it turned out the game would not go ahead?

They contacted us giving us more time, we asked what further could be given, our cash flow was solid, the mythical £1.5m requirement was covered should it ever be needed by an offer letter and they themselves advised “The EFL is aware the £1.5m may not be required it's a worst-case scenario forecast. It may never need to be drawn down on.” And again they were advised the PFA were working with us on a settlement however this was covered by the CVA, so you would assume once again all good.

Then the EFL meeting last night and subsequent statement, where they decided the POF letter of £1.5m was not sufficient they wanted money in the bank to cover the requirement they themselves say is not needed, and let’s not forget, in addition to our positive cash flow, the EFL have withheld payments to the Club of £569,493 including August payment, not the actions of a body there to help, but certainly if released would cover possible eventualities they deem prevalent. They also disputed our agreement with the PFA even though our Lawyer and prominent third parties were privy to this. Still, they postpone the match and again for what gain?

I am unsure at this juncture where Bury go when the body that should be there to help us works against us, however, I felt it important to set the record straight and hope the EFL try to be reasonable.

We, as a Club, promise you that we will challenge this injustice in whatever forum necessary.

Yours sincerely,

Steven D Dale
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PostSubject: Re: EFL Statement on Bolton and Bury   EFL Statement on Bolton and Bury EmptyWed Jul 31, 2019 5:45 am

Tbf the FL are a dinosaur that should be fired root and branch and given new direction but I'm pretty sure Dale is a coont as well. It's a bit like tue Brentorian guard blaming everything bad in Brent's reign on the preceding admin period, shore Dale might have inherited an old shithouse of a club but he was the one not paying staff and players and it's been going on for a while now. I'm sure the FL have another side of the story.
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PostSubject: Re: EFL Statement on Bolton and Bury   EFL Statement on Bolton and Bury EmptyWed Jul 31, 2019 7:09 am

Taken from Bury Fans Forum, canceling season tickets

I'm afraid I also bailed out today.  I purchased in May with a degree of optimism on the strength of the Court being informed that there were three interested parties.  I've hung around for as long as I could but the cancellation of Saturday's match was the final straw.

£10,000 worth of bailing out I believe, just today!
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PostSubject: Re: EFL Statement on Bolton and Bury   EFL Statement on Bolton and Bury EmptyWed Jul 31, 2019 8:10 pm

A realistic appraisal of the situation from David Conn in today's Guardian;

https://www.theguardian.com/football/blog/2019/jul/30/football-league-shows-teeth-bury
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PostSubject: Re: EFL Statement on Bolton and Bury   EFL Statement on Bolton and Bury EmptyThu Aug 01, 2019 8:13 pm

Yes a realistic apraisal. But as usual the EFL are inconsistent, don't think there are many informed footie fans, who think the EFL is fit for purpose.
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PostSubject: Re: EFL Statement on Bolton and Bury   EFL Statement on Bolton and Bury EmptyThu Aug 01, 2019 8:19 pm

akagreengull wrote:
Yes a realistic apraisal. But as usual the EFL are inconsistent, don't think there are many informed footie fans, who think the EFL is fit for purpose.

Wouldn't disagree with your statement. Unfortunately the EFL doesn't seem to have moved forward in terms of either adapting the "fit and proper person" test or the financial scrutiny that would prevent charlatans from 'taking over' Clubs. Both Exeter and Argyle fans may have examples that spring to mind; here's today's article from David Conn:

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2019/jul/31/threat-expulsion-football-league-bury
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