Sunderland

Czarcasm wrote:

It always makes me laugh when people talk about fans going to an away game being “a magnificent effort” or they deserve “huge credit”.

FFS, they’re not donating a kidney. They’re going on a Jollyboys away day. It’s a social occasion FFS.

It's the Aviva country cousin thing, only we're supposed to be a city

The endless 'same old' photos on GOS only serve to give some purpose in life to a largely ageing, or young and needy bunch of sad souls.

'The players applaud the GA' 'The GA applauds the players' 'See you next week................for another going nowhere Avivafest'.

I've gone back as far as 2001 and since then only Bristol Rovers and Torquay have been relegated on 51 points (the Gulls going down on goal difference).

I'd reckon most seasons the safety requirement looks high in early March but as the games countdown so does the total needed. Just as important though is the number of teams below us. If everyone hits form (and we keep losing), for sure, we'll rapidly plummet, but it doesn't normally work like that at the bottom. Even if we do keep losing a quarter of the division still has to overtake us. I agree with SFD's assessment - three wins and a couple of draws.

I've always said will not go down, and we wont. We will kick off a new season as a third division team in a second rate city.

PatDunne wrote:

I've always said will not go down, and we wont. We will kick off a new season as a third division team in a second rate city.

With first rate fans!

Greenlander wrote:

I've gone back as far as 2001 and since then only Bristol Rovers and Torquay have been relegated on 51 points (the Gulls going down on goal difference).

I'd reckon most seasons the safety requirement looks high in early March but as the games countdown so does the total needed. Just as important though is the number of teams below us. If everyone hits form (and we keep losing), for sure, we'll rapidly plummet, but it doesn't normally work like that at the bottom. Even if we do keep losing a quarter of the division still has to overtake us. I agree with SFD's assessment - three wins and a couple of draws.  

Bang on. 52 will see us safe.

Expect us to lose again on Saturday but should start picking up points again after that.

Looking at the final 11 games, my guess at what may happen.

Luton Town [H] Lose
Shrewsbury Town [H] Win
Fleetwood Town [A] Draw
Bristol Rovers [H] Win
Blackpool [A] Lose
Charlton's Athletic [H] Win
Doncaster Rovers [A] Lose
Gillingham [A] Draw
Barnsley [H] Draw
Accrington Stanley [A] Win
Scunthorpe United [H] Win

VillageGreen wrote:

Looking at the final 11 games, my guess at what may happen.

Luton Town [H] Lose
Shrewsbury Town [H] Win
Fleetwood Town [A] Draw
Bristol Rovers [H] Win
Blackpool [A] Lose
Charlton's Athletic [H] Win
Doncaster Rovers [A] Lose
Gillingham [A] Draw
Barnsley [H] Draw
Accrington Stanley [A] Win
Scunthorpe United [H] Win

My guess would be this...…

Luton Town [H] Lose
Shrewsbury Town [H] Draw
Fleetwood Town [A] Win
Bristol Rovers [H] Win
Blackpool [A] Draw
Charlton's Athletic [H] Lose
Doncaster Rovers [A] Lose
Gillingham [A] Draw
Barnsley [H] Lose
Accrington Stanley [A] Draw
Scunthorpe United [H] Win

That would give us 53 points and hopefully safety.

I think Rovers will beat us but well pick up a win against either Blackpool, Charlton or Donny.

Luton Town [H] Lose
Shrewsbury Town [H] win
Fleetwood Town [A] draw
Bristol Rovers [H] Win
Blackpool [A] Draw
Charlton's Athletic [H] Lose
Doncaster Rovers [A] win
Gillingham [A] Draw
Barnsley [H] Lose
Accrington Stanley [A] win
Scunthorpe United [H] Win

Home - 2 wins, 2 draws, 2 defeats
Away - 1 win, 1 draw, 3 defeats.

Should be just enough.

(As I write now, if things did get tight and we needed the points I'm confident that we'd beat Accrington and Scunthorpe in our last two games. Though if it comes to pass then I reserve the right to completely flip, be nervous as hell and convinced we're going down.

Earwegoagain wrote:

I think Rovers will beat us but well pick up a win against either Blackpool, Charlton or Donny.

Rovers could be one of the teams that go on a little run between now and May, the other four being - Oxford, Walsall, Gillingham and Bradford.

The Rovers game will be an interesting one for all reasons, going on the last couple of seasons.

I think Rochdale and AFC are doomed.

Agree with Oxford but I thunk Walsall are doomed, shite goal difference and dropping like a stone.